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Post by truffleshuffle on Apr 15, 2012 22:58:51 GMT -5
Obama and the liberal democrats going back to Jimmy Failure Carter have fought oil exploration in our country. So, yes Obama and the liberals are responsible for the gas prices that have doubled since Obama took over. yeah i'm sure gas prices would have been plummeting from all the oil that will take 5 years to dig up out of the ground. and you continue to ignore the fact that oil prices have doubled pretty much everywhere around the world. you are completely clueless. |
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Post by elevationvb on Apr 15, 2012 23:02:40 GMT -5
Obama and the liberal democrats going back to Jimmy Failure Carter have fought oil exploration in our country. So, yes Obama and the liberals are responsible for the gas prices that have doubled since Obama took over. yeah i'm sure gas prices would have been plummeting from all the oil that will take 5 years to dig up out of the ground. and you continue to ignore the fact that oil prices have doubled pretty much everywhere around the world. you are completely clueless. 30+ years of no. |
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Post by truffleshuffle on Apr 15, 2012 23:12:20 GMT -5
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 15, 2012 23:19:43 GMT -5
Mother Jones Truffle? What a shock. |
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Post by truffleshuffle on Apr 15, 2012 23:23:37 GMT -5
Mother Jones Truffle? What a shock. would you care to discuss the merits of the article? perhaps explain why gas prices are the fault of barack obama even though all the empirical evidence would argue otherwise? or would you prefer to make a snarky comment about a website without actually trying to discuss the issue by offering some real analysis or intelligent insight? |
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 15, 2012 23:33:05 GMT -5
Mother Jones Truffle? What a shock. would you care to discuss the merits of the article? perhaps explain why gas prices are the fault of barack obama even though all the empirical evidence would argue otherwise? or would you prefer to make a snarky comment about a website without actually trying to discuss the issue by offering some real analysis or intelligent insight? Do us the honor when debating of not quoting a notorious liberal publication. That isn't going to hold alot of weight. I have have mentioned Presidents and Congress in my responses. Not just Obama. I noticed that the genius of Husker 90210 or whatever his name is has also made that assumption. Yes, I think the United States has the influence and world wide capability to "highly encourage," oil companies to re-think their prices and to take measures that would remind oil companies that its not OK to price gouge consumers. |
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Post by truffleshuffle on Apr 15, 2012 23:39:56 GMT -5
Do us the honor when debating of not quoting a notorious liberal publication. That isn't going to hold alot of weight. in other words, no you're not going to talk about the content of the link. of course it's a liberal publication. they make no secret of that. are you arguing that they are falsifying the data in their posts? or are you just of the opinion that everything from a liberal point of view is wrong and not worth reading? well considering that no president or administration or congress in history has managed to significantly influence the oil industry, i am going to disagree with you. |
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Post by volleylearner on Apr 15, 2012 23:49:28 GMT -5
I think the United States has the influence and world wide capability to "highly encourage," oil companies to re-think their prices and to take measures that would remind oil companies that its not OK to price gouge consumers. Nice thought. Not happening though, and it is not obvious how to make it happen. Competition, taxation, and regulation are the common ways to force better behavior by companies. The high barrier to entry makes it hard for new companies to take away significant market share, and Congress isn't willing to do much about taxes or regulation. |
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 15, 2012 23:55:51 GMT -5
I think the United States has the influence and world wide capability to "highly encourage," oil companies to re-think their prices and to take measures that would remind oil companies that its not OK to price gouge consumers. Nice thought. Not happening though, and it is not obvious how to make it happen. Competition, taxation, and regulation are the common ways to force better behavior by companies. The high barrier to entry makes it hard for new companies to take away significant market share, and Congress isn't willing to do much about taxes or regulation. Agree and hence the frustration. Its like being held hostage long term without a solution. You and I both know however that where there is a will , there is a way. |
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Post by elevationvb on Apr 16, 2012 8:42:01 GMT -5
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Post by truffleshuffle on Apr 16, 2012 9:10:42 GMT -5
From Carter to Obama, we've had 30+ years of the left fighting oil production in America. If they had done the right thing for America, we would no longer be dependent on foreign oil. if you believe that, i've got some beachfront property in south dakota to sell you. |
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Post by volleylearner on Apr 16, 2012 10:28:03 GMT -5
From Carter to Obama, we've had 30+ years of the left fighting oil production in America. Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. If you want to equate Obama with Carter, you really should be able to do better (but I'm not going to help you). No one fights oil production because they are against oil production--they fight it because they are worried about the environmental impact. That movement started well before Carter. The '69 oil spill off Santa Barbara was a seminal event, the first Earth Day was in '70, and of course it was your friend Richard Nixon who launched the EPA. Preserving our natural environment goes back much further of course, and is at least as much a part of the American heritage than big autos and big oil companies. It is fine for you to disagree with the judgment that oil drilling will cause damage or not to see the value of protecting a particular area, but it is sad that you are unable to show an understanding of the passion some people have to protect the environment. Nice sound bite, but there is insufficient evidence to support that hypothesis. |
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Post by Guest on Apr 16, 2012 14:33:06 GMT -5
I'm always amused by how easily some people use this incredibly horrific and ugly word, but then get all bent out of shape by the word "f***" (which this forum won't even let me use). Tell me. Which one is actually more obscene? The F word. Thanks for asking. I respectfully suggest you need to examine that opinion more closely -- and not use "rape" so freely as a verb for the misbehavior of people, corporations or space aliens. It is incredibly offensive when Rush Limbaugh does it (which he does constantly) and it is offensive here. Thank you. |
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 16, 2012 15:40:05 GMT -5
The F word. Thanks for asking. I respectfully suggest you need to examine that opinion more closely -- and not use "rape" so freely as a verb for the misbehavior of people, corporations or space aliens. It is incredibly offensive when Rush Limbaugh does it (which he does constantly) and it is offensive here. Thank you. a perfect description in my opinion of oil companies. I don't care if Rush Limbaugh does it or if it offends you. Don't read it or get a less,"delicate," constitution. |
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Post by NebraskaVBfan93 on Apr 16, 2012 16:05:58 GMT -5
The F word. Thanks for asking. I respectfully suggest you need to examine that opinion more closely -- and not use "rape" so freely as a verb for the misbehavior of people, corporations or space aliens. It is incredibly offensive when Rush Limbaugh does it (which he does constantly) and it is offensive here. Thank you. Telling him Rush does it more than likely sweetens the pot and will cause him to use the term even more frequently. |
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