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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 29, 2009 11:28:49 GMT -5
All this talk about tyring to keep the top seeds away from Nebraska is disappointing.This isn't a Nebraska team that can do what last season's Nebraska team could do. Having said that, I could see the Committee playing with the seedings to assure that Penn State (or Texas) avoids Nebraska. I can see Hawai'i at 8 or 9 because the Committee may feel like Hawai'i provides the easiest opportunity for Penn State to move to the final four. Heck, I could also see Hawai'i being seeded with a low seed like others have made mention of (nothing will suprise Hawai'i fans, we've see it all.) However, if the seedings are truely merit based, Hawai'i will be a 5 or 6 seed.
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Post by justavolleyballfan on Nov 29, 2009 11:34:01 GMT -5
Stanford's RKPI is #5 already, it's not a stretch to seed them #4 or even #3 against whoever is sent there. Saying they're a #5 underdog to some poor #4 seed sent there would be a joke. By the same argument, shouldn't fsu be at least a top 6 seed? Better rpi, less losses. I think the committee will not forget some key preseason losses. Stanford's three losses and Nebraska's two losses.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 29, 2009 12:03:13 GMT -5
Very curious to see which teams get to play Pablo #3 Nebraska at Omaha in front of the biggest HCA in the country. Funny thing is that Nebraska has the season record to be a #3 seed. So they might very well fly in two teams top 10 teams to battle it out with the Huskers and the 17,000+ who will be screaming for the Huskers. Yeah, I've said for weeks that I expect the Nebraska regional to be the toughest, mainly because I expect Nebraska to be the most under-seeded. However, the losses by Washington and Ill may have the effect of moving Nebraska up in the seedings, thus making them less under-seeded, and perhaps balancing the brackets a bit better.
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Post by bigsouth on Nov 29, 2009 12:04:51 GMT -5
I don't think it would be a stretch to give Penn State (or Texas) the # 1 seed in the Gainesville region and make Florida State a 8 or 9 seed with Florida as a # 16 seed. There are very few teams in the Top 30 of the RPI from a driving distance to Gainesville. It would just make sense to drop FSU down to a 8/9 seed and leave them in that region. This would potentially give that region two teams local to draw a crowd for part of that regional, thus feeding the interest for the Final Four in Tampa.
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Post by austintatious on Nov 29, 2009 12:05:56 GMT -5
By the way, in a 5th set, how does one player get called for Net Violation on THREE of the first 4 points? I don't think I've ever seen anything that compares to that. Easy. 5th set, players are fatigued, lose mechanics, I assume it was a blocker? I assume you are not questioning the officiating? Net touches can be missed by officials, but are rarely made up if they did not happen.
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Post by Mocha on Nov 29, 2009 15:37:00 GMT -5
My guess is Penn State is rewarded by being sent to Gainesville, giving them the opportunity to catch a bus ride to Tampa and spend the entire week prior to the Final Four in the state of Florida. I called it! ;D
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Post by OverAndUnder on Nov 29, 2009 15:42:16 GMT -5
...screwed. UW losing and Stanford winning the Pac-10 presents a very interesting dynamic for the top 8 seeds and pairing. Hard not to give Stanford a top seed for winning the Pac-10 and a very high rpi....but...prior to this match it was called by many people to send the huskies to Nebraska, but for that to happen the huskies would need to be seeded 3rd and Nebraska 6th (which people thought would be possible) but with this loss it's hard to justify giving the huskies the three seed......the only seeding scenario that could really work would be to give the huskies/huskers 4/5...and I REALLY don't see that happening. The committee could royally screw the Pac-10 and send Washington to Stanford via Stanford #3 and UW #6 or a 4/5 matchup..... this would keep a lot of other things intact but be an outcry from the Pac-10 which is the strongest conference for their #1 and #2 to go to the same regional. Illinois, should they win at Minnesota tomorrow will probably get the last #1 seed....but where do you put them? Penn State can't go to Stanford....and Texas probably shouldn't go to Nebraska but when it all irons out I think that the committee is going to royally screw the Pac-10, or Penn State or Texas is going to Nebraska for regional or paired up with UW for regionals. Perhaps I'm missing something here but is there a legitimate seeding scenario that keep Washington out of Stanford, Penn State and Texas out of Nebrska, and PSU and Texas not matched with UW? ugh....my huskies created a mess. And thus did the ancient prophecies of ay2013 come to pass.... 
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Post by Guest on Nov 29, 2009 15:51:24 GMT -5
Well, I think it's pretty safe to say that all of us "will not happen"s and "can not happen"s, myself included, are all pretty dumbfounded and embarrassed right now.
Just when we think we have the committee all figured out, they send us a bracket like that...
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Post by lonewolf on Nov 29, 2009 15:56:57 GMT -5
Well, I think it's pretty safe to say that all of us "will not happen"s and "can not happen"s, myself included, are all pretty dumbfounded and embarrassed right now. Just when we think we have the committee all figured out, they send us a bracket like that... All of us crazy volleyball nerds are merely children when our insanity is compared to that of the Guru that is the committee.
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Post by jagdpanther on Nov 29, 2009 15:59:22 GMT -5
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Post by tenniscraze on Nov 29, 2009 16:42:23 GMT -5
Your prediction came true.. Texas and Nebraska in same regional
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Nov 29, 2009 17:06:26 GMT -5
Well, I think it's pretty safe to say that all of us "will not happen"s and "can not happen"s, myself included, are all pretty dumbfounded and embarrassed right now. Just when we think we have the committee all figured out, they send us a bracket like that... it happens every year ... you'll see
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Post by chipNdink on Nov 30, 2009 2:15:19 GMT -5
Well, I think it's pretty safe to say that all of us "will not happen"s and "can not happen"s, myself included, are all pretty dumbfounded and embarrassed right now. Just when we think we have the committee all figured out, they send us a bracket like that... So what were the "reasonable" excuses for screwing the Big-12 given by the committee in the post selection questions and answers session? Didn't you say they always have at least some sort of answers prepared to explain themselves?
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Post by Guest on Nov 30, 2009 2:40:16 GMT -5
Well, I think it's pretty safe to say that all of us "will not happen"s and "can not happen"s, myself included, are all pretty dumbfounded and embarrassed right now. Just when we think we have the committee all figured out, they send us a bracket like that... So what were the "reasonable" excuses for screwing the Big-12 given by the committee in the post selection questions and answers session? Didn't you say they always have at least some sort of answers prepared to explain themselves? I was not a part of the selection committee this season, so you'll have to email those who were. I have no idea though. I'll ask at the convention.
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