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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 16:33:04 GMT -5
Post by dorothymantooth on Apr 18, 2012 16:33:04 GMT -5
Barboza would be a great addition. what is it that you see her bringing to the table? Starter? If not who can she go in for, and what does she add? I see her as a very solid all around player, but not as strong as Larson who has the same skill set, Tom is a better version of both IMO. Do you see a scenario where her and Hodge BOTH make it?
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 16:46:19 GMT -5
Post by USAFAN on Apr 18, 2012 16:46:19 GMT -5
Plenty of teams in the past have taken a 4th middle blocker and or a 2nd passing/defensive specialist. It's much more about what that 12th player can contribute to the team. Based on the current depth of the team Barboza wouldn't be called upon to contribute her all-around game. Outside of the Pan Am Games, with a roster absent of vets, she has been used exclusively as a serving specialist. Based on her execution of that skill alone I don't think she should make the final roster. I believe there are other players that can execute that role more effectively.
Question regarding the Olympics: Will the new libero rules apply?
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 16:49:50 GMT -5
Post by bigfan on Apr 18, 2012 16:49:50 GMT -5
Barboza would be a great addition. what is it that you see her bringing to the table? Starter? If not who can she go in for, and what does she add? I see her as a very solid all around player, but not as strong as Larson who has the same skill set, Tom is a better version of both IMO. Do you see a scenario where her and Hodge BOTH make it? I am on the outside looking in. I am not qualified to pick the final team.
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 17:19:32 GMT -5
Post by dorothymantooth on Apr 18, 2012 17:19:32 GMT -5
Plenty of teams in the past have taken a 4th middle blocker and or a 2nd passing/defensive specialist. It's much more about what that 12th player can contribute to the team. Based on the current depth of the team Barboza wouldn't be called upon to contribute her all-around game. Outside of the Pan Am Games, with a roster absent of vets, she has been used exclusively as a serving specialist. Based on her execution of that skill alone I don't think she should make the final roster. I believe there are other players that can execute that role more effectively. Question regarding the Olympics: Will the new libero rules apply? Health is going to play a big role as well.
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 17:26:06 GMT -5
Post by Reach on Apr 18, 2012 17:26:06 GMT -5
Barboza has really upped her defensive and passing game this past season. Her offense still struggles and she is the worst blocker of all four, but I like her game. Her consistency is what sets her apart from Larson. Hodge is better than anyone hitting, but is the worst in the passing/defensive department. Barboza also gives the team someone who can play either pin well. This is a big added bonus for her.
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 17:28:19 GMT -5
Post by Reach on Apr 18, 2012 17:28:19 GMT -5
btw Sykora isn't in the conversation anymore. Love her, but let get to reality folks she isn't where she needs to be post accident. And Tamas rarely played this year. The 3rd MB spot is between Scott and Harmotto.
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 17:49:27 GMT -5
Post by baywatcher on Apr 18, 2012 17:49:27 GMT -5
If Hooker is in a funk Barboza could not only serve but stay in the back row, defend, and hit a OH level backattack/pipe.
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 17:53:44 GMT -5
Post by midnightblue on Apr 18, 2012 17:53:44 GMT -5
If Hooker is in a funk Barboza could not only serve but stay in the back row, defend, and hit a OH level backattack/pipe. I will say Barboza can hit out of the back row with the best of them.
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 18:07:00 GMT -5
Post by USAFAN on Apr 18, 2012 18:07:00 GMT -5
If Hooker is in a funk Barboza could not only serve but stay in the back row, defend, and hit a OH level backattack/pipe. I will say Barboza can hit out of the back row with the best of them. No, she really doesn't. Do you think Hugh would sub Hooker for Barboza for offense when Haneef-Park and Metcalf are on the bench and in such a situation either Larson or Tom would be in the backrow? Barboza's supposed versatility is her biggest hindrance. She's good at everything but great at nothing. She won't ever see time as a 6 rotation starter with the A team and has been relegated to a reserve role that requires the execution of a few skills. No one has mentioned how great her serve is and yet that's all she was asked to do with the A team. Doesn't that seem like a problem? To be completely honest, I'd rather see Hugh take Hooker, Haneef-Park and Metcalf. At least in the case of Haneef-Park she has legit experience playing both pins. And if Hugh wants passing and defense he'll take a specialist not Barboza.
