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Post by lionsarm on Apr 29, 2012 1:25:06 GMT -5
I know there are a lot of chatter about this season being the last for speraw at uci and him going to ucla.
Though I'm a fan of the college game. I'm a much bigger fan of our national team. If speraw isn't our national team coach after London, Doug Beal should resign/be fired.
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Post by fingrbustr on Apr 29, 2012 1:51:14 GMT -5
I know there are a lot of chatter about this season being the last for speraw at uci and him going to ucla. Though I'm a fan of the college game. I'm a much bigger fan of our national team. If speraw isn't our national team coach after London, Doug Beal should resign/be fired. Good words, my man. Sharp, focused and motivated. Speraw is the truth. |
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Post by thumpvb on Apr 29, 2012 3:45:04 GMT -5
Not sure the national team job is better than a good college job for a number of reasons. If Speraw does end up with the UCLA job I'm not sure its a great idea taking off for four years right out of the gate to coach the national team. If speraw stays at Irvine that suggests to me he is happy there, and again not likely to bail to national team for next 4-8 years.
I think Speraw would do a great job as the national team coach, I'm just not sure what his motivation would be to take it.
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Post by jna on Apr 29, 2012 6:31:45 GMT -5
And I am not sure if he is the best option for the national team. IMO he will be nothing but an Alan Knipe model. He would fill the the national team with alumni of UCI like Alan Knipe did about alumni from LBSU during this cycle.
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Post by gouci on Apr 29, 2012 8:17:40 GMT -5
The national team is already filled with UCI alumni in Carson Clark, Jason Jablonsky, Brian Thorton and David Smith. But unlike Long Beach State players these guys won a national title. ;D
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Post by YellowJacket#9 on Apr 29, 2012 8:18:52 GMT -5
And I am not sure if he is the best option for the national team. IMO he will be nothing but an Alan Knipe model. He would fill the the national team with alumni of UCI like Alan Knipe did about alumni from LBSU during this cycle. I would have to disagree with that statement. Speraw was on two NT's as a staffer/assistant and has had the pleasure of working with HMc and under the USOC/USAV umbrella. He has watched and been apart of selecting, training and mentoring players during a quadrennial, so to say he would "fill" the roster with only UCI players (IMO) is a stretch. I am not saying it isn't possible he'll add the BEST UCI players to the roster (ie Clarke, or even Ammermann) but not every position will be a UCI player. Now, as for Knipe "just" using LBSU players, you can argue that, but his job was to bring in a team that would work in HIS system. If that is/was the case, then who better to help jump start that ideal, than your former players, again just my opinion on that. Speraw, has two things going for him: 1) he is the coaching "protege" (on the men's side) of Al Scates right now (Sealey on the women's side). 2) he already has a "GOLD MEDAL" or Olympic Championship under his belt for being part of the 2008 staff. Lets throw in another (just for fun) --- Speraw is probably one of the MOST respected YOUNG men's coaches out there, BY EVERYONE! NOW as for him leaving UCI, doubt it would happen (UCI pays more than UCLA) but again, he is the "hot poker stirring the coals." Maybe he could dictate his own contract if he chose. Again....just my opinion... |
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Post by 30killspergame on Apr 29, 2012 9:13:24 GMT -5
He has the best roster this year by far.. Alan Knipe was more impresive in college, he took people that weren't highly recruited like Lotman and made them what they are.. Speraw is not lacking for highly touted recruits. You're giving him too much credit. They should conduct a very careful search and possible looking for international coaches as well, why not?
