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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 5:42:51 GMT -5
Post by beachbomb on Apr 21, 2012 5:42:51 GMT -5
Barboza has improved on the passing game... And I saw her play a game in Italy... Her passing was the reason Hatmotto has big numbers... And harmotto was amazing also. But Cyn was hitting great shot and with heat a lot like 07 vs. UCLA in reg finals .
I don't care if she doesn't play I just want her to go... 3rd times a charm.
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 7:51:54 GMT -5
Post by dorothymantooth on Apr 21, 2012 7:51:54 GMT -5
Barboza has improved on the passing game... And I saw her play a game in Italy... Her passing was the reason Hatmotto has big numbers... And harmotto was amazing also. But Cyn was hitting great shot and with heat a lot like 07 vs. UCLA in reg finals . I don't care if she doesn't play I just want her to go... 3rd times a charm. On behalf of Harmotto's friends and family, we would like to thank Barboza for Christa's success.
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 7:56:38 GMT -5
Post by dorothymantooth on Apr 21, 2012 7:56:38 GMT -5
Cynthia would be a great addition, along with Klineman and Tom. She provides great defense and passing, and she can hit from the backrow as well. I don't see why she would not be on the roster. We would be crazy to not send an all Stanford team
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 7:56:53 GMT -5
Post by future on Apr 21, 2012 7:56:53 GMT -5
I don't care if she doesn't play I just want her to go... 3rd times a charm. Doesn't work that way....sorry
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 8:06:51 GMT -5
Post by vball20 on Apr 21, 2012 8:06:51 GMT -5
I think it all depends on how many outside hitters they will bring to London. Glass,Barboza and Klineman will fight for that last spot. Personally I prefer Klineman over the other two.
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 8:21:35 GMT -5
Post by tenniscraze on Apr 21, 2012 8:21:35 GMT -5
It's not so much about the position... They also need opposites, as well as someone who can pass/defend in the backrow. Hooker is in for sure and I think the logical choice is to pick Cynthia who can play outside or opposite, not to mention defense.
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 8:24:23 GMT -5
Post by USAFAN on Apr 21, 2012 8:24:23 GMT -5
Yes, they need OPP when they already have Haneef-Park and Nancy Metcalf who are both far better attackers and have Olympic experience.
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 8:36:11 GMT -5
Post by Reach on Apr 21, 2012 8:36:11 GMT -5
Yes, they need OPP when they already have Haneef-Park and Nancy Metcalf who are both far better attackers and have Olympic experience. It's funny how posters use the word experience to better their argument. Interesting.
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 8:55:50 GMT -5
Post by USAFAN on Apr 21, 2012 8:55:50 GMT -5
There's no argument really. To insinuate that Barboza is a capable OPP on the level of Metcalf or Haneef-Park is delusional. The proof is really in the pudding. All of these hypothetical situations where Barboza could potentially be an asset have never materialized in match play. Larson and Hodge both have far less international caps than Barboza yet they've surpassed her. As did K. Glass and Willoughby last quad. The 4 aforementioned players have proven their worth on the court. When Barboza comes through on all these hypothetical situations I'll consider her a legitimate option. Until then she's another Kristin Richards just a few years younger.
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 10:40:19 GMT -5
Post by tenniscraze on Apr 21, 2012 10:40:19 GMT -5
Err.. can you explain how Hodge has surpassed Barboza? FYI Cynthia has had more playing time than Hodge.
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 11:01:19 GMT -5
Post by USAFAN on Apr 21, 2012 11:01:19 GMT -5
As Ace Ventura once said "fiction can be fun." Barboza definitely didn't play more than Hodge in 2011. In fact, Barboza missed the beginning of the season due to the knee injury she suffered last year with Krasnodar. Please observe the following 2011 stats.
