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Post by PurpleisGold on Apr 16, 2010 23:21:35 GMT -5
In light of all that's happened over the last month (i.e. Haili Church VB Tourney, UH vs Alumni Match, current VB Warriors),
I had wanted to take a stab at all that's presently 'Hawai'i Volleyball'). ;D
Would this be a fair assessment of the 'best' that's now on the islands?
*Of course I realize that others may have their own opinions/commentary so feel free to ammend this list if there is anyone I possibly overlooked...(here goes!)
My predictions for a starting line-up--with reserves--for a full team of eight:
Setter - Kimo Tuyay
Opp - Jonas Umlauft
Outside Hitters - Tony Ching, Michael Thornton
Middle Blockers - Maulia La Barre, Matthew Rawson
Libero - Alfred Reft (or is Brent Asuka back in the islands yet?)
(subjective call, but) Sub - Sean Carney--because of his versatility
Others which were in mind: Brian Zodrow (former UOP star) and Eyal Zimet (AVP Professional).
KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE'RE TALKING THOSE PLAYERS WHO ARE NOW RESIDING IN THE ISLANDS (and ready to play & not after track season), how about the women:
(a modified 5-1 scenario)
Setter - Kanoe K.-Ka'aihue
Outside Hitters - Kanani Danielson, Sarah Mason
Setter/Opp - Robin Ah Mow (who can CRACK the ball with any set)
Middle Blockers - Brittany Hewitt, Tanya F.-Anderson (most impressive considering that this woman is in her mid-thirties and somewhere between 5'8"-5'10" tall)
Libero - Hedder Illustre
Sub (for Kanoe's front row) - Kawena Cubi-Otineru
How did I do? Is this even close?? Any body else want to try???
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Post by PurpleisGold on Apr 17, 2010 0:47:09 GMT -5
In light of all that's happened over the last month (i.e. Haili Church VB Tourney, UH vs Alumni Match, current VB Warriors), I had wanted to take a stab at all that's presently 'Hawai'i Volleyball'). ;D Would this be a fair assessment of the 'best' that's now on the islands? *Of course I realize that others may have their own opinions/commentary so feel free to ammend this list if there is anyone I possibly overlooked...(here goes!) My predictions for a starting line-up--with reserves--for a full team of eight: Setter - Kimo Tuyay Opp - Jonas Umlauft Outside Hitters - Tony Ching, Michael Thornton Middle Blockers - Maulia La Barre, Matthew Rawson Libero - Alfred Reft (or is Brent Asuka back in the islands yet?) (subjective call, but) Sub - Sean Carney--because of his versatility Others which were in mind: Brian Zodrow (former UOP star) and Eyal Zimet (AVP Professional).
KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE'RE TALKING THOSE PLAYERS WHO ARE NOW RESIDING IN THE ISLANDS, how about the women: (a modified 5-1 scenario) Setter - Kanoe K.-Ka'aihue Outside Hitters - Kanani Danielson, Sarah Mason Setter/Opp - Robin Ah Mow (who can CRACK the ball with any set) Middle Blockers - Brittany Hewitt, Tanya F.-Anderson (most impressive considering that this woman is in her mid-thirties and somewhere between 5'8"-5'10" tall) Libero - Hedder Illustre Sub (for Kanoe's front row) - Kawena Cubi-Otineru How did I do? Is this even close?? Any body else want to try??? Does anyone know if this is true?  |
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Post by PurpleisGold on Apr 17, 2010 20:06:35 GMT -5
In light of all that's happened over the last month (i.e. Haili Church VB Tourney, UH vs Alumni Match, current VB Warriors), I had wanted to take a stab at all that's presently 'Hawai'i Volleyball'). ;D Would this be a fair assessment of the 'best' that's now on the islands? *Of course I realize that others may have their own opinions/commentary so feel free to ammend this list if there is anyone I possibly overlooked...(here goes!) My predictions for a starting line-up--with reserves--for a full team of eight: Setter - Kimo Tuyay Opp - Jonas Umlauft Outside Hitters - Tony Ching, Michael Thornton Middle Blockers - Maulia La Barre, Matthew Rawson Libero - Alfred Reft (or is Brent Asuka back in the islands yet?) (subjective call, but) Sub - Sean Carney--because of his versatility Others which were in mind: Brian Zodrow (former UOP star) and Eyal Zimet (AVP Professional).
KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE'RE TALKING THOSE PLAYERS WHO ARE NOW RESIDING IN THE ISLANDS, how about the women: (a modified 5-1 scenario) Setter - Kanoe K.-Ka'aihue Outside Hitters - Kanani Danielson, Sarah Mason Setter/Opp - Robin Ah Mow (who can CRACK the ball with any set) Middle Blockers - Brittany Hewitt, Tanya F.-Anderson (most impressive considering that this woman is in her mid-thirties and somewhere between 5'8"-5'10" tall) Libero - Hedder Illustre Sub (for Kanoe's front row) - Kawena Cubi-Otineru How did I do? Is this even close?? Any body else want to try??? I'm still pretty much set on the men's side of things...after a tad more consideration on the women's (roster) side, I'm forced to revamp the starting line-up to reflect a) more heighth b) more youth and c) more international experience. Sorry, Kanoe, but Robyn has a bit of juice still left within, which still makes her 'HI's starting setter'. The rest are in following (in repetition for some): Setter - Robyn A.M.-Santos Outside Hitters - Kanani Danielson, Sarah Mason Middle Blockers - Brittany Hewitt, Fabiane Seben (UH-Hilo, Brazilian AA) Libero - Hedder Illustre Opp - Kawena Cubi-Otineru (Aneli would be the choice if she weren't with the National Team, so her sister will have to do) Sub - Tanya F.-Anderson ;D |
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Post by PurpleisGold on Apr 19, 2010 11:34:35 GMT -5
What's up Hawai'i |
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Post by po'okela on Apr 19, 2010 19:01:20 GMT -5
what's the point?
fyi, kanoe doesn't need anyone to sub her in the front row. if you remember correctly, she was a monster at the net averaging about/over a block a game.
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Post by PiG2 on Apr 19, 2010 22:20:18 GMT -5
what's the point? fyi, kanoe doesn't need anyone to sub her in the front row. if you remember correctly, she was a monster at the net averaging about/over a block a game. The point being that it doesn't take a Po'okela to know too much about HI VB.  In agreement about Kanoe...yes she's still got it but so does Robyn. Outside of J. Houston still (perhaps) being in HI studying, I don't 'see' a whole many others/skilled to be on my list. ...just sayin' that's all!  Did you get a glance at my WA picks in 'VT Frequently Asked Questions'? What would you say Po'o? Ay?? Redbeard??? |
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Post by PiG2 on Apr 19, 2010 22:46:31 GMT -5
Did you get a glance at my WA picks in 'VT Frequently Asked Questions'? What would you say Po'o? Ay?? Redbeard??? Trying it again.  |
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Post by slBrown on May 20, 2010 20:47:23 GMT -5
what's the point? fyi, kanoe doesn't need anyone to sub her in the front row. if you remember correctly, she was a monster at the net averaging about/over a block a game. The point being that it doesn't take a Po'okela to know too much about HI VB. In agreement about Kanoe...yes she's still got it but so does Robyn. Outside of J. Houston still (perhaps) being in HI studying, I don't 'see' a whole many others/skilled to be on my list. ...just sayin' that's all! Did you get a glance at my WA picks in 'VT Frequently Asked Questions'? What would you say Po'o? Ay?? Redbeard??? w/ Mathew Rawson being in SoCal training with the U.S. Team... Here's the way that I see things (broken down): Setter #1 - Stein Metzger, for even as he is 35 yrs. old, he proved at the HAILI CHURCH VB TOURNAMENT, that he does still have 'it' to bring should he want. Setter #2 - Kimo Tuyay (Beckwith is still healing, and I'm using Sam Morehouse as my Libero) Opp #1 - Jonas Umlauft Opp #2 - Brian Zodrow MB #1 - Maulia LaBarre MB #2 - Keali'i Frank MB #3 - Steven Grgas (only because D. Dante's opu has returned--making it all the more difficult to get up on the net) OH #1 - Tony Ching OH #2 - Mike Thornton OH #3 - Eyal Zimet OH #4 - Joshua Walker Libero - Sam Morehouse (Dustin Chun is the only other libero that's left 'in house' yet he doesn't have the setting ability in emergencies) On the Wahine side: w/ Jamie Houston (professionally) being in Puerto Rico... I'm going with Robyn Ah Mow, 5'9", at setter Brittany Hewitt, 6'3", at MB#1 Fabine Seben, 6'1', at MB#2 Kanani Danielson, 5'10", at OH#1 Sarah Mason, 6'3", at OH#2 Amber Kaufman, 6'0', at Opp (with Ka'aihue, 5'8", as her DS) Libero - Aneli Cubi-Otineru, 5'11" (as she is 'home' and no longer with the U.S.) subs: Josimera Pinheiro, 5'10", UHH (OH), Brazilian, All-Am. Kanoe Kamana'o, 5'8", setter Hedder Illustre, 5'7.5", libero My 'also rans': Tara Hittle, Kawena Cubi-Otineru, Tanya Fuamatu-Anderson The Wahine Coach-- Sharon Peterson (not Wilton, Reyes, Navalta, nor even Shoji). Sharon, the x-Olympian, has sooo much to offer (even still in Waimea, on the Big Island). There's no way on Earth that I'd also have that one 'ladeda' coach as well; she's too tough a nut!  Shoji, I'd make the Men's Coach. He's such a technician who would stress *most important* fundamentals with the men (a la son, Erik Shoji). ;D |
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Post by lovethisgame on May 21, 2010 15:55:02 GMT -5
Shoji, I'd make the Men's Coach. He's such a technician who would stress *most important* fundamentals with the men (a la son, Erik Shoji).
