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Post by jcfan on Oct 24, 2010 16:59:46 GMT -5
Springfield and Sacred Heart each fielded an A and B squad but they were the only EIVA teams. True Palumbo didn't play. Didn't notice wjether or not Bravo played. UConn had a decent club team , Northeastern and some NY club teams were also there.
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Post by rs22 on Oct 25, 2010 14:51:37 GMT -5
I dont know if it's fair to mention Springfield in that "far cry" talk about the EIVA. I agree that that conference since Juniatas "wherle" days aren't what it used to be but it is hard to say that SC isn't a quality program. They produced the d3 player of the year last year to go along with 3 other all americans and none of those 4 players won mvp of the national championship match.....that's rediculious depth that any program could ask for. I do agree though that the conference as a whole is not what they used to be because it seems ineviteable that this year sc will be in naz defending their title again due to the lack of competition they have to face and their solid core that is returning. But it is hard to go against the EIVA when they have produced 10 straight national titles (no thanks to nyu). I also agree with you that naz isn't the team that will end the EIVA's streak (if anybody will that is). For the NECVA to knock them off I believe they better hope that Baruch doesn't choke.....again. My final 4 1- Springfield 2- Baruch 3- Carthage 4- Naz Easy to put carthage over naz for anybody who saw their at moltens last season.... Mostly to change the topic from Juniata and Springfield and to possibly stir up some controversy. I'm pointing out that Carthage was beaten 2 times by MSOE last year both were 3-0 sweeps and one was at Carthage for the conference championship, and lost to MIT. MSOE beat MIT when they won the MIT tournament in which Carthage did poorly. I'm just curious as to why Carthage is in the final four when they didn't even win their conference last year? |
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Post by Semp12 on Oct 25, 2010 17:10:17 GMT -5
I dont know if it's fair to mention Springfield in that "far cry" talk about the EIVA. I agree that that conference since Juniatas "wherle" days aren't what it used to be but it is hard to say that SC isn't a quality program. They produced the d3 player of the year last year to go along with 3 other all americans and none of those 4 players won mvp of the national championship match.....that's rediculious depth that any program could ask for. I do agree though that the conference as a whole is not what they used to be because it seems ineviteable that this year sc will be in naz defending their title again due to the lack of competition they have to face and their solid core that is returning. But it is hard to go against the EIVA when they have produced 10 straight national titles (no thanks to nyu). I also agree with you that naz isn't the team that will end the EIVA's streak (if anybody will that is). For the NECVA to knock them off I believe they better hope that Baruch doesn't choke.....again. My final 4 1- Springfield 2- Baruch 3- Carthage 4- Naz Easy to put carthage over naz for anybody who saw their at moltens last season.... Mostly to change the topic from Juniata and Springfield and to possibly stir up some controversy. I'm pointing out that Carthage was beaten 2 times by MSOE last year both were 3-0 sweeps and one was at Carthage for the conference championship, and lost to MIT. MSOE beat MIT when they won the MIT tournament in which Carthage did poorly. I'm just curious as to why Carthage is in the final four when they didn't even win their conference last year? Hmmm, new to the men's division 3 volleyball scene? The host school gets an auto bid for the Molten Tournament. |
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Post by johnebb on Oct 25, 2010 17:32:44 GMT -5
think there's been a couple of tourneys down South in Oct, one at Pfeiffer I think with club team from Carolina, UNC-Charlotte, MOC split squad won one, don't know where the other site was.
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Post by rs22 on Oct 26, 2010 9:33:53 GMT -5
Mostly to change the topic from Juniata and Springfield and to possibly stir up some controversy. I'm pointing out that Carthage was beaten 2 times by MSOE last year both were 3-0 sweeps and one was at Carthage for the conference championship, and lost to MIT. MSOE beat MIT when they won the MIT tournament in which Carthage did poorly. I'm just curious as to why Carthage is in the final four when they didn't even win their conference last year? Hmmm, new to the men's division 3 volleyball scene? The host school gets an auto bid for the Molten Tournament. I'm not new to division 3 volleyball. Carthage is not hosting this year nazareth is. |
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Post by Semp12 on Oct 26, 2010 10:54:22 GMT -5
Hmmm, new to the men's division 3 volleyball scene? The host school gets an auto bid for the Molten Tournament. I'm not new to division 3 volleyball. Carthage is not hosting this year nazareth is. My mistake. I kind of breezed through reading it and how you said it, seemed like you meant last year Carthage should not have made it. |
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Post by novert on Oct 27, 2010 6:36:15 GMT -5
Hmmm, new to the men's division 3 volleyball scene? The host school gets an auto bid for the Molten Tournament. I'm not new to division 3 volleyball. Carthage is not hosting this year nazareth is. rs22 (Max) I think people are saying that typically Carthage is stronger than MSOE. Carthage graduated none of their starting 7, MSOE graduated 3 starters (both OH and setter). Carthage got a pass to the Molten by hosting (smart move on their part), especially since if it was hosted out east they and MSOE would not have been in at all. UCSC received the bid! They also proved they belonged there by beating NAZ. Yes MSOE beat Carthage twice, Carthage did beat NAZ twice late in the season, NAZ beat MSOE late as well. Could MSOE have had the same result in the Molten as Carthage, Maybe... Never know..... We all know that the current format is not "Fair", if you guys want in the molten, Beat Carthage again and UCSC and its a no brainer. Carthage |
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Post by novert1 on Oct 27, 2010 6:44:38 GMT -5
sorry not everything posted.......
