Any PrepVB Board user out there?

[INcrediBall]

Here's my problem. I want to post on Prep. I'm a registered user. I've been a paying customer from the start. I don't ever post on Prep so I didn't realize that I have computer problem until this morning. I've paid my annual dues, however, the EZboard system and my computer are not meshing. I've disabled cookies, checked my spam folder, etc, and I can't get my registered account to work. I don't feel that contacting Prep's webmaster is the answer since the problem is on EZBoards side (emailed EZboard- waiting on response)

In the meanwhile, I have a question that would best be answered by Prep's community, although I'd be interested (or maybe not) in what the VT has to say about my dilemma.

My apologies to JT for going around the system- I'm trying to work out the bug- I promise- but time is of the essence here, and I really need to get back to work. I've struggled with this thing all morning.

So- if someone wants to send the following to the prep board for me- I'd be grateful. Here's the problem:[/color]

Disclaimer, I don't generally go to his board for advice, but I'm concerned and confused about something- so here goes:

My daughter is playing Middle School VB and her 8th grade coach has decided that she will not teach or allow the girls to block at the net this season. She's afraid that they will get injured. Before I ask for input let me say:

1) Most of these girls have been playing club ball for 3 or more years and have been blocking in club for the last two.
2) It's not like we live in a "bump it over the net" area of the country. We live in Volleyball-rich Indiana. My daughter's team will be playing some talented teams and at this age the girls are hitting one balls and slides.
3) My kid, who will likely play MB, will, out of habit, block at the net. The problem is, the coach is not teaching them to cover the tip or roll, so.... another problem.

There is a parent meeting tonight and the "no blocking" policy is on the agenda.

I'll admit, my initial reaction is that the coach nutty. I want to put up a big fight, tell her she's crazy, or at the very least present a strong argument against her policy. However, for the sake of "open-mindedness" I'll consider any arguments any of you have that support this wacky philosophy.

On the flip side, I'd really like to get some comments to take into this meeting to support my argument that the girls should be permitted to block. Not only should they be permitted, but, they are going to do it anyway, and should be taught to block correctly, to avoid injury- (jumping and landing on two feet , protecting the face and wrist, etc.). They should not be reprimanded, or worse, by the coach, for playing the game the way it is supposed to be played. Do you bench a BB player for taking a charge?

Also, it's not like my kid is comfortable with this. She came to me and asked that I talk to the coach. I'm not a coach and don't know everything about the game, but I know enough. My oldest daughter played 4 years of Div I and has 3 Conference rings- ( I digress into brag mode- my apologies)-so I'm no rookie to the game.

Ok- so there it is. I hold my breath and click on "Add Post"....

(btw- I've also run my concern by the high school coach, club director and my oldest daughter- thus far, the hs coach has responded and agrees with me)

[Deleted]

I will post it.

[Not Me]

the only time I have ever had kids not block is very beginning players who don't move well, and the other teams just bump it over the net.

I agree that this sounds odd.

Does the coach know how to teach blocking? Seriously, if the coach doesn't know how to teach it, then maybe they want to shy away from it.

can the High School coach say something? They could phrase it as "I expect that when the girls move up they know how to ..." and include blocking in there. that coach could let it be known that if the girls aren't used to blocking then they will be at a disadvantage.

[D. B. Cooper]

Are you trying to use your PrepVB login info to login on to EzBoards? As you've noticed the two don't work well together. I so, you may want to register a separate account thru just Ezboards. Actually one can be a registered PrepVb Ezboard user without being a member of PrepVB. Of course, you've may have already tried all this, then never mind.

No blocking for fear on injury? That'd be like playing football without tackling.

[Revbang]

I seem to remember back when my daughter was playing at the 13's level at nationals in Salt Lake that Encinitas was not blocking. Their setter Jas Muchado (sp?) took one in the face and got a broken nose. So much for no injuries.

[INcrediBall]

Backwoods- yes, yes and yes- not using my ID login, agree with the FB anology
Tk- I have a feeling hs coach may say something - told her I would keep her up to speed- I have a feeling coach can't teach it- daughter fears the same - also thinks she can't teach players how to cover- however, there are sufficient resources in the area if the coach needs help in this - probably a matter of pride then..

(R)- thx!

Gotta get back to work- thanks all!

[mervynpumpkinhead]

incrediball said:

Here's my problem. I want to post on Prep. I'm a registered user. I've been a paying customer from the start. I don't ever post on Prep so I didn't realize that I have computer problem until this morning. I've paid my annual dues, however, the EZboard system and my computer are not meshing. I've disabled cookies, checked my spam folder, etc, and I can't get my registered account to work. I don't feel that contacting Prep's webmaster is the answer since the problem is on EZBoards side (emailed EZboard- waiting on response)

In the meanwhile, I have a question that would best be answered by Prep's community, although I'd be interested (or maybe not) in what the VT has to say about my dilemma.

My apologies to JT for going around the system- I'm trying to work out the bug- I promise- but time is of the essence here, and I really need to get back to work. I've struggled with this thing all morning.

So- if someone wants to send the following to the prep board for me- I'd be grateful. Here's the problem:

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Disclaimer, I don't generally go to his board for advice, but I'm concerned and confused about something- so here goes:

My daughter is playing Middle School VB and her 8th grade coach has decided that she will not teach or allow the girls to block at the net this season. She's afraid that they will get injured. Before I ask for input let me say:

1) Most of these girls have been playing club ball for 3 or more years and have been blocking in club for the last two.
2) It's not like we live in a "bump it over the net" area of the country. We live in Volleyball-rich Indiana. My daughter's team will be playing some talented teams and at this age the girls are hitting one balls and slides.
3) My kid, who will likely play MB, will, out of habit, block at the net. The problem is, the coach is not teaching them to cover the tip or roll, so.... another problem.

