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Post by roy on Mar 14, 2007 16:56:09 GMT -5
I have bad news for you prouddad. In order to make playoffs this year, teams will need at least 10 league wins. And even then, by the end of the season, teams may need 11 league wins, so: If CSUN wins 2, UH can "run the table," and they are done. If CSUN wins 1, UH will need to "run the table," just to have a chance... but, like I said, it maybe too late at that point. UH needs to win 2 against CSUN, then "run the table." In order to guarantee playoffs. Not really. 8 wins should be enough to get really close to play off. Consider that Stanford and UCSD are not going to make the play offs. USC, Hawaii, and Long Beach are fighting for that last spot. But Long Beach’s only “easy” matches are against USC and Hawaii who are also fighting for that last spot. They have matches against Pepperdine, UCI, UCLA, and two matches with BYU. USC’s easy matches are one match with Stanford, Long Beach, and UCSD. But they still have UCSB, Northridge, UCI, and UCLA. After Northridge, Hawaii has UCSD and Stanford, along with Long Beach. Not counting the matches against each other, assuming they win all their easy matches, USC and Hawaii will have 7 wins and Long Beach will have 6. So, it may come down to the wins against each other as well as hoping to upset one of the upper teams.
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Post by thor on Mar 15, 2007 23:40:39 GMT -5
I just heard that the setter sean carney has been moved to play leftside hitter. What the hell is going on in that program? what happens if beckwith plays bad or gets injured? And even more, who just lost spots on the top court since kalima is also a leftside now?
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Post by aaronic on Mar 15, 2007 23:56:05 GMT -5
I just heard that the setter sean carney has been moved to play leftside hitter. What the hell is going on in that program? what happens if beckwith plays bad or gets injured? And even more, who just lost spots on the top court since kalima is also a leftside now? Hello!!1 We've been saying it all along... it's the coaching staff!!! It makes me so irritated how the AD can choose not renegotiate a contract for Wallace, yet he can for the senile- Wilton. At least Cervantes looks to be moving back to L.
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Post by bunnywailer on Mar 16, 2007 0:16:09 GMT -5
In order to make playoffs this year, teams will need at least 10 league wins. And even then, by the end of the season, teams may need 11 league wins, so: When did the MPSF change the criteria for making the tournament? Last time I checked, all you had to do was finish at least 8th out of 12 teams in the league to make the playoffs. Number of wins was irrelevant.
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Post by wholeinone04 on Mar 16, 2007 2:32:57 GMT -5
or finish 9th for the play-in game...
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Post by roy on Mar 16, 2007 13:00:09 GMT -5
or finish 9th for the play-in game... The play in game is for 7th and 8th place. The top seed gets an off week to promote the tournament at their venue. The 7th and 8th place team will face off and then take on the 2nd seed.
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Post by volleyfred on Mar 16, 2007 14:11:34 GMT -5
In order to make playoffs this year, teams will need at least 10 league wins. And even then, by the end of the season, teams may need 11 league wins, so: When did the MPSF change the criteria for making the tournament? Last time I checked, all you had to do was finish at least 8th out of 12 teams in the league to make the playoffs. Number of wins was irrelevant. Are you kidding? I bet you thought, "what an idiot" when you were writing your post, but... With all of the teams, who they each have left to play, I was approximating the amount of wins a team needs to get into playoffs. This year I believe a team will need to get 10 wins in comparison to the other teams to get into the 6th, 7th, or 8th spot. If you look at the other posts, Roy approximated that a team would need 8 wins to get into playoffs. Also, number of wins is not irrelevant, your place in league is based almost completely on it. A team needs to have the same as (then a tie breaker) or more than the 8th team in league to get into playoffs. This way, next time there is a discussion about playoffs, you will know the lingo. For example, most people who understand volleyball don't use the word "bump" anymore. So if another word is used (like "pass") don't correct someone using "pass" in place of "bump."
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Post by thor on Mar 16, 2007 21:36:22 GMT -5
If that is the case and the constant change is hurting the warriors, is there something anyone can do about it? It would be a shame to see such a prestigious program suffer because of just a few people. Hasn't this happened in the past also?
