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Jan 20, 2012 13:13:21 GMT -5
Post by sevb on Jan 20, 2012 13:13:21 GMT -5
What was said - was enough to horribly impact a coaches career - on an anonymous message board! That's wrong!! Period... If someone wants to make allegations like that - then use your real name so that people can attribute your accusations TO you... if you aren't willing to be accountable for that type of language - then don't use it, or don't get pissy when people call you out for being a douche!
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Jan 20, 2012 13:17:36 GMT -5
Post by recoil on Jan 20, 2012 13:17:36 GMT -5
No, that is not my position. You may want to take a remedial course in reading comprehension. Seriously.
I said that there's nothing wrong with SPECULATION about why a coach lost his job, and discussion about rumors. I didn't say that it was okay to present a lie as a fact. As long as a post is presented as "I heard this", or "I don't know this for sure, but putting two and two together..." that there is nothing wrong with this. Public figures such as college coaches HAVE to deal with stuff like this - it comes with the territory. If you can't tell other people what's in the rumor mill, what's the point of having a rumor mill?
And I didn't misrepresent anything. I called the blackout related to SOPA as a protest against internet censorship. That's what THEY called it, for crying out loud.
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Jan 20, 2012 13:21:58 GMT -5
Post by loveofvolley on Jan 20, 2012 13:21:58 GMT -5
vbcpk68--Clearly you are not "CLOSE" enough to the UC program because you obviously don't know Reed as a person. And even if you do "KNOW" all of the players (so you think), I'm sure that you do NOT know the facts (as I too will not reveal my affiliation with the program). I can assure you that the "facts" you posted have nothing to do with what has happened in the past couple weeks. Maybe if you "knew" those that transferred and the assistant coach that left, you would change your perspective.
Reed is a well-respected coach in the volleyball community and these accusations are completely contradictory to his character. This team will suffer competitively for what they have caused--as Reed was the reason for the successful 2011 season.
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Jan 20, 2012 13:24:09 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 13:24:09 GMT -5
And that is not what was stated, so I suggest you refrain from commenting on things you don't know about, which, in this case, was what was alleged here.
Remedial course in reading comprehension? Nice.
And that, again, is a gross oversimplification of the SOPA protest. It has nothing to do with moderating a forum -- or being concerned about slander.
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Jan 20, 2012 13:27:08 GMT -5
Post by chisovnik on Jan 20, 2012 13:27:08 GMT -5
"Just don't make a stink?" Not making a stink, but an observation. I really wasn't asking for advice from any of you; most of you would require an infusion of some more intellectual horsepower for that to be worthwhile. And yes, the "volleyball and homophobia" thread was specific to volleyball. Of course, some posters brought up other pertinent, related current events. These were all pertinent to the discussion at hand. VolleyTalk ought to be able to tolerate a little bit of criticism or dissenting opinion. And even the occasional controversial thread. The crazies are taking over VT!
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Jan 20, 2012 13:28:54 GMT -5
Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2012 13:28:54 GMT -5
The thread still exists. Go over to Off-the-Net if you wish to contribute to it.
Although your attitude is unlikely to lead to civil discussion.
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Jan 20, 2012 13:55:22 GMT -5
Post by govolley on Jan 20, 2012 13:55:22 GMT -5
BRAVO to vbcpk68 !!! Thank you!
And yes, I'm a rookie poster, but have lurked on the site for years. This topic inspired me to come forward as others have recently - including young women college volleyball players .
For anyone to say the team will "suffer competitively for what they have caused" is again blaming the players. - STOP.
Good luck UC Volleyball. Good luck Coach.
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Jan 20, 2012 14:15:59 GMT -5
Post by recoil on Jan 20, 2012 14:15:59 GMT -5
In the VolleyTalk world, all players are spoiled brats, all parents made them that way, and all coaches are wonderful people, and not one of them has ever had sex with one of their players or done anything else wrong that merits getting fired over.
In the VolleyTalk world, protests against internet censorship are okay, at the same time they are censoring posts for the simple reason that people are disagreeing with them.
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