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Post by Phaedrus on Aug 25, 2008 21:57:29 GMT -5
Lang Ping is not a player's coach. You won't hear any praise about her coming from her players. That's weird, since in the last year there have been several articles and interview videos linked on this site where some of the players talk about how much they like and respect her. Stacy Sykora spoke positively of Lang Ping even when describing how Lang put her through a gruelling skills test when she wanted to return to the team. Interesting. JLP had coached her at Jesi before she took over the national team, so its not like she didn't know what Stacy's ability was.
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Post by baywatcher on Aug 25, 2008 23:34:21 GMT -5
I thought JLP was great in that she never seemed to yell at the team, or stomp on the sideline, or perform other theatrics seen from other coaches. I have heard again and again you can't yell at female teams, and although these athletes are certainly thicker skinned I would think the USA team responded well to her cool demeanor. Suggestions and instructions, not denunciations. Of course, behind closed doors who knows, but....
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Post by ucsdfan on Aug 26, 2008 0:09:19 GMT -5
I thought JLP was great in that she never seemed to yell at the team, or stomp on the sideline, or perform other theatrics seen from other coaches. I have heard again and again you can't yell at female teams, and although these athletes are certainly thicker skinned I would think the USA team responded well to her cool demeanor. Suggestions and instructions, not denunciations. Of course, behind closed doors who knows, but.... I too was impressed by her calm demeanor. She was under a mciroscope during that tournament and it seemed like she didn't get phased by anything. I must say that she had a brilliant substitution pattern. She played the hot hands, put in a second DS at the right time, put a second MB in the front at the perfect time and basically made all the right moves. The only possible criticism is not letting her setter work through the rough spots in games, but that's easy for me to say after the fact with no pressure. With all the pressure on her coming home, she did magnificiently.
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Post by doctordubya on Aug 26, 2008 10:54:37 GMT -5
Re: the subject of the thread - if you go back to the appointment of new US national team coaches post-Athens, all the talk then was that USAV had staked most of their coach salary budget on getting Lang Ping (and probably also on Doug Beal's salary as CEO), and so the men had to 'make do' with a cheaper coaching option in Hugh McCutcheon.
If that really was the case then Hugh wins hands-down on value for money (or ROI if you like that sort of thing). I hope he demands a stonking great salary when his contract comes up for renewal, because there will be a lot of club sides very happy to take him.
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Post by bunnywailer on Aug 26, 2008 11:22:15 GMT -5
McCutcheon is Gold Medal Squared??? So are they going to change the name??? Gold Medal Cubed? ? HAH! You big dork. You stole my joke before I could post it! ;D
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Post by itsallrelative on Aug 26, 2008 13:20:36 GMT -5
Re: the subject of the thread - if you go back to the appointment of new US national team coaches post-Athens, all the talk then was that USAV had staked most of their coach salary budget on getting Lang Ping (and probably also on Doug Beal's salary as CEO), and so the men had to 'make do' with a cheaper coaching option in Hugh McCutcheon. quote] here's the question: can the US afford both JLP and HMc? or, with their bloated structure, and a junior volleyball ATM membership that's both tapped out and fed up with USAV, are the rentention of these two truly international level coaches unrealistic?
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Post by callinup22 on Aug 26, 2008 13:40:40 GMT -5
People are fed up with USAV on the junior scene? ¿Qué? I'm in the dark on this one.
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Post by brybry on Aug 27, 2008 1:57:32 GMT -5
Congrats to the success of both teams and their respective coaches. JLP was getting so much criticism by the posters on this board. Some of it borderline xenophobic. From watching the Olympics, I feel like JLP might absolutely the right choices. The woman knows volleyball. She got this US Women's team to overachieve. With the lack of talent in ballhandling skills, it is amazing the US Women won the silver medal.
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Post by Not Me on Aug 27, 2008 8:43:51 GMT -5
For the AVCA convention in december, Hugh is scheduled to be there to represent the Men's team, but Lang ping is not. sue Woodstera is the one representing the Women's team.
Just wondering if there is a reason behind this, or if lang Ping just doesn't want to be in Omaha in December.
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 27, 2008 13:55:02 GMT -5
What are their respective appearance fees, if any?
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Post by Phaedrus on Aug 27, 2008 14:25:56 GMT -5
What are their respective appearance fees, if any? Not sure if they get paid extra. 1) I think it is part of their responsibilities with the USAV 2) For other speakers, AVCA pays for some things like accommodation.
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Post by Wolfgang on Aug 27, 2008 14:43:20 GMT -5
I guess it's not much of a responsibility with the USAV if she can skip the dang thing.
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Post by Phaedrus on Aug 27, 2008 15:24:25 GMT -5
I guess it's not much of a responsibility with the USAV if she can skip the dang thing. You are correct. Some NT coaches enjoy this interaction. Others try to avoid it. JLP did show up last year to sub for Jerritt Elliott's session, so she paid her dues. The year before she was supposed to do the pre-convention seminar but got caught in a visa snafu in China.
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Post by itsallrelative on Aug 27, 2008 15:56:51 GMT -5
I would imagine the always tenous AVCA-USAV connection is even more so these days, with the AVCA's adoption of the JVDA as a member organization.....
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Post by vbdewd on Sept 1, 2008 18:46:29 GMT -5
For the AVCA convention in december, Hugh is scheduled to be there to represent the Men's team, but Lang ping is not. sue Woodstera is the one representing the Women's team. Hmmm. Interesting. I thought Woodstra was going back to her college team after this; but perhaps she may do some more USA stuff after this NCAA season? On the other hand, maybe she was going to the AVCA thing anyway and JLP wasn't so why not fill in? I would imagine the always tenous AVCA-USAV connection is even more so these days, with the AVCA's adoption of the JVDA as a member organization..... Yeah, I'd like to hear AVCA's explanation for the apparent "slap in the face" of USAV on this. Not sure I've ever heard what the rationale AVCA had for aligning with this group; (if one was ever given).
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