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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 9:46:13 GMT -5
As impressed as I was with McClure last year, I just can't imagine benching an apparent phenom like Kipp. OK, maybe this will be middle-based team (strange to say this with Plummer and Fitzmorris on it), and passing is key to such a plan, but I've known a lot of dames, but Kipp looks like something really special (here I'm quoting from "Play it Again Sam"). Ah Hell, I just want to see what she can do. BTW, I'm not crazy about redshirting, but, if I were coaching, I might broach the subject to Baird. I would redshirt as many of the freshman as possible. Baird, Berty, Vicini, Xu (I realize she is the second setter, but Oregon pulled it off last year)...even Kipp if she doesn't play a prominent role. Chang also redshirted last year so she could play as a grad student this year. Both Lutz and Vanjak redshirted 2013. I wouldn’t be against redshirting as many of them as possible as I’ve stated before here.
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Post by bigjohn043 on Aug 26, 2019 12:02:51 GMT -5
Campbell and Gates both shinning This, IMO, is why McClure gets the nod over Kipp. If the middles were truly shining as much as is being reported, you’ve got to have the passing to set them. Someone mentioned that blocking is the toughest skill for freshman, and I agree. But I think Campbell arrived already a pretty good blocker. And by the end of last season, her offensive production was catching up (see championship match). Now what if she has a similar jump from freshman to sophomore year as McClure had? Now add a former 2nd team AA in Gates. Get them the ball, and man that’s really opening things up for the pin hitters! Maybe im a little biased because in my heyday I was a 6’ leaping OH2 with ball control surrounded by giants, but McClure’s skill set just fits with this team. If/when she struggles offensively, Hambly has one hell of a sub to bring in with Kipp. And he can have a very short leash if he wants. But if I’m him, I’m starting things off with McClure. I think you make an important point. McClure is particularly valuable to this specific team. On the international level Plummer plays OPP. Is this because she is better hitter from the right than the left? No, it is because in international volleyball there aren't the same subs and the OHs both have to pass six rotations. Plummer is not a good enough passer to do that. At Stanford it sort of works. McClure & Hentz pass six rotations and Formico passes three. Plummer only has to pass three, she can be squeezed and if she starts shanking they just move her our of the rotation. You do not want Plummer to have to pass six rotations where she can be consistently targeted. That is why McClure is so valuable. She lets Plummer play on the left and clean up so many plays......
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Post by stanfordvb on Aug 26, 2019 13:37:29 GMT -5
I think McClure is a very good supporting player. She makes very few errors, and plays differently than what Stanford is known for. She isn't a super tall and powerful pin hitter. It's good to have her in because teams have to scout and prepare for more than just a heavy hitter. She tools well, hits the corners and has good shots. She keeps teams on their toes because she a completely different style than the rest of her team.
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Post by Cruz'n on Aug 26, 2019 15:18:01 GMT -5
I would redshirt as many of the freshman as possible. Baird, Berty, Vicini, Xu (I realize she is the second setter, but Oregon pulled it off last year)...even Kipp if she doesn't play a prominent role. Chang also redshirted last year so she could play as a grad student this year. Both Lutz and Vanjak redshirted 2013. I wouldn’t be against redshirting as many of them as possible as I’ve stated before here. Chang redshirted as a favor to Chang. Lutz and Vanjak were green, and it was a benefit to both players and to the team to have them practice with the team (and hit the weight room) for a year before seeing playing time. None of the three players could have helped the Card the years they red-shirted. This year the situation is completely different. It still benefits the freshman to practice for a year before playing actual matches; and there is the advantage of an extra year of eligibility. However, pretty much all of them could impact a match right now. I'm sure a lot of thought is going into these decisions, as well as conversations with each individual player about her plans, wishes, etc. It will be interesting to see what transpires. With Xu, I would want to red-shirt her, since the setter position is locked up. Xu has a nice serve, but is it worth losing a year of her setting for that? But then again, is her position guaranteed as starter for next 3-4 years? And what is Xu's opinion? Perhaps she really doesn't want to red-shirt. In that case, Hambly has another serving specialist. The other freshmen could all impact a match right away, but likely none of them would be starters. Do you gamble that there won't be any injuries? Or even someone having a bad cold for a week? I definitely wouldn't red-shirt Kipp. I would absolutely be starting McClure, but it seems inevitable that Kipp will be seeing playing time. I would also not red-shirt Vicini, so as to keep depth ready at middle. Otherwise, Hambly would have to shuffle for depth, which is doable, but more disruptive. Baird and Berty are definitely good candidates for red-shirting, depending on what they want. That is my two cents.
