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Post by kcvolleyball on Apr 10, 2012 20:27:59 GMT -5
The heckling was awful throughout the tourney. The worst has to be Cal Poly. I wasn't there for Las Vegas but my understanding is they were awful to UCSB beyond understanding. My understanding they were yelling about the players sexual orientation, physical characteristics. At Kansas City, one of their B team players wearing a Mustang mask ran onto the court during a Cal timeout and hit one of the Cal players. Someone could have gotten hurt, and the Cal Poly parents, fans, coach's, thought it was funny and did nothing. Instead of yelling for their team they were heckling the same type fo things at the Cal players as they did to the UCSB players. They even wear printed shirts that says "yes, we heckle" which shows the lack of sportsmanship. They should pull the chairs to the side two rows deep and let the back of the serving line be vacant so any contact or verbal abuse isn't within 12 inches of the players. Sad for sportsmanship! Heckling is one thing, but when it resorts to personal attacks, it shows the true nature of the person doing the "heckling" |
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Post by willie on Apr 10, 2012 23:24:37 GMT -5
Omar is a great coach and took a team really far. I was wondering 2 players that were starters the last 3 years a middle sometimes played outside. Also, a outside hitter with a lethal jump serve. I was told his sister was a All American at Penn State someone told me at a Cal match this season.
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Post by rogero1 on Apr 11, 2012 3:59:47 GMT -5
I agree they need to keep fans back. I've seen that done to other teams as well. The ref should tell the fans to get back or maybe set up the courts to where fans can't touch players before their serve. Both are hard to do. No matter what the team, fans should not be able to touch players. The past two finals had security & the other refs circle the court to prevent any fans from storming the court. Looks like the barriers that were set up didn't prevent the fans from getting up close to the players. |
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Post by gobears on Apr 11, 2012 9:57:34 GMT -5
Cal's Evan Walbridge with the lethal jump serve ( sister Melissa All American @ PSU ) was not able to play this year. We look forward to his return to the team for his senior year in the fall.
MB/OH 3 years Abhinav/Abhi Janghala team president graduated in December. pre med.
We miss him!
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Post by oshkoshdadmjs on Apr 11, 2012 11:41:35 GMT -5
Best part of the tournament you ask? When #1 on UCF told the UCSB girls who were heckling him after being asked about who was the pitcher and catcher between him and anther guy on his team, "I'm the pitcher and you're the catcher." Then promptly fake jerked off in her face, turned around and got an ace. Thats swag. On an end note from Oshkoshdadmjs, lol at Kitchell and *explicative* those Illinois *explicatives* www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oMmoTzBNmI |
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Post by pancakepro64 on Apr 11, 2012 15:58:53 GMT -5
I have watched a lot of very good volleyball being played at a high level for many years now. I have watched as the rivalry between Oshkosh and Illinois has heated up where parents and players alike act like complete asses when they meet. I have seen the same at Vegas and Nationals from some of the California teams.
I thought the Illinois parents were the worst fans I have ever seen until the last few years. The Oshkosh parents have taken it to a new level of being obnoxious fans.
I absolutely agree with a few of the earlier comments that the fans are way to close to the players on the last day of the national tournamet. I have watched as Fans / Parents try to influence the game by maliciously distracting players.
The NCVF must look to address this quickly or I will predict fights breaking out very soon.
I enjoy watching people cheer for their team and even heckle in good taste but let's let the players play the game that they love without influence and let the chips fall where they may.
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Post by vballer4life on Apr 11, 2012 18:12:04 GMT -5
Best part of the tournament you ask? When #1 on UCF told the UCSB girls who were heckling him after being asked about who was the pitcher and catcher between him and anther guy on his team, "I'm the pitcher and you're the catcher." Then promptly fake jerked off in her face, turned around and got an ace. Thats swag. Haha that's funny. Wish I would of seen that. |
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Post by socalfan09 on Apr 11, 2012 19:58:04 GMT -5
I totally agree! Osh Kosh & Illinois were OUT OF CONTROL!! Why not cheer on your own team instead of screaming through a megaphone everything from profanity to questioning players sexual orientation! What the heck?? & really...what kind of example are the parents setting!?! Show some class...cheer on your team & may the better (and classier) team win!!
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Post by benchmob21 on Apr 11, 2012 20:10:43 GMT -5
Just because the fans of a team are unclassy, doesn't mean the parents or the team playing is not classy. I think on and off the court OshKosh and Illinois are classy teams. An unclassy team that I saw was Fresno State. They complained about a lot of calls that were clearly in favor of Ohio State in their match. They did not take their loss well. But then again, teams become unclassy after they lose. Then they get hammered.
