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Post by sevb on Apr 19, 2012 20:14:04 GMT -5
You only get 12 subs in a game (which for some reason is a set, not a game), unless they changed it again without telling me. Yup-you missed it!! |
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Post by lonewolf on Apr 19, 2012 20:14:46 GMT -5
You only get 12 subs in a game (which for some reason is a set, not a game), unless they changed it again without telling me. could easily vary depending on where the op's friend coaches. |
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Post by oldman on Apr 19, 2012 20:14:47 GMT -5
A friend told me a team can make 15 substitutions in a game. I was trying to mathematically figure out the following: A.) Based on the scenario outlined below, how many rotations can the team make in a game before it runs out of substitutions? B.) What is the least amount of points a team could score before it runs out of substitutions? I assume that would mean each team alternate scoring a point. Here is my scenario for the questions. 1.) The team always has to have 3 players accepting serve, no more and no less. 1.) The team has 1 libero and 2 defensive players available to play. It is my understanding the libero can go in and out at will and this is not counted as a substitution. These three players are used to accept the serve and 2 of them are always on the court when the team is in formation to accept serve. 2.) The team has one front row player who accepts serve every time and stays in the game through all rotations. This player always starts in the left front position. All other front players never accept serve, rotate back to serve and then sub out after serving. 4.) There are no other substitutions made other than the ones mentioned for the purposes of accepting serve. The answers to questions A and B seem reasonably easy except I may not understand all the rules correctly. Is there anyone willing to figure this out and give an answer? Also let me know if my scenario violates any of the rules or is not possible to do for some reason. (I do understand this scenario limits the number of back row hitters. That is not my focus for the question.) When is your final due???? |
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Post by vbnerd on Apr 19, 2012 23:30:38 GMT -5
Seriously people?!? And the OP is a stanford fan no less.
This is like 3rd grade math. I've been drinking so this may not be perfect but it goes something like....
Step 1 - Open a new excel file
Step 2 - Column A is 1-25
Step 3 - Columbn B is 1-6, starting with the rotation you want to start in, and repeating until the column length is the same as Column A.
Step 4 - figure out which rotations you are going to sub in
Step 5 - enter the number of subs next to the number of the rotation.
Step 6 - Count to 15, follow that row back to Column A and that is the minimum number of points you'll have when you run out of subs.
If you are playing a 6-2, setter for the RS, the libero plays for the middle, and 1 DS plays for 1 outside hitter, you'll sub 2 in rotations 1 and 4 and you'll make 1 sub in rotations 2 and 5. That is 6 subs per 6 rotations. The earliest you would be unable to sub is the 17th rotation. If you start your front row OH in 5 and let them pass the first rotation, you can get to the 19th rotation. You need to serve 6 service points to get to 25 before running out.
If you just sub setters for RS's and start in 1 or 4, at worst you are going to play the 25th point with 2 setters on the floor.
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Post by oldunc on Apr 20, 2012 20:10:57 GMT -5
You only get 12 subs in a game (which for some reason is a set, not a game), unless they changed it again without telling me. Yup-you missed it!! Well, shoot me for a skeet- I tend to lose track during basketball season. Looked up the rule changes- the others are pretty boring, but this is a bit radical- most people seemed to feel 15 was excessive for a 30 point game. |
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Post by cbrown1709 on Apr 21, 2012 13:38:30 GMT -5
When you have a team of players who can't do both, you like it....lol.
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Post by kerk on Apr 21, 2012 13:59:37 GMT -5
A friend told me a team can make 15 substitutions in a game. I was trying to mathematically figure out the following: A.) Based on the scenario outlined below, how many rotations can the team make in a game before it runs out of substitutions? B.) What is the least amount of points a team could score before it runs out of substitutions? I assume that would mean each team alternate scoring a point. Here is my scenario for the questions. 1.) The team always has to have 3 players accepting serve, no more and no less. 1.) The team has 1 libero and 2 defensive players available to play. It is my understanding the libero can go in and out at will and this is not counted as a substitution. These three players are used to accept the serve and 2 of them are always on the court when the team is in formation to accept serve. 2.) The team has one front row player who accepts serve every time and stays in the game through all rotations. This player always starts in the left front position. All other front players never accept serve, rotate back to serve and then sub out after serving. 4.) There are no other substitutions made other than the ones mentioned for the purposes of accepting serve. The answers to questions A and B seem reasonably easy except I may not understand all the rules correctly. Is there anyone willing to figure this out and give an answer? Also let me know if my scenario violates any of the rules or is not possible to do for some reason. (I do understand this scenario limits the number of back row hitters. That is not my focus for the question.) Invalid scenario. Your requirements can't be met. I guess I have to elaborate on my answer. When the setter is in the back row with the 6 rotation OH, the third backrow player will be the Libero. Leaving these two and a front row player to receive serve per the first requirement #1 of “3 players accepting serve, no more and no less”. However, this will contradict requirement #2, “All other front row players never receive serve.” Invalid (or trick) question. |
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Post by lonewolf on Apr 22, 2012 12:07:58 GMT -5
Invalid scenario. Your requirements can't be met. I guess I have to elaborate on my answer. When the setter is in the back row with the 6 rotation OH, the third backrow player will be the Libero. Leaving these two and a front row player to receive serve per the first requirement #1 of “3 players accepting serve, no more and no less”. However, this will contradict requirement #2, “All other front row players never receive serve.” Invalid (or trick) question. good catch |
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Post by kerk on Apr 23, 2012 16:52:18 GMT -5
Thanks!
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