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Post by vbsam16 on Aug 26, 2019 15:53:18 GMT -5
Fidelak hits on the right, those 6 girls are all listed as OHs Yeah, but Plummer looked slotted in on the right once upon a time, and how long has it been since Stanford played with a 6'1"RS? Fidelak is left handed though, so I'm sure they're less inclined to move her to OH.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 16:02:50 GMT -5
Chang also redshirted last year so she could play as a grad student this year. Both Lutz and Vanjak redshirted 2013. I wouldn’t be against redshirting as many of them as possible as I’ve stated before here. Chang redshirted as a favor to Chang. Lutz and Vanjak were green, and it was a benefit to both players and to the team to have them practice with the team (and hit the weight room) for a year before seeing playing time. None of the three players could have helped the Card the years they red-shirted. This year the situation is completely different. It still benefits the freshman to practice for a year before playing actual matches; and there is the advantage of an extra year of eligibility. However, pretty much all of them could impact a match right now. I'm sure a lot of thought is going into these decisions, as well as conversations with each individual player about her plans, wishes, etc. It will be interesting to see what transpires. With Xu, I would want to red-shirt her, since the setter position is locked up. Xu has a nice serve, but is it worth losing a year of her setting for that? But then again, is her position guaranteed as starter for next 3-4 years? And what is Xu's opinion? Perhaps she really doesn't want to red-shirt. In that case, Hambly has another serving specialist. The other freshmen could all impact a match right away, but likely none of them would be starters. Do you gamble that there won't be any injuries? Or even someone having a bad cold for a week? I definitely wouldn't red-shirt Kipp. I would absolutely be starting McClure, but it seems inevitable that Kipp will be seeing playing time. I would also not red-shirt Vicini, so as to keep depth ready at middle. Otherwise, Hambly would have to shuffle for depth, which is doable, but more disruptive. Baird and Berty are definitely good candidates for red-shirting, depending on what they want. That is my two cents. Re: Chang, I know. I said she redshirted so she could play this year. Stanford didn’t need her unless Gray went down and I’m sure she would have gladly finished her playing career in 2018 if that were the case. I’m not really disagreeing with any of your points, but I’m ignorant to the redshirting process. Do they have to be declared by a certain date or something? If none of the freshman, or say Fidelak saw the court in 2019 could they then just claim redshirt status?
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Post by bobbk on Aug 26, 2019 16:25:16 GMT -5
The rule is four years to play in Five year period. No declaration needed If injury all different
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2019 16:27:39 GMT -5
The rule is four years to play in Five year period. No declaration needed If injury all different Let’s say Berty doesn’t see the court at all in 2019, she can just decide whenever that she redshirted that year then?
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Post by pdxcardfan on Aug 26, 2019 17:25:36 GMT -5
Campbell and Gates both shinning But I think Campbell arrived already a pretty good blocker. And by the end of last season, her offensive production was catching up (see championship match). I liked your comment about Campbell. I re-watched that championship match a couple of weeks ago and thought she was the difference-maker (along with service aces). On the season she hit .292. That night she was at .483. A big and welcome jump in efficiency and I'm hoping that's a taste of things to come.
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Post by stanfordvb on Aug 26, 2019 20:22:01 GMT -5
The rule is four years to play in Five year period. No declaration needed If injury all different Let’s say Berty doesn’t see the court at all in 2019, she can just decide whenever that she redshirted that year then? Yes. You don't have to tell anyone that ur red shirting ur player necessarily. If berty were to not see the court than she would still have 4 years of eligibility left.
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Post by southeastvbfan on Aug 27, 2019 7:22:13 GMT -5
The rule is four years to play in Five year period. No declaration needed If injury all different With injury they will sometimes grant an exemption to play a sixth year, right? I don't know the rules required to make that happen, but have heard of it in rared cases in the past. Yes, but I think it depends on the conference and situation. I had a high school classmate play soccer at UGA and she tore her ACL twice and was able to play 6 years. Used the 6th year to get her Master's.
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Post by tnp101 on Aug 27, 2019 18:58:09 GMT -5
So the first match if the season is 3 days away. I had to go back and watch Stanford vs. BYU in the FF4 one more time to get myself excited for this season. Can't wait to see who will start. I'll say the same lineup with the addition of Gates to replace Alade.
So will there be a free streaming to watch the first game?
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Post by stanfordvb on Aug 27, 2019 19:37:47 GMT -5
So the first match if the season is 3 days away. I had to go back and watch Stanford vs. BYU in the FF4 one more time to get myself excited for this season. Can't wait to see who will start. I'll say the same lineup with the addition of Gates to replace Alade. So will there be a free streaming to watch the first game? I juts finished rewatching that game. That may be the dingle greatest match I've ever seen a libero play. Even march was amazed by hentz, who he is slightly critical of.
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Post by trydelt10 on Aug 27, 2019 21:31:25 GMT -5
So the first match if the season is 3 days away. I had to go back and watch Stanford vs. BYU in the FF4 one more time to get myself excited for this season. Can't wait to see who will start. I'll say the same lineup with the addition of Gates to replace Alade. So will there be a free streaming to watch the first game? I juts finished rewatching that game. That may be the dingle greatest match I've ever seen a libero play. Even march was amazed by hentz, who he is slightly critical of. He was searching the bottom of the barrel trying to find criticisms for Hentz that match haha
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Post by Cruz'n on Aug 27, 2019 22:32:17 GMT -5
So the first match if the season is 3 days away. I had to go back and watch Stanford vs. BYU in the FF4 one more time to get myself excited for this season. Can't wait to see who will start. I'll say the same lineup with the addition of Gates to replace Alade. So will there be a free streaming to watch the first game? I juts finished rewatching that game. That may be the dingle greatest match I've ever seen a libero play. Even march was amazed by hentz, who he is slightly critical of. You mean March Miraly?
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