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Post by mikegarrison on Jul 19, 2012 14:40:41 GMT -5
That's one incredibly lame argument/article. I agree. Whenever there is talk about NCAA penalties, the response is almost always the same: But the guy who did it is gone! Why punish the kids who are there now? -- The answer is that you are punishing the program as a deterrence to that program and other programs. The NCAA has a lot of flaws, but one thing they do get right is that programs need to be held accountable. It is up to the programs to instill a culture that says ethics are more important than winning. When programs forget that, the lesson needs to be made to them. |
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Post by tomclen on Jul 19, 2012 19:24:29 GMT -5
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Post by jasonr on Jul 19, 2012 19:25:54 GMT -5
I talked to a friend who's a PSU alum, and it's just his opinion obviously, but he believes the Board of Trustees are trying to play the waiting game on levying any self-imposed changes and penalties believing that if they can get a couple more weeks away from that Sandusky trial that the national story will cool a bit and they'll be able to talk to the NCAA and avoid the football program being put on season suspension. He said the "protect you own" and "us against them" culture is as strong there as anywhere in the country, and that as horribly as many feel about what happened, he believes there's still a delusion among much of the alumni that cleaning house--which has mostly happened--and paying recompense in these civil suits, is all that should and will be done. Although he doesn't agree with that sentiment, he said he thinks the vast majority of the PSU community does believe that and that a punishment worse than that would make many of them feel like victims. That's how screwed up much of the thinking is around there, no joke.
It's unfortunate that there will be collateral damage to those that had no knowledge of what was happening, but if PSU isn't hammered over this, the NCAA may as well close up shop. Fortunately, it's Emmert running the show and not his predecessor Brand (not counting interim president Isch). Most around Brand believe he's ready to take significant action fairly soon. I'm guessing he just wants to make sure that new coaches and players have options once the hammer falls.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jul 19, 2012 21:24:52 GMT -5
You mean Emmert is ready to do something.
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Post by jasonr on Jul 19, 2012 21:41:48 GMT -5
You mean Emmert is ready to do something. Sent from my MB860 using ProBoards Yes, mistyped. |
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Post by truffleshuffle on Jul 20, 2012 10:39:03 GMT -5
That's one incredibly lame argument/article. says the guy who reposted an article dumping on penn state for being academically mediocre, based on an argument of school size versus us news & world report rankings. |
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Post by truffleshuffle on Jul 20, 2012 10:41:23 GMT -5
Fortunately, it's Emmert running the show and not his predecessor Brand (not counting interim president Isch). Most around Brand believe he's ready to take significant action fairly soon. I'm guessing he just wants to make sure that new coaches and players have options once the hammer falls. you really think the ncaa president is just going to unilaterally cancel the season of one of college football's most prominent programs? that is not how the ncaa or its enforcement arm work. |
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Post by truffleshuffle on Jul 21, 2012 7:59:14 GMT -5
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Post by avolleyfan on Jul 21, 2012 11:08:58 GMT -5
Yep...you can bank on it!
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Post by jake on Jul 21, 2012 12:47:40 GMT -5
It's unfortunate that there will be collateral damage to those that had no knowledge of what was happening, but if PSU isn't hammered over this, the NCAA may as well close up shop. Fortunately, it's Emmert running the show and not his predecessor Brand (not counting interim president Isch). Most around Emmert believe he's ready to take significant action fairly soon. I'm guessing he just wants to make sure that new coaches and players have options once the hammer falls.[/quote]
It is my guess that the state's governor's job is on the line, too,...if the hammer doesn't fall and fall hard.
The gates around the practice field will remain closed this season on campus.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jul 21, 2012 14:10:48 GMT -5
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Post by Not Me on Jul 21, 2012 18:31:36 GMT -5
Stole this from Bill Simmons:
If this were a math professor at MIT doing this, and there was a coverup that was exposed, would you suggest they get rid of the math department at MIT?
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Post by avolleyfan on Jul 21, 2012 19:16:59 GMT -5
Comparing academics and athletics in an institution for learning...really?
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Post by tomclen on Jul 21, 2012 21:27:46 GMT -5
Stole this from Bill Simmons: If this were a math professor at MIT doing this, and there was a coverup that was exposed, would you suggest they get rid of the math department at MIT? The more obvious comparison, especially to this board, would be a University president and head volleyball coach at a VB powerhouse doing a decade long coverup of a high-profile female assistant coach sexually assaulting young girls in a VB camp. Would that school suspend the VB program, for at least a season or two? I'd sure hope so. |
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Post by lonewolf on Jul 21, 2012 23:05:49 GMT -5
Stole this from Bill Simmons: If this were a math professor at MIT doing this, and there was a coverup that was exposed, would you suggest they get rid of the math department at MIT? The more obvious comparison, especially to this board, would be a University president and head volleyball coach at a VB powerhouse doing a decade long coverup of a high-profile female assistant coach sexually assaulting young girls in a VB camp. Would that school suspend the VB program, for at least a season or two? I'd sure hope so. So, we should shut down all the catholic churches for several years then? Along with police departments, and the branches of the military? |
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