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« Thread Started on Nov 6, 2009, 6:50am » | |
What do you think is the minimum height requirement for volleyball on the high school level or college.
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« Reply #1 on Nov 6, 2009, 6:59am » | |
I think if your feet touch the ground, you are good to go. ( Da dum) To get a scholarship in men's college volleyball you need to touch about 11'4". To get a full ride, I would guess it would be about 11'8". Just because you can touch 11'6" does not mean you are going to be a great player as there is a lot more to the game. But it is one way in which coaches can narrow the field. So, going back to your question, it is not really a matter of how tall you are, but what you touch. In fact, an edge is given to a player that is 6'5" and touches 11'4" as opposed to the 6'8" goon who can touch 11''4" as it means they jump higher....and as we all know: Players hit as hard as they jump high...Kind of....
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| | Re: Minimum height for volleyball
« Reply #2 on Nov 6, 2009, 9:44am » | |
That's one of the more offensive ideas I've heard on this board.
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« Reply #3 on Nov 6, 2009, 9:47am » | |
I know a guy that is 5'9, among the top 10 best outside hitters in the world at my age (u-19) , was 5th in scorers in the youth world championship this year.
Also check Florian Kilama, 6'0 that plays in France PRO A as Outside hitter and played in France national team too,
Murilo and Giba are just a bit more than 6'2 and don't forget Karch who is 6'2
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| | Re: Minimum height for volleyball
« Reply #4 on Nov 6, 2009, 10:18am » | |
There really should be no real standard as long as the player can make up for a lack of height with leaping ability and a feel for the game.
I once went to a VB clinic where one of the coaches was a guy 5'6" and was a former setter on a D-III team. He played beach volleyball and was demonstrating putting away overpasses. Basically he was reaching as high as some of the 6'4" D-I hitters who were also coaching. Strangely enough he could have been a competent men's D-I hitter.
Certainly at the NIRSA club level there are plenty of hitters in the 5'10" to 6' range.
And to get a scholarship at the NCAA level isn't exactly easy. There are 4.5 equivalent scholarships for each team in D-I or D-II and even some of the stars are only getting partial scholarships.
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« Reply #5 on Nov 6, 2009, 10:49am » | |
Well there are plenty of guys playing D1 that are on partial schlarships that don't touch 11'4" for starters.
To those talking about all those great hitters in the 6 foot range yeah there are, have been, and will be many "undersized" players that are great attackers. The question becomes are they good enough to offset the blocking deficit. I personally believe a team can have one of those types of guys on the floor and do very well. The problem becomes if you have 2 or more then you end up with too many weak blocking rotations and it puts too much pressure on the offense.
If you are looking for ball park numbers I would say most D1 and 2 programs are looking for 6'3"+ at OH and S, 6'5"+ at the middle, and 6'4"+ at the opposite.
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| | Re: Minimum height for volleyball
« Reply #6 on Nov 6, 2009, 5:47pm » | |
Nov 6, 2009, 6:59am, beachdude wrote:| I think if your feet touch the ground, you are good to go. ( Da dum) To get a scholarship in men's college volleyball you need to touch about 11'4". To get a full ride, I would guess it would be about 11'8". Just because you can touch 11'6" does not mean you are going to be a great player as there is a lot more to the game. But it is one way in which coaches can narrow the field. So, going back to your question, it is not really a matter of how tall you are, but what you touch. In fact, an edge is given to a player that is 6'5" and touches 11'4" as opposed to the 6'8" goon who can touch 11''4" as it means they jump higher....and as we all know: Players hit as hard as they jump high...Kind of.... |
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Hey Beachdude - Hector Soto from IPFW late 90's could jump outa the gym but had a noodle for an arm. So your theory about jump high/hit hard is disproved. Conversely, a guy like Mark Presho from UH early 90's couldn't jump over a Discover Card, but had a pretty good arm. Evan Patak currently on Team USA, same thing.
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| | Re: Minimum height for volleyball
« Reply #7 on Nov 7, 2009, 6:07pm » | |
I have to agree with Grandsonofbarcelonabob.
If you're good, then you good. Yes, jumping high and being tall has it's advantages but if you have a bad arm swing, then your height and vertical is useless and insignificant. Insignificant just like your commnet 'Beachdude'.
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« Reply #8 on Nov 7, 2009, 10:24pm » | |
There is no way that the average scholarship player toches 11'8" in D1. The average for OHs at the international level touches about 11'6". I would guess for college it would be around 11'-11'4" maybe. Obviously different by position as well, but wouldnt assume much difference between attackers.
But as previous people said it's all moot if you got terrible technique. Another thing to consider is that some people are able to jump much closer to their max height when hitting due to things such as timing and ability to read location of the set.
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| | Re: Minimum height for volleyball
« Reply #9 on Nov 7, 2009, 10:48pm » | |
Nov 7, 2009, 6:07pm, ibleedgreen wrote:I have to agree with Grandsonofbarcelonabob.
If you're good, then you good. Yes, jumping high and being tall has it's advantages but if you have a bad arm swing, then your height and vertical is useless and insignificant. Insignificant just like your commnet 'Beachdude'. |
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Woah, woah, woah, easy there junior. No need to be dissing on Beachdude. He's a good guy.
