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Post by greatestgamegoin on Apr 15, 2012 9:57:39 GMT -5
Springfield will be the number 1. Only one division 3 loss which they avenged, and the most ranked wins in the nation including one over UCSC. The 2 and 3 spot can go either way. I expect UCSC because the head to head to be over Carthage, but it doesn't really matter.
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Post by bbk on Apr 15, 2012 10:04:56 GMT -5
Seedings? 1. Springfield (at large) 2. UCSC (CVC bid) 3. Carthage (at large) 4. UVC Winner 5. UVC loser/Juniata 6. Kean (Skyline bid) 7. Rivier (GNAC bid) 8. Baruch (CUNY Bid) 9. Elms (NECC Bid) I don't think they'll make the 2 UVC teams play in the first round, so maybe Kean or Riv, whoever is the 6 may get the 5 to prevent the UVC/UVC first round match up. Just do not discount the East #2 ranked team in Hunter. They may have the resume. |
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Post by jadedoppo23 on Apr 15, 2012 10:18:21 GMT -5
ucsc has to be ahead of carthage they're 2-1 against them this year head to head and won their conference . . . it'd be a hard case to place the division loser/ at large ahead of the division winner . . i agree that springfield will be the number one, only fitting as they have the best record and they are the host school, but that only makes the pressure on them and the target on their back that much bigger . . .
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Post by jadedoppo23 on Apr 15, 2012 10:24:00 GMT -5
and i wouldnt put juniata out yet they are higher in the rankings than stevens and naz, yes theyve lost to them but they are the only d3 to beat springfield which could be a factor . . . the uvc is a very strong conference but juniata is coming out of the conference that has had two number one teams in the nation i think that if stevens wins then juniata has a chance still if naz wins then i think they will be out
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Post by bbk on Apr 15, 2012 10:46:11 GMT -5
What rankings? In the Regional rankings, JC was behind NYU, Stevens & Nazareth. They have slim to no chance and slim is leaving town. People have to remember that the Poll means ZERO.
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Post by justagameright on Apr 15, 2012 11:18:15 GMT -5
and i wouldnt put juniata out yet they are higher in the rankings than stevens and naz, yes theyve lost to them but they are the only d3 to beat springfield which could be a factor . . . the uvc is a very strong conference but juniata is coming out of the conference that has had two number one teams in the nation i think that if stevens wins then juniata has a chance still if naz wins then i think they will be out Coaches poll means squat when deciding an at-large bid. So lets stick to the facts and leave biased polls out. Facts: Stevens def. Juniata Nazareth def. Juniata Both Stevens and Nazareth are ranked higher than Juniata in thier region Stevens and Nazareth playing in the UVC finals MHO: Hunter has a stronger chance for the 3rd at-large over Juniata espically in Nazareth wins the UVC. |
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Post by oh13 on Apr 15, 2012 11:42:46 GMT -5
Juniata most definitely is in a tough spot. Don't see them getting in because of the before mentioned points.
But we do keep in mind we have never seen the way this committee votes before. A shocker pick today may not be a shocker pick in upcoming years when we see what the committee places the most value on.
Regardless, don't see JC getting in. That one win over SC only goes so far.
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Post by oh13 on Apr 15, 2012 11:48:36 GMT -5
Also I don't believe this has been posted yet.... CVC All Tourny Team
CVC Ajj Tournament Team
# 11 Salvatore La Cavera III (Jr./OH/Huntingdon Beach, Calif.) - UCSC
# 17 Paul Leon (Sr./S/Laguna Niguel, Calif.) - UCSC
# 18 Darren Tsai (Sr./Libero/Huntingdon Beach, Calif.) - UCSC
# 19 Jake Dietrich (Sr./OH/Saugus, Calif.) - UCSC
# 1 Randy Hansen (Sr/OH/Oak Lawn, Ill.) - Carthage#
# 7 Connor Wexter (So./S/New Lenox, Ill.) - Carthage#
# 15 Matt Yanz (Sr./MB/Bolingbrook, Ill.) - Carthage#
# 10 Cameron Andrew (Jr./OH/Dallas, Texas) - Juniata
Tsai really deserves more consideration for All American. Great player.
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Post by tenfootline10 on Apr 15, 2012 12:08:10 GMT -5
Seedings? 1. Springfield (at large) 2. UCSC (CVC bid) 3. Carthage (at large) 4. UVC Winner 5. UVC loser/Juniata 6. Kean (Skyline bid) 7. Rivier (GNAC bid) 8. Baruch (CUNY Bid) 9. Elms (NECC Bid) I don't think they'll make the 2 UVC teams play in the first round, so maybe Kean or Riv, whoever is the 6 may get the 5 to prevent the UVC/UVC first round match up. Just do not discount the East #2 ranked team in Hunter. They may have the resume. If Hunter manages to somehow get that third at large bid. What does that mean for Baruch they would have to be ranked above Hunter so does that just bump them to 7 or would that be a play in? |
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Post by noreaster on Apr 15, 2012 12:28:00 GMT -5
Unless Hunter gets in, Baruch will have 0 wins against the field. They have lost to Springfield (2), Naz, Kean and Riv, and after yesterday I wouldn't expect that win over NYU to mean much.
If the play-in isn't Bruch and Elms, who could it be?
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Post by justagameright on Apr 15, 2012 12:47:38 GMT -5
Unless Hunter gets in, Baruch will have 0 wins against the field. They have lost to Springfield (2), Naz, Kean and Riv, and after yesterday I wouldn't expect that win over NYU to mean much. If the play-in isn't Bruch and Elms, who could it be? That seems the most logical regardless if Hunter makes it or not. We could actually make the two deserving teams play in. According to the TES mileage Calculation it is only 145 miles between the two schools. The more interesting question would be who would have the right to host. If my memory serves my right, I think I heard that Endicott was the only school that put in a bid to host the play-in. They won't play at a neutral site since that would require 2 schools to travel. |
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Post by oh13 on Apr 15, 2012 13:13:17 GMT -5
The committee needs to make this inaugural tournament have the best teams available. That means unfortunately for Elms, they need to be in the play in game by any means necessary. No body wants to see an Elms/Springfield matchup.
Lets hope the NCAA doesn't take the cheap road here because Elms is just a few miles down the road from SC that means they probably wouldn't even have to pay for hotels for them.
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Post by tenfootline10 on Apr 15, 2012 14:31:11 GMT -5
Correct me if im wrong but isn't the rule the 9 seed plays whoever is nearest geographically...If Elms takes the 9 seed which should happen then they would have to play Springfield regardless if it wont be an interesting or entertaining match
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Post by noreaster on Apr 15, 2012 15:17:57 GMT -5
Supposedly geography is only a consideration if the schools they want to put together are more than 500 miles apart. For example, if Santa Cruz was the 8, they wouldn't fly Elms to California.
However I do like the idea of Springfield and Elms playing. Springfield gets to host so make them play an extra match, and they didn't play a conference tournament so they could use some play. And Elms should lose to whoever they play, so why not keep their trip short?
Its perfect!
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Post by jadedoppo23 on Apr 15, 2012 15:36:06 GMT -5
would juniata still have an outside chance to make it if stevens wins, then naz nyu and juniata will all have the same amount of in region losses, yes juniata will have lost to naz but then would their springfield win though out of region help boost their resume ?
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