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 18:14:42 GMT -5
Post by MarsH on Apr 18, 2012 18:14:42 GMT -5
Question regarding the Olympics: Will the new libero rules apply? I haven't heard anything to the contrary. As far as I know, two (2) players can be designated as libero in the team of 12.
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 18:16:05 GMT -5
Post by USAFAN on Apr 18, 2012 18:16:05 GMT -5
Question regarding the Olympics: Will the new libero rules apply? I haven't heard anything to the contrary. As far as I know, two (2) players can be designated as libero in the team of 12. I mean as far as the switching of liberos during the match.
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 18:26:26 GMT -5
Post by MarsH on Apr 18, 2012 18:26:26 GMT -5
I mean as far as the switching of liberos during the match. AFAIK yes on that, too. The 2 liberi can switch any time after a completed rally.
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 18:30:28 GMT -5
Post by Reach on Apr 18, 2012 18:30:28 GMT -5
Well, the connection between Barboza and Llyod at the Pan Am's last year was something special. It was some of the best ball I've ever seen her play and so did the coaches, thus why she took Kim G's spot later in the summer last year. Barboza took it to the Cubans and everyone else they played. USAvolley16 was likely referring to Barboza hitting bombs in that tournament that looked as good as Hooker at times. If you didn't see her play during that tournament than you need to she was fantastic from anywhere on the court. She started every match and always hit well with Lloyd, but not so well with Thompson. Setters can make all the difference in the world.
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 19:06:25 GMT -5
Post by midnightblue on Apr 18, 2012 19:06:25 GMT -5
I will say Barboza can hit out of the back row with the best of them. No, she really doesn't. Do you think Hugh would sub Hooker for Barboza for offense when Haneef-Park and Metcalf are on the bench and in such a situation either Larson or Tom would be in the backrow? Barboza's supposed versatility is her biggest hindrance. She's good at everything but great at nothing. She won't ever see time as a 6 rotation starter with the A team and has been relegated to a reserve role that requires the execution of a few skills. No one has mentioned how great her serve is and yet that's all she was asked to do with the A team. Doesn't that seem like a problem? To be completely honest, I'd rather see Hugh take Hooker, Haneef-Park and Metcalf. At least in the case of Haneef-Park she has legit experience playing both pins. And if Hugh wants passing and defense he'll take a specialist not Barboza. Yes, she really can. Her back row attack has been the best part of her offensive game for years. For all the years I've been watching her participate with the NT, and overseas, her back row attacking has been top notch. No where did I infer that Hugh would take Barboza because of this. I simply made an observation.
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Barboza
Apr 18, 2012 19:23:02 GMT -5
Post by USAFAN on Apr 18, 2012 19:23:02 GMT -5
Yes, I saw Barboza play at the Pan Am Games and she did play well but the role she played on that team is much different from the role she plays on the A team. Has she been a threat from the service line? No.
I get it, there are a lot Barboza fans on this board. I'm sure she's a great person but she hasn't demonstrated that she's great on the court. She didn't make the 2008 squad over Glass, Nnamani, and Willoughby and four years later she isn't even in the first off the bench backup position. During her pro season she split time on the outside with a player 4 years her junior. Granted she's got plenty of years left in her to play pro she's had ample time to get to that next level and has failed to do so.
@usvolley16, she really can? So when you say with the best of them I'm going to assume you mean the best of them who are the likes of Calderon, Gamova, Flier, Sheilla, Hooker, etc...... be real, she couldn't hold a candle to them.
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