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Post by utevbfan17 on Apr 16, 2007 23:40:33 GMT -5
So what are the thoughts on where Airial Salvo and Sydney Anderson are actually going to end up
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Post by prosem on Apr 17, 2007 0:41:26 GMT -5
I find it hard to believe that Salvo and Anderson will end up at UW. Maybe because I find the thought so unpalitable. Neither would be able to play for a year. By that time I think that Jenna H will have gotten the setter role in hand. Anderson would have to compete with her for playing time.. How does it that help her with the goals that the two stated were the reason for transfering in the first place. Salvo will have to compete for playing time also.. Neither may be up too it. There is no guarentee that they would be playing at all. None of it makes any sense.. UW has a strong recuit class and will continue to recuit well in the future.. I dont think it is any better a situation at WU than at Utah in fact I think it is worse. As for Jim having anything to do with having them leave Utah.... that is crazy.. He dosent really need them. Of course I always hated Sandel coming to UW also. I have always thought that the girls that commited to the program completly by coming in as freshmen should be the ones that reap the rewards of the its success. I always thought that Jill C would have been that much farther along in her development if Sandel had not been alowed to transfer in.
So can I vote for them to go back to Utah *L*
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2007 1:01:01 GMT -5
It won't be Hawaii, they already have 2 setters, and it's going to crowded at outside hitter the upcoming years with the recruits they have coming in. I don't think they have any scholarships left either.
I vote for them just begging for forgiveness and going back to Utah, yeah I know fat chance of that happening.
Make no mistake some team WILL pick them up, just not sure if it will be a top 10 type team with a realistic shot at a championship.
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Post by hwy101 on Apr 17, 2007 1:16:58 GMT -5
I would say College of Southern Idaho. Aside from recruiting sketchy players, don't they have a tradition of winning a national chamionship? ;D
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Post by vbfanatic on Apr 17, 2007 10:05:32 GMT -5
Are they willing to go out of state pay a year of tuition themselves at a top program...be a practice player...and not play next season without a guarantee they will start in 2008. Sounds like a big risk for a reward that may or may not come. Just because they go play in the PAC-10 does not mean they are a lock for the National Team and they also need to remember that only the 12 players make the Olympic Team and it may be very tough for her to make that cut.
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Post by prosem on Apr 17, 2007 11:05:31 GMT -5
Are they willing to go out of state pay a year of tuition themselves at a top program...be a practice player...and not play next season without a guarantee they will start in 2008. Sounds like a big risk for a reward that may or may not come. Just because they go play in the PAC-10 does not mean they are a lock for the National Team and they also need to remember that only the 12 players make the Olympic Team and it may be very tough for her to make that cut. that is what I was trying to say. You said it much better than my ramblings.
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Post by brybry2 on Apr 17, 2007 18:37:34 GMT -5
Wouldn't Salvo be a good fit for Washington? I thought Washington was losing all their OHs after this season. The Huskies also seem to be lacking strong ballhandlers recently. Salvo could provide a solution.
Also, are these girls trying to join the National Team or are they aiming for the beach?
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Post by Wolfgang on Apr 17, 2007 19:14:18 GMT -5
I would say College of Southern Idaho. Aside from recruiting sketchy players, don't they have a tradition of winning a national chamionship? ;D I know you're joking, of course. But to go from an NCAA Div I school (Utah) to a JC, under the My-Dream-is-to-play-in-the-Olympics rationale, is just so funny on so many levels!!!
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Post by prosem on Apr 17, 2007 19:24:02 GMT -5
Wouldn't Salvo be a good fit for Washington? I thought Washington was losing all their OHs after this season. The Huskies also seem to be lacking strong ballhandlers recently. Salvo could provide a solution. The Huskies have three OHs on the roster after this season. They have two scholarships available for 2008 in which they could get two more. Kindra Carlson OH 6-0 FR HS Eaton, Colo./Eaton Becky Perry OH 6-2 RS FR HS Austin, Texas/Bowie Jill Collymore OH 5-10 JR 2V Bellevue, Wash./The Bush School
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Post by pedro el leon on Apr 17, 2007 20:26:13 GMT -5
Wouldn't Salvo be a good fit for Washington? I thought Washington was losing all their OHs after this season. The Huskies also seem to be lacking strong ballhandlers recently. Salvo could provide a solution. The Huskies have three OHs on the roster after this season. They have two scholarships available for 2008 in which they could get two more. Kindra Carlson OH 6-0 FR HS Eaton, Colo./Eaton Becky Perry OH 6-2 RS FR HS Austin, Texas/Bowie Jill Collymore OH 5-10 JR 2V Bellevue, Wash./The Bush School They're also trying hard to land Tarah Murrey, and I *think* I might have read that Barfield plays outside as well as middle... maybe. I should know the local recruits better than I do haha.