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Post by lionsarm on Apr 29, 2012 11:44:47 GMT -5
He has the best roster this year by far.. Alan Knipe was more impresive in college, he took people that weren't highly recruited like Lotman and made them what they are.. Speraw is not lacking for highly touted recruits. You're giving him too much credit. They should conduct a very careful search and possible looking for international coaches as well, why not? You're kidding right? Yes speraw has a loaded roster this year, but that's bc he has turned uci into a powerhouse program. Remember where uci was before he got there? His first full class of smith thornton jablonsky and webber, only byu had offered jablonsky and ucsb wanted smith to walk on. and the unathletic overlooked Thornton is now the starter on the national team. Uci doesn't have the name recognition as a Stanford USC or ucla, and never will, but he gets kids to buy into his program. So yes he has a loaded roster now, but you make it seem like it just fell into his lap, which is laughable. In fact I don't think he gets enough credit, on the cusp of winning a third title, whether he wins or not should not obscure the fact that before his arrival, uci battled pacific and ucsd year in and year out for conference bottom dweller status. |
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Post by phildunphy on Apr 29, 2012 13:08:14 GMT -5
He has the best roster this year by far.. Alan Knipe was more impresive in college, he took people that weren't highly recruited like Lotman and made them what they are.. Speraw is not lacking for highly touted recruits. You're giving him too much credit. They should conduct a very careful search and possible looking for international coaches as well, why not? To follow up on lionsarm...LOOOOOOL! Knipe was more impressive. I mean let's look at his NCAA Titles...There was that one in....ummm...wait...can't seem to find it...hmmm.... Speraw has 2 NC's and is at his 3rd Final Four in 6 seasons!!! So it's more impressive to never win it all than to actually win it? So he should now be punished because he gets good players now? Volleytalkers kill me at times!!! Fergie gets SKEWERED on this site for basically no good reason because his teams "choke". So when Speraw WINS with his good players...he too should be looked down on somehow for it??? Apparently in Volleytalk-land...the only way to be an impressive college coach is to somehow win a NC going undefeated with a team of all guys under 6 feet tall who do charity work on the side??? Amaziiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing!!! |
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Post by 30killspergame on Apr 29, 2012 13:52:00 GMT -5
He has the best roster this year by far.. Alan Knipe was more impresive in college, he took people that weren't highly recruited like Lotman and made them what they are.. Speraw is not lacking for highly touted recruits. You're giving him too much credit. They should conduct a very careful search and possible looking for international coaches as well, why not? You're kidding right? Yes speraw has a loaded roster this year, but that's bc he has turned uci into a powerhouse program. Remember where uci was before he got there? His first full class of smith thornton jablonsky and webber, only byu had offered jablonsky and ucsb wanted smith to walk on. and the unathletic overlooked Thornton is now the starter on the national team. Uci doesn't have the name recognition as a Stanford USC or ucla, and never will, but he gets kids to buy into his program. So yes he has a loaded roster now, but you make it seem like it just fell into his lap, which is laughable. In fact I don't think he gets enough credit, on the cusp of winning a third title, whether he wins or not should not obscure the fact that before his arrival, uci battled pacific and ucsd year in and year out for conference bottom dweller status. I don't dispute that but knipe's record is impresive despite never getting highly touted guys. That's not the case for speraw right or in a long time. You don't dont he gets enough credit?? Sure he does on these forums, or perhaps you're a newcomer here.. |
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Post by lionsarm on Apr 29, 2012 16:33:28 GMT -5
long beach doesn't get highly touted recruits? budinger, tarr, lee, hildebrand, touzinsky, wootten, munoz, pestolesi, dean bittner...
yea, lotman is a great example of knipe's development, but you make it seem like knipe had scraps to work with.
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Post by 30killspergame on Apr 29, 2012 17:07:54 GMT -5
long beach doesn't get highly touted recruits? budinger, tarr, lee, hildebrand, touzinsky, wootten, munoz, pestolesi, dean bittner... yea, lotman is a great example of knipe's development, but you make it seem like knipe had scraps to work with. most of those guys were not even that highly considered, some of them turned out to be great.. |
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Post by phildunphy on Apr 30, 2012 0:17:47 GMT -5
long beach doesn't get highly touted recruits? budinger, tarr, lee, hildebrand, touzinsky, wootten, munoz, pestolesi, dean bittner... yea, lotman is a great example of knipe's development, but you make it seem like knipe had scraps to work with. most of those guys were not even that highly considered, some of them turned out to be great.. Hmm... Tarr- 2002 Fab 50 Hildebrand-2002 Fab 50 Bittner- 2005 Fab 50 Pestolesi- 2006 Fab 50 (Middle Hitter only has data back to 2001) I am pretty sure Wooten and Touzinsky were not only Fab 50, but also USA JNT members. I guess being one of the best 50 players in your HS class isn't "highly" considered in your book...lol. |
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Post by notsocal2 on Apr 30, 2012 14:34:25 GMT -5
Not sure the national team job is better than a good college job for a number of reasons. If Speraw does end up with the UCLA job I'm not sure its a great idea taking off for four years right out of the gate to coach the national team. If speraw stays at Irvine that suggests to me he is happy there, and again not likely to bail to national team for next 4-8 years. I think Speraw would do a great job as the national team coach, I'm just not sure what his motivation would be to take it. Speraw would take the national team - for the challenge. Expect him there or at UCLA. I'm hoping this does not get in the way of the FF, or the national team's prep for the olympics. |
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Post by nbvball on Apr 30, 2012 15:30:15 GMT -5
Why can't a coach do both the NT and college? They do it all the time in basketball. Krzyzewski didn't need to leave Duke nor Geno Conneticut to coach in the Olympics.
If anything, Speraw could coach in the off seasons and then take the 2015-2016 year off as HC at UCLA to prepare for Brazil.
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