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Post by bunnywailer on Mar 16, 2007 23:37:45 GMT -5
When did the MPSF change the criteria for making the tournament? Last time I checked, all you had to do was finish at least 8th out of 12 teams in the league to make the playoffs. Number of wins was irrelevant. Are you kidding? No. Nope. Obviously, your approximations are off, and what you believe about qualifying for the MPSF tournament doesn't matter. Well, that's because Roy (unlike you) actually knows what he is talking about. He's well-versed in men's volleyball and a respected contributor on this forum for many years. You aren't. Almost completely? Are you a math major? Good lord, thanks. I'm such a relative newcomer to men's college ball. I need lots of help. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) Well, we still call it "bump" when we play picnic ball at the park on Sundays during our family barbeque, I don't care what you say Mr. Almighty MPSF Badass Men's College Volleyball Expert.
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Post by volleyfred on Mar 17, 2007 7:42:36 GMT -5
In order to make playoffs this year, teams will need at least 10 league wins. And even then, by the end of the season, teams may need 11 league wins, so: When did the MPSF change the criteria for making the tournament? Last time I checked, all you had to do was finish at least 8th out of 12 teams in the league to make the playoffs. Number of wins was irrelevant. Let me quote this one again, because you just didn't get it. If you are going to make a statement like... "When did the MPSF change the criteria for making the tournament? Last time I checked, all you had to do was finish at least 8th out of 12 teams in the league to make the playoffs. Number of wins was irrelevant." You are going to get a response. First, it didn't, the criteria is the same. Second, where and what were you checking? Because... Third, number of wins is very relevant to your rank going into playoffs. Come to think of it, that would be kind of interesting. I kind of see where you are going with the whole wins are irrelevant thing. I can picture it. "Hey Ken, you guys up there at UCSB haven't been #1 in a while so why don't you just take the BYE in the first round of playoffs... After all, the number of wins are irrelevant! Thanks Al! You guys down there in Westwood sure have won some championships. That was real nice of you. But now the question is, who should we exclude this year?" Are you sure you weren't kidding? You see, your rank, as an MPSF team is based on the number of wins you have. Wins are very relevant. It's not just given to you in some arbitrary way, or decided upon over some beers. Sometimes, when it's tricky, two teams have the same number of wins, and the rank is decided by a tie breaker. Next time you quote and respond to a post, and you may not have said exactly what you meant, just make another post about what you meant, or don't respond at all. No one can see you, this is writing on the net. I will say that your numerous quotes were neat. I showed my kids, they appreciated the hard work. But it was good to teach them a lesson. If you make a mistake and say some obvious non-sense, just move on. There is no need to get sensitive and upset. It's like volleyball. Make a mistake, move on. Don't blame the set or the refs. Move on. Oh and UH won tonight, they are now closer to getting enough wins to make playoffs. Which still should be 10. We'll see!
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Post by LowVBIQ on Mar 17, 2007 9:26:28 GMT -5
Volleyfred, you had better build a 'fall-out' shelter because when 38 Skynyrd gets up...
DUCK!
One serious question. Why doesn't Jimbo Clar get at least a chance on the court? He seems to have great leadership and he is so focused that it is contagious. I miss him!
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Post by bunnywailer on Mar 17, 2007 11:41:36 GMT -5
Volleyfreida isn't worth my time. Just the newest hot-shot who wants to impress upon the men's board his vast knowledge of expertise of the men's college game.
The part about "I showed my kids..." is funny, though. Meant to belittle me and such. Doesn't work. Everyone already knows I'm an idiot.
But, obviously, I got under volleyfran's skin enough that:
1. He had to show my post to his kids in the first place (are these real kids or imaginary internet kids used for effect?)
2. He had to use it as an object lesson in god-knows-what. Some kind of morality play that makes him feel good about himself and, in some way, superior to me. Great, good, carry-on, toodle-do, off you go!
3. He feels the need to "teach" me how to make better posts.
I think in the interest of volleyfay's self-esteem issues, we should all nod and go "Ahhhh...that's right..." everytime he posts his vast knowledge on the men's board or corrects idiots like me when we post ambiguously.
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Post by volleyfred on Mar 17, 2007 16:08:16 GMT -5
Everyone already knows I'm an idiot. That was all you had to say.
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Post by bunnywailer on Mar 17, 2007 19:29:07 GMT -5
Everyone already knows I'm an idiot. That was all you had to say. Ah! That's right! *nods*
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Post by sexy on Mar 17, 2007 20:59:12 GMT -5
I just heard that the setter sean carney has been moved to play leftside hitter. What the hell is going on in that program? what happens if beckwith plays bad or gets injured? And even more, who just lost spots on the top court since kalima is also a leftside now? i am still wondering what happened with clar -- he was playing so well but now no playing time ![>:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/angry.png)
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