Carthage will have to earn their way in , MSOE needs to prove they can play again this year after big graduation. UCSC will have to deal with mass graduation and the loss of a GREAT COACH. Carthage on paper has the advantage to get in, ON PAPER.
Time will tell.
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Post by rs22 on Oct 27, 2010 18:58:39 GMT -5
I'm not new to division 3 volleyball. Carthage is not hosting this year nazareth is. rs22 (Max) I think people are saying that typically Carthage is stronger than MSOE. Carthage graduated none of their starting 7, MSOE graduated 3 starters (both OH and setter). Carthage got a pass to the Molten by hosting (smart move on their part), especially since if it was hosted out east they and MSOE would not have been in at all. UCSC received the bid! They also proved they belonged there by beating NAZ. Yes MSOE beat Carthage twice, Carthage did beat NAZ twice late in the season, NAZ beat MSOE late as well. Could MSOE have had the same result in the Molten as Carthage, Maybe... Never know..... We all know that the current format is not "Fair", if you guys want in the molten, Beat Carthage again and UCSC and its a no brainer. Carthage We will see. I completely agree that this whole system is unfair and can't wait until next year and the NCAA tournament. |
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Post by oh13 on Oct 28, 2010 0:27:52 GMT -5
Good points defending MSOE. I picked Carthage just from their Molten performence and because they didn't lose anybody after gaining that valuable experience.
Unfair or not the system seems to every year get it right! Wonna be a national champ? then don't take a single game off!!!
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Post by bouncehouse12 on Nov 5, 2010 15:04:30 GMT -5
I also heard that Sacred Heart looked much improved but also heard that Springfield didn't have Bravo or Palumbo play the entire day (no idea if they were even there or what the deal was)......Sullivan seems to have his team ready to go if they are already taking down d1 competition without argueably 2 of their best players. Any other teams been playing this fall?! Thanksgiving weekend, Carthage each year makes a trip to play at IPFW, along with Quincy, Ball State and IPFW. |
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Post by chicago on Nov 5, 2010 16:51:10 GMT -5
Thanksgiving weekend, Carthage each year makes a trip to play at IPFW, along with Quincy, Ball State and IPFW. Is this open to the public? |
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Post by justagameright on Nov 5, 2010 18:44:59 GMT -5
Thanksgiving weekend, Carthage each year makes a trip to play at IPFW, along with Quincy, Ball State and IPFW. Is this open to the public? Yes it is. |
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Post by compsys on Nov 7, 2010 21:28:39 GMT -5
Naz is hosting a "Preview to the Final Four" in a couple weeks. It is usually a D1 event with teams like Penn State, Loyola, IPFW, etc. but with the new preseason traveling rule, it is now a D3 event. It will be with Naz, Baurch, Medaille, and Junaita www.pacebootlegger.com/pdf/2010/Final4Poster10.pdf |
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Post by bouncehouse12 on Nov 10, 2010 13:50:11 GMT -5
I dont know if it's fair to mention Springfield in that "far cry" talk about the EIVA. I agree that that conference since Juniatas "wherle" days aren't what it used to be but it is hard to say that SC isn't a quality program. They produced the d3 player of the year last year to go along with 3 other all americans and none of those 4 players won mvp of the national championship match.....that's rediculious depth that any program could ask for. I do agree though that the conference as a whole is not what they used to be because it seems ineviteable that this year sc will be in naz defending their title again due to the lack of competition they have to face and their solid core that is returning. But it is hard to go against the EIVA when they have produced 10 straight national titles (no thanks to nyu). I also agree with you that naz isn't the team that will end the EIVA's streak (if anybody will that is). For the NECVA to knock them off I believe they better hope that Baruch doesn't choke.....again. My final 4 1- Springfield 2- Baruch 3- Carthage 4- Naz Easy to put carthage over naz for anybody who saw their at moltens last season.... Mostly to change the topic from Juniata and Springfield and to possibly stir up some controversy. I'm pointing out that Carthage was beaten 2 times by MSOE last year both were 3-0 sweeps and one was at Carthage for the conference championship, and lost to MIT. MSOE beat MIT when they won the MIT tournament in which Carthage did poorly. I'm just curious as to why Carthage is in the final four when they didn't even win their conference last year? Eh man, if you know this conference well Carthage knocks the crap out of MSOE every year, so one year MSOE is able to beat them twice doesn't mean the following season is shot. Carthage returns an almost full line up with both middles matt yanz and tyler frings , randy hansen at outside who is a phenomenal athlete. MSOE has talented players don't get me wrong but one marvelous season doesn't write the story for the following season. |
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