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Post by OptimusPrime on May 8, 2012 17:19:36 GMT -5
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Post by jake on May 8, 2012 18:05:35 GMT -5
....how great is that Obama Admin.?
...everyone needs to call their senators in US Congress and check it out.
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Post by OptimusPrime on May 9, 2012 11:57:52 GMT -5
True Jake but unfortunately...
Not too many truth seekers over here!! Just party line politics as usual.
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Post by lib4life on May 9, 2012 13:03:30 GMT -5
We need to help everyone who has come to this country looking for work. That's why I support Barack -- he is always trying to help the poor by redistributing money from the 1% to the 99%.
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Post by OptimusPrime on May 9, 2012 13:49:05 GMT -5
We need to help everyone who has come to this country looking for work. That's why I support Barack -- he is always trying to help the poor by redistributing money from the 1% to the 99%. did you even watch the news report video?  Does anyone think that if we just smuggled ourselves into France and demanded money from the government and walked in protest on the streets of Paris holding up signs that we are illegal but here to stay that they would just hand money over to us and we would not be arrested? Or Italy or Spain or .... |
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Post by whodatguy on May 10, 2012 21:36:04 GMT -5
We need to help everyone who has come to this country looking for work. That's why I support Barack -- he is always trying to help the poor by redistributing money from the 1% to the 99%. Admin-posing-as-board-user troll post. Utilized to spark argument and debate and extend this thread past it's natural shelf life. The preceeding public service announcement is brought to you by metamucil, ex lax, and depends. Three sponsors who know when the poop gets deep in here. |
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Post by Doppelganger on May 10, 2012 21:38:22 GMT -5
And you're gone. When we can prove a poster is lying, then we know he's on here just to troll.
Thank you for playing, but all 4 of your IDs are now banned.
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Post by Doppelganger on May 10, 2012 21:45:24 GMT -5
And lib4life, your IP address matches another poster on this forum. Please stop with the games.
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Post by BearClause on May 10, 2012 23:59:06 GMT -5
I don't understand why anyone is describing this as a tax loophole. This is a description of tax fraud. This is nothing unusual. People declare dependents who don't exist or who don't meet the legal requirements all the time.
I have no problem with the undocumented using ITINs. They pay taxes. They should be able to file tax returns and get their refund. I don't have an issue with rooting out tax fraud. However, there's a lot of tax fraud out there. This is frankly nothing compared to some of the crap that goes on.
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Post by holidayhusker on May 11, 2012 7:41:52 GMT -5
I don't understand why anyone is describing this as a tax loophole. This is a description of tax fraud. This is nothing unusual. People declare dependents who don't exist or who don't meet the legal requirements all the time. I have no problem with the undocumented using ITINs. They pay taxes. They should be able to file tax returns and get their refund. I don't have an issue with rooting out tax fraud. However, there's a lot of tax fraud out there. This is frankly nothing compared to some of the crap that goes on. Well, since this is minor to all the other tax frauds, we shouldn't concern ourselves? Do you realize how stupid that sounds? |
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Post by lonewolf on May 11, 2012 8:16:54 GMT -5
I don't understand why anyone is describing this as a tax loophole. This is a description of tax fraud. This is nothing unusual. People declare dependents who don't exist or who don't meet the legal requirements all the time. I have no problem with the undocumented using ITINs. They pay taxes. They should be able to file tax returns and get their refund. I don't have an issue with rooting out tax fraud. However, there's a lot of tax fraud out there. This is frankly nothing compared to some of the crap that goes on. Well, since this is minor to all the other tax frauds, we shouldn't concern ourselves? Do you realize how stupid that sounds? I think the translator program you're using isn't working correctly. He didn't say 'shouldn't concern ourselves with', he said there are larger abuses (that frankly cost the taxpayers more money - estimates would put this at less than ~1% of estimated tax fraud costs to the US) out there. It's about prioritizing. e.g. focusing primarily on this would be like a cop chasing down people that get to intersection a bit late and technically run a red light while driving past murders in progress. |
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Post by lonewolf on May 11, 2012 8:28:30 GMT -5
Is a issue that does need something to be done about it eventually, interesting that the News report didn't talk about the Tax consultants/tax preparers duty to not file information they know to be false
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Post by BearClause on May 11, 2012 10:19:06 GMT -5
Is a issue that does need something to be done about it eventually, interesting that the News report didn't talk about the Tax consultants/tax preparers duty to not file information they know to be false I saw the form. www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p972.pdfwww.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8812.pdfIf I were going to do anything about it, I would recommend that the credit's tax form itself require that all children claimed must be listed on the form with SSN. I listed my kid on my 1040 and had to include the SSN. Getting a legitimate child tax credit isn't a mistake or a loophole, regardless of the status of the parent. Deliberately claiming credits for children not living with the filer is. |
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Post by OptimusPrime on May 25, 2012 10:18:01 GMT -5
Is a issue that does need something to be done about it eventually, interesting that the News report didn't talk about the Tax consultants/tax preparers duty to not file information they know to be false I believe it was one of the tax preparers that brought this up to the attention of the new reporter. His or her name was kept out of the story for his or her protection. |
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