There is a parent meeting tonight and the "no blocking" policy is on the agenda.

I'll admit, my initial reaction is that the coach nutty. I want to put up a big fight, tell her she's crazy, or at the very least present a strong argument against her policy. However, for the sake of "open-mindedness" I'll consider any arguments any of you have that support this wacky philosophy.

On the flip side, I'd really like to get some comments to take into this meeting to support my argument that the girls should be permitted to block. Not only should they be permitted, but, they are going to do it anyway, and should be taught to block correctly, to avoid injury- (jumping and landing on two feet , protecting the face and wrist, etc.). They should not be reprimanded, or worse, by the coach, for playing the game the way it is supposed to be played. Do you bench a BB player for taking a charge?

Also, it's not like my kid is comfortable with this. She came to me and asked that I talk to the coach. I'm not a coach and don't know everything about the game, but I know enough. My oldest daughter played 4 years of Div I and has 3 Conference rings- ( I digress into brag mode- my apologies)-so I'm no rookie to the game.

Ok- so there it is. I hold my breath and click on "Add Post"....

(btw- I've also run my concern by the high school coach, club director and my oldest daughter- thus far, the hs coach has responded and agrees with me)
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Let it go, and don't worry about it. Your daughter's middle school season doesn't account for much in her overall development. Club is much more important.

[3talltrees]

Living in volleyball-rich southern california, I just can't understand the feeling of having such intense disappointment over the middle school coaching. Most of our club tweens, don't even want to play middle school, because there isn't enough good competition from school to school. If you are really concerned about your daughter's blocking skills, get her some coaching on the side. Club practices will be starting up again before you know it.

[Phaedrus]

mervynpumpkinhead said:

Let it go, and don't worry about it. Your daughter's middle school season doesn't account for much in her overall development. Club is much more important.[/quote]

I think the concern has more to do with unteaching the impulse to block and then relearning to go up with every ball, all that does is waste practice time. Not that much time though.

If injury is a concern, then just have kids block where they stand, like middles block middles and right side block the opposing left side and then let the kids play defense with 5. That atakes away the transition from pin to pin. Then again she might be thinking about people landing on each other's ankles, in which case, lets just play hack ball.

[norcalmomster]

I can't post either. I've been trying to say congrats to Sophia Dunsworth on her choice of Duke!!!! Makes me nuts. I went in and tried to re-register and finally gave up.

[mervynpumpkinhead]

phaedrus said:

mervynpumpkinhead said:

Let it go, and don't worry about it. Your daughter's middle school season doesn't account for much in her overall development. Club is much more important.

I think the concern has more to do with unteaching the impulse to block and then relearning to go up with every ball, all that does is waste practice time. Not that much time though.

If injury is a concern, then just have kids block where they stand, like middles block middles and right side block the opposing left side and then let the kids play defense with 5. That atakes away the transition from pin to pin. Then again she might be thinking about people landing on each other's ankles, in which case, lets just play hack ball.[/quote]

To me it sounds like the coach is a little behind the curve. But like you said, it wouldn't take much time to relearn the "impulse" to block. Parent should just smile, smile, and wait for January.

[Wolfgang]

A parents' meeting? For a middle school team? It's good that parents are involved with their kids but it's been my experience that at some point, when you get a bunch of parents together, there will be stirrings of a mob lynching of the coach.

[azvb]

I coached my daughter's 8th grade team. We did not block for the following reasons:

*90% of the balls that came back were free or down balls. Maybe 1 out of 10 balls some "tried" to attack. Usually in the net or 20 feet out of bounds.
*I only had 1 week of practice before the first game-spent 95% of the time in practice on serving and passing. I figured if we served tough enough, we wouldn't have to block.
*My daughter was the only one who had any experience and it was limited. Other 11 girls had never played.
*Tallest girl on the team was 5'7". Maybe 2-3 girls could get their hands wrist high above the net. No one on the other teams could hit the ball "down". I figured the block would probably never touch the ball.
*I took the two best athletes, made them setters, put them in middle front (so they could hit overpasses) and middle back (man up). They set each other most of the time. I think we ended up 12-2.

I agree-let it go. It's 8th grade. If your daughter and the others can't go along, they shouldn't play. If there are some teams that actually hit the ball, maybe the coach will change her mind. Like the idea of one blocker only,block your hitter-not much chance for injury.

[BearClause]

So - any lucking logging in and/or posting to the PrepVB board?

I tried and didn't seem to have any problems. I tacked on a semi-serious reply to (R)uffda's original post. Part of it was to see if I could actually post. For everyone, whether or not you're a subscriber should have nothing to do with whether you can log in or post. The subscription site and board are on completely different systems and shouldn't share information. I think there might have been a time when your PrepVB subscription username/password were transferred to the board, but I think that was a one-time deal.

p094.ezboard.com/fprepvolleyballfrm2.showMessage?topicID=19939.topic

Oh - speaking of (R)uffda, I looked this up for some strange reason:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uff_da

[The Bofa on the Sofa]

Growing up in northeast Iowa, too darn close to the Minnesota border and the Norwegians, I don't need to look up what uff-da means.