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Post by benwhipdrofn on Apr 17, 2004 23:31:56 GMT -5
MIVA Tournament quarterfinal matches
#8 Quincy at #1 Ohio State - Saturday, April 24, 7 p.m.
#7 Findlay at #2 Ball State - tba
#6 Mercyhurst at #3 Loyola - tba
#5 Lewis at #4 IPFW - tba
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Post by sponge13 on Apr 17, 2004 23:42:56 GMT -5
Ball State's quarterfinal is at 7 p.m. on April 24.
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Post by avchi17 on Apr 18, 2004 0:00:01 GMT -5
does anyone know how this was determined? the seeds for 2-4?
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Post by sponge13 on Apr 18, 2004 0:06:04 GMT -5
Since all were tied, it goes to conference records between the three teams.
Ball State was 2-0 vs. IPFW and split with Loyola for 3-1 record.
Loyola split with Ball State and IPFW for 2-2 record.
IPFW lost both to Ball State and split with Loyola for 1-3 record.
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Post by VILI on Apr 18, 2004 0:36:03 GMT -5
IPFW vs LEWIS FIRST ROUND!!!! WOW! I am very excited to see this, and then a potential second round matchup with OSU? seems like IPFW and Lewis have a tough draw!
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Post by Gorf on Apr 18, 2004 1:14:11 GMT -5
Is IPFW still the Volleydons?
I don't recall them even having a volleyvall team (at least not one with any national level achievements) when I was theoretically going to school there back in the late 70s / early 80s.
I'll still cheer for them from afar though.
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Post by vb on Apr 18, 2004 1:15:50 GMT -5
Gotta like Loyola to reach the final, where anything can happen.
First round, 2 things in Loyola favor
home gym...they are very tough there (beat PSU there)
and it is Mercyhurst (not dissing program)
Second round, 2 things in Loyola favor
Loyola is the hot team right now (important at T time)
Loylola beat BSU 3-0 last time they played.
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Post by midwestfan on Apr 18, 2004 5:20:51 GMT -5
>-(Gorf)-<[} link=board=menvb&thread=1082262716&start=5#0 date=1082268851]Is IPFW still the Volleydons? I don't recall them even having a volleyvall team (at least not one with any national level achievements) when I was theoretically going to school there back in the late 70s / early 80s. I'll still cheer for them from afar though. Yes, they are still the Volleydons. I think they were just getting started in the late 70's/ early 80's. |
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Post by midwestfan on Apr 18, 2004 5:25:40 GMT -5
IPFW vs LEWIS FIRST ROUND!!!! WOW! I am very excited to see this, and then a potential second round matchup with OSU? seems like IPFW and Lewis have a tough draw! The four/five draw is always the toughest. Last year IPFW was a five seed, went into Columbus and beat Ohio State. That's especially one where anything can happen and a lot of times does. Both IPFW and Lewis had their chances, they both just ran into buz saws named Loyola and Ohio State! |
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Post by VILI on Apr 18, 2004 11:27:46 GMT -5
 I am not sure I agree with VB saying he likes Loyola in the Finals....
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Post by BoozeHound on Apr 18, 2004 12:59:11 GMT -5
idk how it makes sense....but players on ipfw said that coach ball said that they are playing mercyhurst first round...i guess he talked with miva officials or something, but personally it doesnt make sense
also if the seeds are correct as ben put it, and how IPFW is playing, i also could see loyola in the finals
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Post by sponge13 on Apr 18, 2004 18:32:32 GMT -5
BoozeHound quote
"idk how it makes sense....but players on ipfw said that coach ball said that they are playing mercyhurst first round...i guess he talked with miva officials or something, but personally it doesnt make sense
also if the seeds are correct as ben put it, and how IPFW is playing, i also could see loyola in the finals"
Yeah, it would not make sense if IPFW were third in the seedings. IPFW has the least amount of match wins when comparing the three tied teams. Even breaking out Ball State to be second from the initial tiebreaking, IPFW would lose to Loyola in head-to-head. IPFW won only three games head-to-head, while Loyolya won five. So I am not sure how IPFW would move above to third seed and host Mercyhurst. The MIVA web site has not changed its current seedings (1. OSU, 2. BSU, 3. Loy, 4. IPFW, 5. Lew, 6. Mercy, 7. Find, 8. Quincy).
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Post by benwhipdrofn on Apr 18, 2004 19:51:33 GMT -5
total matches played:
ohio 28
Loyola 26
Ball State 28
IPFW 24
Lewis 29
Mercyhurst 25
Findlay 30
Quincy 24
Clark 21
Loyola has the highest winning average
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Post by VBbeast on Apr 19, 2004 11:09:43 GMT -5
While that is true I'm not sure what the relevance of that is since there is no way to really guage actual strength of schedule.
Its a 5 match season. One team celebrates the rest go home and think about what might have been.
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Post by banthony2 on Apr 19, 2004 12:13:38 GMT -5
It's only a 5 match season for everybody but BYU. They can lose at the right time and still win a National Championship. A team in the MIVA has to do something amazing like Lewis did last year when they pulled off 5 game stunners of Pepperdine and BYU. I am calling Ball State. Over the summer on the Volleyball Magazine forum they were one of my 5 teams to look out for and I think it would be neat to see them get back to the Final Four after almost losing their program.
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I am not sure I agree with VB saying he likes Loyola in the Finals....