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Post by (R)uffda! on Apr 22, 2012 18:41:38 GMT -5
Again, head injuries bleed. It's likely, from subsequent photos, that his injuries were minor.
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 22, 2012 21:01:05 GMT -5
Again, head injuries bleed. It's likely, from subsequent photos, that his injuries were minor. You might be right, but it does support Zimmermans account of things that evening. I will be interested in Zimmerman's complete break down of the evening. Did he and Martin have a conversation? Will we ever know? |
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Post by lonewolf on Apr 22, 2012 21:55:33 GMT -5
Again, head injuries bleed. It's likely, from subsequent photos, that his injuries were minor. You might be right, but it does support Zimmermans account of things that evening. I will be interested in Zimmerman's complete break down of the evening. Did he and Martin have a conversation? Will we ever know? Technically it only supports part of his account, and even then, it is possible that he was backing up and tripped/slipped and hit his head. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 23, 2012 10:10:43 GMT -5
In contrast to some of the hyperbole, the actual release of Zimmerman on bail was pretty much a non-event.
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Post by hammer on Apr 23, 2012 12:23:38 GMT -5
Zimmerman left jail wearing a brown jacket, an ankle bracelet (for GPS tracking) and a bullet proof vest. According to his attorney, arrangements have been made to keep him secluded in several "secret" locations. Hopefully Seminole County has the ability to alter the transmission frequency of the GPS tracking device.
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Post by (R)uffda! on Apr 23, 2012 12:51:50 GMT -5
I think you are seriously overestimated the organizational skills of anyone crazy enough to attempt to murder Zimmerman. You're also overestimating their willingness to go to prison by doing so.
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 23, 2012 14:50:41 GMT -5
I think you are seriously overestimated the organizational skills of anyone crazy enough to attempt to murder Zimmerman. You're also overestimating their willingness to go to prison by doing so. I don't agree. I think he is very much in danger. |
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Post by (R)uffda! on Apr 23, 2012 15:02:28 GMT -5
And I don't agree. But I could be wrong. How many revenge killings do we actually have in this country?
What I suspect is that this "danger" we're talking about is just part of the same paranoia that led to Martin's death in the first place.
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 23, 2012 15:48:12 GMT -5
And I don't agree. But I could be wrong. How many revenge killings do we actually have in this country? What I suspect is that this "danger" we're talking about is just part of the same paranoia that led to Martin's death in the first place. As controversial and publicized as this situation has been,it only stands to reason that he would be in jeopardy. That is just common sense. |
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Post by (R)uffda! on Apr 23, 2012 16:00:37 GMT -5
Maybe common sense until you think about it. Nothing ever happens to these high-profile people. Doesn't mean it can't. Just that there's no evidence that anyone is ever willing to sacrifice their own freedom in a revenge killing.
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 23, 2012 16:13:11 GMT -5
I agree with Ruffda. This handwringing over Zimmerman's supposed safety is more about the attitudes of the people expressing it than it is about the real situation. "They" are going to kill him, because he killed one of "them." Right....
Meanwhile, people actually there on the scene say that everything has calmed down. Now that he has been charged with something, people have settled in to let the legal system work.
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Post by whodatguy on Apr 23, 2012 16:30:40 GMT -5
Yeah, there's no real danger till someone shoots their eye out, kid.
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Post by (R)uffda! on Apr 23, 2012 17:17:51 GMT -5
As long as we all agree that the more serious problem right now is protecting innocent people from out-of-control watchdogs (or other people toting pistols), rather than protecting high-profile defendants from vigilantes.
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Post by hammer on Apr 23, 2012 18:45:41 GMT -5
I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, but I do agree that the probability is very low especially since serious precautions are being taken. That's the key to security, make the target hard to kill and hard to find.
Groups wanting to settle the score with Zimmerman can wait until he is convicted, in which case he becomes very easy to find and, some would say, much easier to target. If Zimmerman is not convicted then the willingness of groups or individuals to dole out their own brand of justice may depend upon details that come to light during his trial.
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Post by BearClause on Apr 23, 2012 19:47:28 GMT -5
I think you are seriously overestimated the organizational skills of anyone crazy enough to attempt to murder Zimmerman. You're also overestimating their willingness to go to prison by doing so. Who the heck is going to find out exactly what frequency this thing transmits and in particular what code? I think most of these systems actually send out their signals through cellular phone networks, and there are many different devices that send little pulses at cell phone frequencies. In any case, how do they figure it's him compared to any of the probably thousands of similar tracking devices currently in circulation in Florida? You're right that the kind of person who would care to do this probably wouldn't muster the resources or organization skills to carry out following him via his transmitter. Still - I wouldn't put it beyond someone with the opportunity to beat him up if given the chance and if he didn't have someone around to protect him. |
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