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Post by lionsarm on Apr 11, 2012 20:17:29 GMT -5
I have watched a lot of very good volleyball being played at a high level for many years now. I have watched as the rivalry between Oshkosh and Illinois has heated up where parents and players alike act like complete asses when they meet. I have seen the same at Vegas and Nationals from some of the California teams. I thought the Illinois parents were the worst fans I have ever seen until the last few years. The Oshkosh parents have taken it to a new level of being obnoxious fans. i have to say, when you mention "high level" then talk about club programs and the ways in which players/parents act... it kinda threw me off. i don't doubt that illinois/oshkosh or any team in club who despises each other play a competitive match... but high level? high level isn't just about the level of play, it's also professionalism and maturity. i don't mean to insult your level of volleyball understanding, but i think the entire culture of heckling, staring players down, parents acting less than mature adults, constructs a ceiling as to how great a player/team can become. high level is both skill AND how you respect/approach the game. i've seen world class players from brazil play against the u.s. national team in tulsa during an intense exchange of play for set point and apologize to rich lambourne for hitting a ball high that struck his shoulder. or giba/murilo/sergio all signaling in when ryan millar hit a 1 for game point. little things like that show you how these players approach the game and where within the context of volleyball they locate competition. so long as young players, whether in high school/club/college club and beyond exemplify the in-your-face douche bag mentality on the court, no matter how great one may think he is, he'll always have a much narrower ceiling of development than a comparable humble player who respects the game. |
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Post by kcvolleyball on Apr 11, 2012 22:39:54 GMT -5
I have watched a lot of very good volleyball being played at a high level for many years now. I have watched as the rivalry between Oshkosh and Illinois has heated up where parents and players alike act like complete asses when they meet. I have seen the same at Vegas and Nationals from some of the California teams. I thought the Illinois parents were the worst fans I have ever seen until the last few years. The Oshkosh parents have taken it to a new level of being obnoxious fans. i have to say, when you mention "high level" then talk about club programs and the ways in which players/parents act... it kinda threw me off. i don't doubt that illinois/oshkosh or any team in club who despises each other play a competitive match... but high level? high level isn't just about the level of play, it's also professionalism and maturity. i don't mean to insult your level of volleyball understanding, but i think the entire culture of heckling, staring players down, parents acting less than mature adults, constructs a ceiling as to how great a player/team can become. high level is both skill AND how you respect/approach the game. i've seen world class players from brazil play against the u.s. national team in tulsa during an intense exchange of play for set point and apologize to rich lambourne for hitting a ball high that struck his shoulder. or giba/murilo/sergio all signaling in when ryan millar hit a 1 for game point. little things like that show you how these players approach the game and where within the context of volleyball they locate competition. so long as young players, whether in high school/club/college club and beyond exemplify the in-your-face douche bag mentality on the court, no matter how great one may think he is, he'll always have a much narrower ceiling of development than a comparable humble player who respects the game. well stated in my opinion. |
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Post by vballchamps on Apr 12, 2012 0:22:26 GMT -5
For D2 La Crosse has been in the finals the last three years and has won the last two. Does anyone think they should be moving up to D1??
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Post by amurica on Apr 12, 2012 1:45:52 GMT -5
Back to what the goldenbearsfan was talking about. Heckling is part of the game. If you can't handle it then don't play at all. Your kid is in college now, which means they are an adult. Im pretty sure they can handle it on their own and don't need their parent intervening. This isn't under 16 vball. It's all fun a games for the players. Being a player, out on the it is funny to hear what people say. None of the heckling is true. Their just trying to get in the other players head for the benefit of the other team. What do you expect when you're a parent coming to a college club nationals. It's not like everyone is gonna sit quietly on the sideline. If the heckling bothers you then STAY AWAY FROM THE TOURNAMENTS!!
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Post by backrow26 on Apr 12, 2012 11:00:49 GMT -5
You have to accept the tournament for what it is--college kids having Fun. This is an extension of spring break, and obnoxious in your face confrontations are there. You can either(and should) laugh at it or not come to the tournament. I have to laugh when I see a new parent show up for the tournament, thinking the tournament will be like Junior nationals and their first experience are the T shirts some of the women's teams wear. What fun would a tournament be if you did not end up hating the Oshkosh team and fans?
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Post by psuvbfan10 on Apr 12, 2012 21:54:37 GMT -5
For D2 La Crosse has been in the finals the last three years and has won the last two. Does anyone think they should be moving up to D1?? There have been a few DII teams who have had good runs. Providence, Ohio Northern are usually top Div II teams & I think each has won before. I don't know if they should move up being a small college club program. |
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