FYI...Eric is NOT a very good fundamental volleyball player. His passing technique is not very good and neither is his defensive technique. He is constantly moving on defense....not stopped and still at point of attack. Yes he is the best passer and defender in the country, but he is not technically sound...hes just real athletic and he is an amazing VB player. Just a few points to think about.
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Post by slBrown on May 22, 2010 14:32:08 GMT -5
Shoji, I'd make the Men's Coach. He's such a technician who would stress *most important* fundamentals with the men (a la son, Erik Shoji). FYI...Eric is NOT a very good fundamental volleyball player. His passing technique is not very good and neither is his defensive technique. He is constantly moving on defense....not stopped and still at point of attack. Yes he is the best passer and defender in the country, but he is not technically sound...hes just real athletic and he is an amazing VB player. Just a few points to think about. It's a bit difficult to, perhaps, argue against (or with) the seemingly flawless results, however, eh? Yes...not saying that Eric is perfect (we know that no one is), but you must admit that in the back row, he does come close to being as perfect as it comes!!! Movement on his defense, IMHO, does everything for his placement/location. He's a tennis player, also, and that movement is (I'm guessing) carryover from playing doubles. ____________________________________________________ And as far as the Wahine are concerned, about the only other 'add-on' would be Kristiana Tuaniga (who I'm believing will make great strides in improvement this next year). I can't say that she'll be better than Hewitt--blocking--but I do know that she's 'faster twitched' than Brittany and will be a HUGE part of UH's success(s) over the next couple of years. The 'Samoan Connection(s)' if you will. People can figure what I mean (w/out doubt)...2011, baby, NCAA WVB National Championship Game. Don't know if they'll have it all to win, either?!  That is unless UW upends things in the regional(s) and ends up being victorious themselves... |
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Post by slBrown on Jun 1, 2010 20:57:34 GMT -5
Of course your All Time 'Hwn', Hawai'i, UH-Manoa Team @ positions would have to include: OH - Allen Allen (multi All-American) OH - Tony Ching (1st team All-American) MB - Maulia LaBerre (All-American) MB - Brian Poppinga (All-American; who played OH, MB, and Opp; who married thee foxiest of UH's All-Americans, Karrie Triesman) Opp - Clay Stanley (multi Olympian, voted best VB player in the world) Setter - This is a WILD one, BUT..hang on..Rodney 'Roddy' Yomes. For although he never had a chance to prove himself in the collegiate arena, I believe that sister Missy @ UH did at least get him a walk-on that first freshman year. Later, having decided that academics was not his 'thing', Roddy went on to prove himself locally (among your many HI VB players/fans). Roddy is an all time great in Hawaii VB. He has won many awards; often he did play on the mainland, but he usually 'trekked' to the west coast.  Libero - Aaron Wilton (6'1', 2nd team All-American) ____________________________________________________ Someone else can take on the 'Hwn' Wahine roster...there have been too many and I'm losing interest/taking a break!  |
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Post by slBrown on Jun 1, 2010 22:21:17 GMT -5
Oh yeah (and let's not forget)... There have been UH-Mano'a, UH-Hilo, BYU-HI, and HPU since VB first began as an AIAW / NCAA (Div. I and II) / NAIA (when back then, MANY of those girls could just as easily have played Div. I or II) sport. |
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Post by ciscokeed on Jun 2, 2010 10:16:19 GMT -5
Hey lovethisgame... why is being stopped and still necessarily good technique?? If you want to cover a ton of court, you're going to be moving! Great defenders flow into the ball...it's platform angles and body control and moving to find the right seam. Shoji plays middle back, and you will notice his hips and shoulders are lined into the hitter as he is moving, which is the way Karch used to play that position...Do you move quicker from a dead start or a rolling start? Yes, you don't want your players flailing as they dig a ball, but watch your best middle back players in the world. They move....
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Post by volley13 on Jun 2, 2010 19:30:36 GMT -5
lovethisgame, you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. erik is the most technically sound passer/digger in the game. period. go ask karch and or any mpsf coach. he reads the play, but is always stopped in good positions when the ball is contacted. if you'd like me to go into more technical details, i will. del valle from psu and csun libero move all over the place. go watch the final four matches again.
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Post by ciscokeed on Jun 4, 2010 9:59:37 GMT -5
Agree with volley13- and I think that balance is the key word... some people move- but even during movement they are balanced with the contact...Shoji is really good at maintaining balance
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