Sets played: Barboza - 32, Hodge - 59 Kills per set: Barboza - 2.16, Hodge - 3.12 Kill percentage: Barboza - 37.3 %, Hodge - 46.6% Kill efficiency: Barboza - 27%, Hodge - 32.2% Aces per set: Barboza - 0.03, Hodge - 0.29 Blocks per set: Barboza - .19, Hodge - .37 Digs per set: Barboza - .56, Hodge - 1.44
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 12:11:49 GMT -5
Post by MarsH on Apr 21, 2012 12:11:49 GMT -5
Hugh's spoke about his strategy in regard to selecting the 2008 Men's team. He said that he was not selecting the USA All Stars but rather wanted the 12 athletes that made for the best team. Assuming this philosophy, which players have the intangibles that complete the best team? Sykora brings that in my mind, (maybe in JLP's mind too?), but hard to answer for those of us looking in from the outside . . . I do wonder if the 12th spot in London goes to someone similar to Scott Touzinsky in the Men's Beijing team. With all due respect to Scott's abilities, everyone knew that he wasn't going to start in Beijing (he played the role of a serving sub). But he was such a good guy to have on the team because of his energy and just how excited he was to wear the USA uniform even if that meant just playing a handful of points in a match, that when it came down to deciding the last few hitter spots on the team, Scott was a good decision. And it wasn't necessarily because he was the best technically or was the most athletic of the remaining players, but because of how he affected team chemistry. In a way, that was his intangible. Among the "maybe" players in the women's gym, I do think Sykora has that kind of personality. I don't think she is 100% recovered from her head injury though so I think it will be a challenge. I have seen Barboza with the US team and seen them interact off the court and I do think she is a positive teammate to have around and she lightens up the mood considerably. I also know Jen Joines is generally well-liked in the team and is comfortable playing a role position. And so on and so forth for the other players. In short, I agree with you. I think when the difference technically among players is marginal, it comes down to intangibles. And I'm intersted to see exactly how much that plays into deciding the last 2-3 spots.
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 12:22:09 GMT -5
Post by midas on Apr 21, 2012 12:22:09 GMT -5
As Ace Ventura once said "fiction can be fun." Barboza definitely didn't play more than Hodge in 2011. In fact, Barboza missed the beginning of the season due to the knee injury she suffered last year with Krasnodar. Please observe the following 2011 stats. Sets played: Barboza - 32, Hodge - 59 Kills per set: Barboza - 2.16, Hodge - 3.12 Kill percentage: Barboza - 37.3 %, Hodge - 46.6% Kill efficiency: Barboza - 27%, Hodge - 32.2% Aces per set: Barboza - 0.03, Hodge - 0.29 Blocks per set: Barboza - .19, Hodge - .37 Digs per set: Barboza - .56, Hodge - 1.44 Are passing stats fictional? Also, keep in mind Barboza's stats are probably watered down by the fact that she was a serving specialist only in a good number of those sets
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 12:25:29 GMT -5
Post by USAFAN on Apr 21, 2012 12:25:29 GMT -5
I have to disagree. Touzinsky didn't make the team because of any intangible. He made the team because he was one of the best jump servers on the team and executed the skill at a high level. That is a very tangible, measurable quality that he demonstrated in match play for the USA. Barboza on the hand doesn't possess that skill and I find it difficult to make the assertion that Barboza's serve is amongst the best in the USA gym right now.
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Barboza
Apr 21, 2012 12:31:18 GMT -5
Post by USAFAN on Apr 21, 2012 12:31:18 GMT -5
As Ace Ventura once said "fiction can be fun." Barboza definitely didn't play more than Hodge in 2011. In fact, Barboza missed the beginning of the season due to the knee injury she suffered last year with Krasnodar. Please observe the following 2011 stats. Sets played: Barboza - 32, Hodge - 59 Kills per set: Barboza - 2.16, Hodge - 3.12 Kill percentage: Barboza - 37.3 %, Hodge - 46.6% Kill efficiency: Barboza - 27%, Hodge - 32.2% Aces per set: Barboza - 0.03, Hodge - 0.29 Blocks per set: Barboza - .19, Hodge - .37 Digs per set: Barboza - .56, Hodge - 1.44 Are passing stats fictional? Also, keep in mind Barboza's stats are probably watered down by the fact that she was a serving specialist only in a good number of those sets What are you talking about? By fiction, I am referring to tenniscraze's statement that Barboza had more playing time. I referenced the stats to show that Hodge played much more than Barboza did. Water down the stats however you want. Barboza's not amongst the top 20 outside hitters in the world and probably never will be. I never realized how much emotional attachment this board has to her. Meritocracy, baby. That's what I'm all about. If Barboza wins her position on the team based on performance then good for her but up to this point she has not demonstrated she deserves the position based off of merit.
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