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Post by mango on Oct 25, 2007 21:00:25 GMT -5
So you have a choice of two setters, one that gets 12 - 13 assists per game but can't handle the second ball and another that gets 11 - 12 assists per game and can get 3 - 4 kills per game and eliminates the double block on the OHs. Is there a team configuration or perfomrance where one setter is preferred over the other ?
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Post by roy on Oct 25, 2007 21:17:17 GMT -5
It all sort of depends on the team. Some teams don’t want the setter to dump the ball at all. For example, Hawaii doesn’t use the dump at all because of Shoji’s philosophy. Shoji believed the hitters should be good enough to get the kill. This was especially true for the team with Willoughby when she could get a kill off of almost any set. On the other hand, some teams like to have all 6 weapons running. Nebraska had Cepero and she would get kill after kill on the dump shot.
To me, it comes down to the setter. If the setter is using the dump shot and can hit for a higher percent than the rest of her team, the setter should keep going to that shot, as she is doing a better job of getting the ball down than her teammates. On the other hand, if you have a hot hitter or if the opposing team is starting to dig up that shot, you need to go to your hitters and stop using the dump shot.
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Post by bunnywailer on Oct 25, 2007 23:50:02 GMT -5
One of my pet peeves with college setters is that they almost always attack a tight ball to the net instead of doing a jump set to the outside. If they would just jump and set the ball, their outside hitter is going to be one on one. Instead, they attack the ball and the middle blocker knows its coming. That is one of the things I've really noticed about International level setters. If they can get their hands to the ball before it crosses the net, they will sent it to a hitter. They only try to attack when it is absolutely not expected. have you ever set the ball that is very tight to the net ?? Yes, I have. Probably a couple thousand of those in my lifetime. I've probably had a couple hundred balls that were completely over the plane of the net and in the opponent's court that I brought back and put up hittable balls to my quick hitters and my leftside hitters. I am also left-handed, which gave me the option of a dump shot or, if the pass was high enough and on the right trajectory, an attack on two. Most women's collegiate setters are both right-handed and not-very-athletic. They should keep their assortment of crappy-ass dump shots and quasi-offensive moves at the net tucked away in their closet and not use them in match situations. It's an embarassment to the art of setting. Focus instead on running an effective offense and put up hittable balls for your teammates in every situation over the course of an entire match. |
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Post by VolleyTX on Oct 26, 2007 8:55:52 GMT -5
Amen!
I actually think that a lot of setters would be BETTER SETTERS if they were to completely remove their offensive notions from their thinking. If they completely focused on distributing the ball, they would make better decisions and set cleaner balls. Three players that come to mind immediately are Spicer, Kehoe and Holloway.
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Post by mysharona on Oct 26, 2007 11:29:00 GMT -5
Taylor Carico did a nice job her freshman year swinging. Was effective both tipping and hitting. This was largely a function of Seilhamer's ball control. She handled every free ball she could, and passed it right up to the net where Carico could easily attack if it was open. I believe they called it the "310" but the Trojanites can probably elaborate. "310 kill" |
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Post by BearClause on Oct 26, 2007 12:08:24 GMT -5
This was largely a function of Seilhamer's ball control. She handled every free ball she could, and passed it right up to the net where Carico could easily attack if it was open. I believe they called it the "310" but the Trojanites can probably elaborate. "310 kill" Is it a good idea to use that term in that particular neighborhood? |
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Post by roofed! on Oct 26, 2007 12:36:03 GMT -5
Is it a good idea to use that term in that particular neighborhood? The athletic dept came up with the 310 (where she's from) to imitate Reggie Bush with his 619 (San Diego area code). |
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Post by johnhenry on Oct 26, 2007 12:38:18 GMT -5
Engle's done some cobra-strikes when we've played her as a setter in a 6-2. Pretty nasty the way she does it, but it's used sparingly, which I like. She had a really choice one after Moriarty saved an errant dig in the Nebraska match.
And we shut Holloway's junk down, unlike in Lincoln, where she abused us with those little blind flips.
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Post by vtalker1 on Oct 26, 2007 13:43:57 GMT -5
Have to agree with Shoji, Skynyrd and VolleyTX. I'd much rather watch a setter execute a well planned offense involving her hitters.
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