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Post by VBbeast on Feb 12, 2007 11:54:03 GMT -5
A couple notes. I think you will find the upper echelon teams are siding out somewhere above 60%. Anything below that and you aren't winning matches against good teams.
Relative to scoring the serve I would suggest it would be very difficult to do accurately. A generic numeric formula will not necessarily accurately reflect the quality of the serve. We have all see some guy bomb a jumper that a passer makes a great pass on. Does that make it a poor serve? How many times have you seen some guy totally mi%*$# a ball that some passer gorks into the stands. Does that make it a good serve?
I would like to see a stat added that distinguished "in system" attemps and "out of system" attempts. Just looking at that would give you a pretty good general idea who was serving well and who was passing well.
Finally the one point I'm not sure anybody has pointed out regarding the service error is that early on in the match it is not always a bad thing particularly agains a team with good offensive ability. It is hard to get into a good sideout rythm if you aren't getting a chance to run some plays. Its kind of like in match play golf where the first 15 holes you concede your opponents putt, and then force him to make his putts the last 3 holes without the benefit of previous "warm up" attempts. Tiger Woods won his last US Amatuer title doing exactly that.
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Post by Mac on Feb 12, 2007 12:02:18 GMT -5
I'd like to see a PoS stat = Points off the Serve. That's an important stat that is ignored.
If you lollipop the ball over to the opponent in the men's D1 game the odds are the receiving team will win the point. It's important to disrupt their offensive flow by making that serve receive tough to set. Most coaches don't mind giving up a few serve errors as long as you're on the positive side of serving. You do have to consider the opponent and their propensity to score, and you have to serve smart depending on the situation. I mean, if you're behind by a couple at game point and you're not "on" tonight don't try to serve an ace. Most good players have different serves... hard, floaters, change ups... depending on how they're playing and depending on the conditions.
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Post by Mac on Feb 12, 2007 14:47:26 GMT -5
Here's what good serving can do in a match, with a combination of a little skill and a lot of luck, you can turn a game completely around. An ace (or better, three in a row) is a daggar to the opponent. "With the help of its back row chasing down balls and digging bullets, Pacific was able to take a 2-1 game lead on the Bruins. And just when UCLA looked to be down and out, coach Al Scates let freshman setter Kevin Ker take the wheel of the offense in game four. "I had Kevin watching their middle blockers and reporting to me what they were doing during the match so that when he got in there, he knew what they were doing," Scates said. "He was ready to play, that's for sure." Down 18-14 as the end of the match loomed, Ker served up three aces to bring the Bruins back into contention. The first, a bullet, the second, a lunge and a near miss, and the third, a sinker, all aided in spurring on the Bruin comeback. "Incredible serving," Scates remarked. "If not for those three aces, we would have lost that game. He did a great job." www.dailybruin.com/news/2007/feb/12/heart_carries_bruins_long_match/
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Post by lalalaluuuke on Feb 12, 2007 16:09:08 GMT -5
I really like that input Mac. Serving is vital. I hate to beat a dead horse, but UCI, by just getting their serves in vs. BYU the 2nd night, forced so much to happen. They went from a 3 game sweep to a 5 game win. It all started by keeping their serves in and giving their defense a chance.
Remember LBSU vs. BYU in the 2004 final? Beach up 10-6 in game 5? Don't ever say comebacks aren't possible in rally-scoring. I've seen them happen several times, you just have to give your defense a chance by serving the ball inside those lines.
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