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Post by Guest on Aug 27, 2012 22:32:08 GMT -5
I just don't know why you would redshirt your back up setter regardless of who starts. What if Annie goes down? Redshirt status can be revoked any time by the coach. If there's an injury to his starter, Hambly could always put a redshirted kid back on the active roster. |
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Post by thechief on Aug 27, 2012 23:59:06 GMT -5
I just don't know why you would redshirt your back up setter regardless of who starts. What if Annie goes down? Redshirt status can be revoked any time by the coach. If there's an injury to his starter, Hambly could always put a redshirted kid back on the active roster. Wow. This must be different from sport to sport. |
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Post by rocwest on Aug 28, 2012 1:38:33 GMT -5
Redshirt status can be revoked any time by the coach. If there's an injury to his starter, Hambly could always put a redshirted kid back on the active roster. Wow. This must be different from sport to sport. Nope, it's the general NCAA rule. You have five years to play four. If you start the year intending to redshirt you can still play at any time, but participating in even one play burns your redshirt year. |
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Post by rogero1 on Aug 28, 2012 5:05:39 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how they respond this weekend vs. Iowa St. How quickly can the players process the on-court adjustments they need make? Hambly is spot on when he talks about the tough pre-conference schedule. I agree that this is better than scheduling cupcakes to find out what your team is made of early. Even if they go 1-9, they will be better prepared for the B1G and the 2013 NCAAs. Yes, 1-9 is possible, but so is 8-2. The difference will be how fast this team matures and gels together as a team. |
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Post by notpriddy on Aug 28, 2012 7:55:15 GMT -5
Well, Luhrsen did tie Johnson for the team lead in blocks vs. Dayton. Through the two matches, only the two middles have more blocks than she does. Not bad for a setter. Just for the record brucks, when both middle blocker and outside blocker go up together and make a block, don't they both get credit for the block. It is only when one blocker goes up against an attacker and makes a solo block that a blocker gets individual credit for a solo block. My guess from watching the matches is that the Illini setter was getting joint credit for the block, when it was most likely the middle that actually did the blocking of the shot. |
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Post by umyeahaboutthat on Aug 28, 2012 8:37:48 GMT -5
Well, Luhrsen did tie Johnson for the team lead in blocks vs. Dayton. Through the two matches, only the two middles have more blocks than she does. Not bad for a setter. Just for the record brucks, when both middle blocker and outside blocker go up together and make a block, don't they both get credit for the block. It is only when one blocker goes up against an attacker and makes a solo block that a blocker gets individual credit for a solo block. My guess from watching the matches is that the Illini setter was getting joint credit for the block, when it was most likely the middle that actually did the blocking of the shot. Though everything you say is true, there's a reason why they award .5 blocks even if the player doesn't touch the ball: The player was in the right position at the right time and made the hitter adjust accordingly. IMHO, the stat is a good one. They both "did the blocking of the shot." |
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Post by MTC on Aug 28, 2012 9:08:56 GMT -5
I expect Hambly will have them in the hunt for the final four by season end. The new players just need experience. Just believe.
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Post by smiley on Aug 28, 2012 16:37:53 GMT -5
I wondered what we do last if something happened. Luckily nothing did. This year I imagine he'd just activat Viliunas. Plus there are several with a setter background. What if? What if? There's no way to take care of ALL the what it's.
At practice again today. Sometimes it's good to have no life.
Guess what they're doing? More passing drills. Different ones mostly. Seem to be doing better.
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Post by upyours on Aug 28, 2012 17:34:59 GMT -5
I don't buy this "Kevin is still green" business. He was voted coach of the year last season by at least one publication. He doesn't need to learn....he's been around volleyball as a player and coach for some years now. Yes, the team will improve....by good coaching and maturation......also, I don't think there is any healing necessary.....from what? I put this on the "Dumbest post of the Year" list. "He doesn't need to learn"... No one is an expert in anything after a couple of years. Kids now days! |
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Post by david on Aug 28, 2012 20:56:15 GMT -5
Not having seen any of the matches I can't say for sure if it was more passing.. or inability to better the ball significantly... to blame for the really low attack percentage this past weekend. But when in doubt, go with the passing. And, given Vilunius' size, is she really going to be more likely to chase down bad passes?
And my 10 years of observation tells me passing generally doesn't improve drastically until lineup changes are made- you keep thinking a player will "get it" but progress seems really slow. Perhaps someone can remind me of a player who was a poor passer who became a much better passer in the course of a season.
So I'm wondering... how long before Conard comes in?
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Post by brucks on Aug 28, 2012 21:05:32 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how they respond this weekend vs. Iowa St. . Iowa State comes in with the same record that we have. They lost 3-2 to both #12 Florida State and #15 Tennessee. They beat Cincinnati 3-0. |
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Post by stc23 on Aug 28, 2012 23:05:13 GMT -5
I saw all the matches, and it certainly looked like it was the passing to me.
Eight players were used in the back row. Here are the previous number of serve receptions in college for each of them. (McMahon and Wolfe were not really asked to pass this weekend either, but I'll include them anyway.)
1440 Beltran
16 Criswell
2 Abrahamovich
1 Wolfe
1 Stark
0 McMahon
0 Birks
0 Conard
I think it's understandable that they collectively suffered from a significant amount of nerves in those first couple matches.
Stark was expected to be used regularly in serve receive, but she only played 2 1/2 sets before getting injured. She did struggle with passing in that first match, but she looked just as nervous as the rest of them. Based on everything else I've seen and heard thus far, she will probably be fine once she gets a few more matches under her belt.
Conard did play in 6 of the 10 sets, including all 3 against Dayton. She also struggled, and I assume that's the reason she wasn't used more frequently in the two Saturday matches. I think most people expect her to be fine with a little time as well, though.
With everyone else struggling, Beltran then tried to do too much to cover for them, and also played poorly by her standards. I'm quite certain that she'll be just fine.
It seems reasonable to assume that after gaining some experience and becoming more comfortable with their roles, some of the others will also show at least a little improvement as the season progresses.
Add all that up, and I think you'll see a much better passing team in a month or two. That's not to say they'll be a particularly good passing team compared to last year, but hopefully good enough to win their share of matches, at least...
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 28, 2012 23:31:23 GMT -5
I expect Hambly will have them in the hunt for the final four by season end. The new players just need experience. Just believe. Are you talking about the NCAA division 1 final four? |
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Post by rocwest on Aug 29, 2012 0:20:27 GMT -5
Eight players were used in the back row. Here are the previous number of serve receptions in college for each of them. (McMahon and Wolfe were not really asked to pass this weekend either, but I'll include them anyway.) 1440 Beltran 16 Criswell 2 Abrahamovich 1 Wolfe 1 Stark 0 McMahon 0 Birks 0 Conard Great stats...that is most interesting as well as discouraging to see. The year just got a little longer... |
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Post by fbjr on Aug 29, 2012 1:16:05 GMT -5
McMahon played the back row in the first two games , and Wolf played back row for McMahon on Saturday against Ohio.Not sure if your post was suppose to be completely sarcastic but it just wasnt that bad. They are all new to each other and most of them have have minimal experience at this level and in this kind of a spot light BUT they will be just fine.The 3 outsides were outstanding 6 rotation players before college. They know how to pass- that skill doesn't just disappear ,but the nerves will.
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