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Post by prosem on Apr 18, 2007 1:05:24 GMT -5
Tarah Murrey is a very long long long shot to UW. It is because Jim is such a good coach and runs a great program that we get considered by the heavy top five hitters, however landing one would be like winning the lottery. A California school for her most likely. An outside hitter of that caliber out of HS will have to be home grown for us (re Christal)...meaning the pacific northwest area. Or maybe someplace very very far away who knows. When you think about living in the constant sunshine, with the beaches, and disneyland, and the plastic fantastic people, it is hard for a cal girl to see the charms of Seattle. They see the only the rain and freak. Local girls know how lovely and special this place and the culture is.
Sorry about getting a bit off topic. Yeah, maybe the OH from Utah would be a good fit. Have to wait and see what the real reason for the transfer was and if she would fit in to the team chemistry. If the story is what we know now, probably not a fit. But there may be more to the story. The two girls may also have two different reasons for leaving Utah.
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Post by StanfordFan on Apr 18, 2007 2:12:38 GMT -5
I disagree. Seattle is beautiful, despite the rain. And McLaughlin has built a strong program with a lot of local support. If I had a daughter who played volleyball, I would encourage her to go there (unless of course she was being recruited by Stanford). Tarah Murrey is a very long long long shot to UW. It is because Jim is such a good coach and runs a great program that we get considered by the heavy top five hitters, however landing one would be like winning the lottery. A California school for her most likely. An outside hitter of that caliber out of HS will have to be home grown for us (re Christal)...meaning the pacific northwest area. Or maybe someplace very very far away who knows. When you think about living in the constant sunshine, with the beaches, and disneyland, and the plastic fantastic people, it is hard for a cal girl to see the charms of Seattle. They see the only the rain and freak. Local girls know how lovely and special this place and the culture is. Sorry about getting a bit off topic. Yeah, maybe the OH from Utah would be a good fit. Have to wait and see what the real reason for the transfer was and if she would fit in to the team chemistry. If the story is what we know now, probably not a fit. But there may be more to the story. The two girls may also have two different reasons for leaving Utah.
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Post by mamba on Apr 18, 2007 15:53:44 GMT -5
It sounds to me that utevbfan17 must have been affected by all this if she was the author of all this. I think if they want to transfer let them. I've had the opportunity to see them play a couple of times on the television and they are very good. I think if they feel like leaving, let them. Why does it matter for what reasons, it's there life they have to live.
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Post by Babar on Apr 18, 2007 15:57:36 GMT -5
There are several reasons to be disappointed in this situation.
The players have benefited from a very good coach who has a built a program from scratch to where it is strong enough to place several players on the USA development team. She has overcome significant odds while doing this, not the least of which was a very strong program at BYU which Utah has surpassed in recent years.
While we cannot fault players for having a dream, the reality is that Utah has a better chance of competing for a national championship next year than the US women's volleyball team has of becoming the top women's team in the world. In other words, Utah has done a better job than USA volleyball.
There is enough blame to go everywhere for a situation like this, but some of it has to lie with the parents of the players who need to tell their kids to get back into the gym at Utah and get to work. Why would a national program want to recruit athletes who would rather jump ship then get to work? We all know that kids can make emotional decisions, but one would hope that parents could lend some perspective to the situatiion. Almost every athlete wants to quite or transfer at some time or another because they don't get the role they want, they don't get the recognition they want or they don't get the playing time they want. Fortunately some of them have parents and former coaches who recognize the value of encouraging their kids to work through issues rather than looking for disposable committments.
I cannot fault a developing program for allowing one of these players. One would hope, however, that the strongest programs (the ones that year and year out have the talent to compete at the highest levels) will resist the urge to pick up some quick depth. If one of these programs does so than they are sending a message to future recruits than it really doesn't make any difference where you go, because if things don't work out . . . that is if you don't have the character to work through issues . . . you can just transfer and maybe get to play on a team that appears to have more talent.
I hope that someone with influence, perhaps a junior coach or a high school coach steps forward end tells these two kids the truth. The best part about being a leader on a team is practiing, playing and finding a way to make the players around you better. If they transfer they are missing out on that opportunity.
It's past time for parents, former coaches and people who really care about these kids to step up and give these kids the best chance to grow up. If they leave (which they seem likely to do) it will just delay their development.
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Post by justaute on Apr 18, 2007 16:04:58 GMT -5
It sounds to me that utevbfan17 must have been affected by all this if she was the author of all this. I think if they want to transfer let them. I've had the opportunity to see them play a couple of times on the television and they are very good. I think if they feel like leaving, let them. Why does it matter for what reasons, it's there life they have to live. Maybe I'm missing something...I don't believe utevbfan17 was the author of "all this." The first thread regarding these Utah transfers was posted by another board member.
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