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| | Re: Minimum height for volleyball
« Reply #10 on Nov 8, 2009, 4:07pm » | |
Nov 6, 2009, 5:47pm, GrandsonofBarcelonaBob wrote:
Nov 6, 2009, 6:59am, beachdude wrote:| I think if your feet touch the ground, you are good to go. ( Da dum) To get a scholarship in men's college volleyball you need to touch about 11'4". To get a full ride, I would guess it would be about 11'8". Just because you can touch 11'6" does not mean you are going to be a great player as there is a lot more to the game. But it is one way in which coaches can narrow the field. So, going back to your question, it is not really a matter of how tall you are, but what you touch. In fact, an edge is given to a player that is 6'5" and touches 11'4" as opposed to the 6'8" goon who can touch 11''4" as it means they jump higher....and as we all know: Players hit as hard as they jump high...Kind of.... |
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Beachdude is all about the touching.
Can't Touch This (Dum...dum....dum...dum....dum dum....dum dum...):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyGn5Bfllz8&feature=fvw
(Beachdude is the guy in the second row in the dress shirt and tie...note that he misses a couple steps during the breakdown/bridge)
Hey Beachdude - Hector Soto from IPFW late 90's could jump outa the gym but had a noodle for an arm. So your theory about jump high/hit hard is disproved. Conversely, a guy like Mark Presho from UH early 90's couldn't jump over a Discover Card, but had a pretty good arm. Evan Patak currently on Team USA, same thing.
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Mark Presho good arm swing? ok.....
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| | Re: Minimum height for volleyball
« Reply #11 on Nov 8, 2009, 4:28pm » | |
Nov 6, 2009, 6:59am, beachdude wrote:| I think if your feet touch the ground, you are good to go. ( Da dum) To get a scholarship in men's college volleyball you need to touch about 11'4". To get a full ride, I would guess it would be about 11'8". Just because you can touch 11'6" does not mean you are going to be a great player as there is a lot more to the game. But it is one way in which coaches can narrow the field. So, going back to your question, it is not really a matter of how tall you are, but what you touch. In fact, an edge is given to a player that is 6'5" and touches 11'4" as opposed to the 6'8" goon who can touch 11''4" as it means they jump higher....and as we all know: Players hit as hard as they jump high...Kind of.... |
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What a lie... There is no approach jump requirement to receive a DI scholarship. Matt Anderson doesn't even touch 12 feet and he's one of the best jumpers in the game. Being able to hit the ball over 3 feet above the antenna is nice, but it is in no way a requirement.
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| | Re: Minimum height for volleyball
« Reply #12 on Nov 8, 2009, 6:25pm » | |
No such think as a minimum height...on my sons D3 team, all conf OH is 5'7", my son's 6'2" plays OH and was recruited by UCSan Diego and some others...touching 11 feet is great for HS and D3, not bad for some D1 and 2...for top top level D1 you better have some ridiculous hops and skills to be under 6'4" nowadays...btw remember only 30 some odd D1 and D2 mens programs combined too...pretty high level of ball
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| | Re: Minimum height for volleyball
« Reply #13 on Nov 8, 2009, 7:37pm » | |
As the saying goes, you can't teach height. Although there are many shorter players that have the ability to jump out of the gym, it is MUCH more difficult for them to compete at the top level due to their timing having to be more perfect. If a guy has 8 inches on his reach compared to another player, but both touch the same height, the shorter player's room for error is still much greater. That being said, even if the shorter hitter has great timing, they are at a much bigger disadvantage when they are the target for bailout balls. The all-conference hitter on your son's team is a GREAT hitter, but anytime their passing fell apart, his hitting was greatly diminished due to this.
That being said, I think it's safe to say that if you're able to pass and play defense, height is a moot point (although it seems that coaches are working on changing that - wingspan has started to be analyzed a lot more than it had been previously). Rony Gilot from Creole (open level USAV squad) is 5'4 at best, but he plays at that level and has ridiculous fundamentals. Hitters certainly benefit from height, but 5'10 MIVA player of the year Drew Pickering showed that it certainly isn't a necessity!
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| | Re: Minimum height for volleyball
« Reply #14 on Nov 9, 2009, 3:22am » | |
Wow that was a bunch of terrible answers. Thank you volleyballer for finally giving a good answer. I went with Bring Promotions exposure tour this last summer. I watched a coach from Switzerland's D1 Super Liga league walk into the gym, point out the three tallest outside hitters (6'6",6'7",6'7") and watch them the whole time. He didn't even care about the smaller 6'3" and below guys even though they outplayed the bigger guys. Like mentioned before, you can teach all the skills, but you can't teach someone to be tall. Someone asked what does height affect, everything! Shorter people are in the air longer and take longer to get to maximum height. So hitting timing has to be perfect or they can't do a full jump. Blocking, if the other team runs a fast offense, shorter guys have a hard time help blocking in the middle and being able to make it back out to the outside. Reality is, at the highest level height is everything. The only short players out there are radical players who can do things that bigger players struggle with like ball control, tooling, hitting the holes, defense, passing and bringing the energy.
Beach is always a good outlet for the shorties. Height is a little more ambiguous out there....
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