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Post by (R)uffda! on Apr 23, 2012 20:18:12 GMT -5
I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, but I do agree that the probability is very low especially since serious precautions are being taken. That's the key to security, make the target hard to kill and hard to find. Groups wanting to settle the score with Zimmerman can wait until he is convicted, in which case he becomes very easy to find and, some would say, much easier to target. If Zimmerman is not convicted then the willingness of groups or individuals to dole out their own brand of justice may depend upon details that come to light during his trial. You are joking, right? This is patently risible stuff, hammer. What "groups" are you talking about? |
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 23, 2012 20:28:10 GMT -5
I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand, but I do agree that the probability is very low especially since serious precautions are being taken. That's the key to security, make the target hard to kill and hard to find. Groups wanting to settle the score with Zimmerman can wait until he is convicted, in which case he becomes very easy to find and, some would say, much easier to target. If Zimmerman is not convicted then the willingness of groups or individuals to dole out their own brand of justice may depend upon details that come to light during his trial. You are joking, right? This is patently risible stuff, hammer. What "groups" are you talking about? Let me see......mmm.....who was the organization that put a bounty on Zimmermans head? Black Panthers? You are joking...right? |
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 23, 2012 20:35:52 GMT -5
The New Black Panther Party (which most people, including black activists, consider to be a racist borderline criminal group) offered $10,000 for a "citizens arrest" of Zimmerman. Now that he has been arrested and charged, that's a moot point.
Of course, it really was a just a publicity stunt by them anyway, one which was immediately denounced by Sharpton, Jackson, the Martin family, etc.
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Post by (R)uffda! on Apr 23, 2012 20:44:30 GMT -5
And who the hell cares about the NLP? No one. Do you seriously believe that this fringe group is a real threat to Zimmerman?
Again, it sure seems like the same paranoia that led Zimmerman to shoot Martin in the first place. Guess what? The world isn't nearly as scary as some people make it out to be.
No, holiday, I am not joking. hammer's (and your?) concern for Zimmerman seems way over the top. I am more concerned with the fact some seem to have jumped to the conclusion that this was a hate crime, rather than the more likely scenario that Zimmerman was an idiot whose idiotic actions resulted in the death of a child.
THAT is what we should be devoting our energy on -- how something this awful happened. Not on paranoia about radical blacks out to snuff him. THAT mindset is only going to lead to more tragedies like this one.
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 23, 2012 20:45:38 GMT -5
The New Black Panther Party (which most people, including black activists, consider to be a racist borderline criminal group) offered $10,000 for a "citizens arrest" of Zimmerman. Now that he has been arrested and charged, that's a moot point. Of course, it really was a just a publicity stunt by them anyway, one which was immediately denounced by Sharpton, Jackson, the Martin family, etc. Yes....because Shapton and Jackson are opposed to publicity stunts. Brother!!! |
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 23, 2012 20:47:59 GMT -5
The New Black Panther Party (which most people, including black activists, consider to be a racist borderline criminal group) offered $10,000 for a "citizens arrest" of Zimmerman. Now that he has been arrested and charged, that's a moot point. Of course, it really was a just a publicity stunt by them anyway, one which was immediately denounced by Sharpton, Jackson, the Martin family, etc. Yes....because Shapton and Jackson are opposed to publicity stunts. Brother!!! They were opposed to this one. |
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Post by (R)uffda! on Apr 23, 2012 20:49:14 GMT -5
At least they are opposed to publicity stunts calling for violence. Give them some credit. You may not like their methods, but neither man deserves the contempt some here are throwing their way.
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 23, 2012 20:51:26 GMT -5
Yes....because Shapton and Jackson are opposed to publicity stunts. Brother!!! They were opposed to this one. most likely very loudly in front of several media . |
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 23, 2012 20:52:05 GMT -5
At least they are opposed to publicity stunts calling for violence. Give them some credit. You may not like their methods, but neither man deserves the contempt some here are throwing their way. all media whores deserve contempt. What is their motivation? |
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Post by (R)uffda! on Apr 23, 2012 20:56:37 GMT -5
Wow.
Here's what I find disturbing: This incident seems to now be about how dangerous these radical blacks are or how contemptible Sharpton and Jackson are. How on earth did we get here? Don't you think there is something much more terrible about this incident?
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 23, 2012 21:03:45 GMT -5
They were opposed to this one. most likely very loudly in front of several media . Dude, what the F do you want? If they had said nothing, you would have complained that they were silently complicit. If they publicly denounce the NBPP, you claim they are "media whores." What should they have done instead, in your opinion? Anonymously posted to Volleytalk? |
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 23, 2012 21:12:53 GMT -5
most likely very loudly in front of several media . Dude, what the F do you want? If they had said nothing, you would have complained that they were silently complicit. If they publicly denounce the NBPP, you claim they are "media whores." What should they have done instead, in your opinion? Anonymously posted to Volleytalk? Oh brother Garrison. What drama and the swearing. Way to tell me. Do you personally believe that Sharpton and Jackson are champions of the black cause and are their intentions honorable. Yes or no. |
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 23, 2012 21:13:55 GMT -5
Wow. Here's what I find disturbing: This incident seems to now be about how dangerous these radical blacks are or how contemptible Sharpton and Jackson are. How on earth did we get here? Don't you think there is something much more terrible about this incident? You find it disturbing that someone showed concern over Zimmerman's well being? |
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Post by mikegarrison on Apr 23, 2012 22:25:36 GMT -5
As I suspected, Holiday has no answer to the question about what he thinks Sharpton should have done. He's too filled with indignation over the fact that Sharpton exists at all.
And yes, I do in fact think that Sharpton and Jackson are men who believe they are making a difference for their people.
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Post by holidayhusker on Apr 23, 2012 22:44:02 GMT -5
As I suspected, Holiday has no answer to the question about what he thinks Sharpton should have done. He's too filled with indignation over the fact that Sharpton exists at all. And yes, I do in fact think that Sharpton and Jackson are men who believe they are making a difference for their people. I think the black population can decide what the feel without these two deciding for them , don't you? To act like they need to be led by these two is an insult to their own ability to make decisions or have opinions. Does the white caucasion public have a spokesperson that helps them decide what they think? I don't think they are making a positive difference. I think the general public gets quite fed up with their need for publicity and I think they are frankly a detriment. Of course no one will say that with honesty because people like you will accuse them of being racist for not waving the Jackson and Sharpton flag. |
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