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Post by OverAndUnder on Aug 7, 2012 7:49:31 GMT -5
Um, this IS still the NCAA eligibility rule set we're talking about isn't it? Why would "splitting hairs" be out of the picture?
Also, didn't some Minnesota or SoCal player get in trouble about four years ago for playing in some mid-level beach tournament and winning?
NCAA title rings are given BY the NCAA. I'm fairly certain they already have a self-exemption. The question is about a completely non-NCAA rent where athletes are competing with and against other people who may be paid professionals, and part of the winnings include assets with tangible value such as money or prizes.
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Post by azvb on Aug 7, 2012 11:14:51 GMT -5
Missy Franklin was the athlete I had in mind when I started this thread. She is "missing out" on some big money from these Olympics. She could have millions in endorsements if she wanted to cash in. She says she wants to swim her senior year and also in college. I just wondered if USOC $ would be exempt.
As far as being pro in one sport, eligible in another, now that beach is a NCAA sport, would beach vball be considered a different sport than indoor?
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Post by volleyballhawk on Aug 7, 2012 15:25:22 GMT -5
Yes, beach and indoor are no way associated with one another in the NCAA. They're entirely different sports.
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Post by geddyleemarvin on Aug 7, 2012 15:33:51 GMT -5
Yes, beach and indoor are no way associated with one another in the NCAA. They're entirely different sports. That's certainly true, but interestingly enough the NCAA has never allowed indoor players to accept prize money won in beach tournaments. Summer Ross, Jane Croson, Alex Jupiter, Tony Ciarelli, Kevin Tillie and many others have all had to decline their winnings to remain amateurs.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 7, 2012 15:37:59 GMT -5
Yes, beach and indoor are no way associated with one another in the NCAA. They're entirely different sports. That's certainly true, but interestingly enough the NCAA has never allowed indoor players to accept prize money won in beach tournaments. Summer Ross, Jane Croson, Alex Jupiter, Tony Ciarelli, Kevin Tillie and many others have all had to decline their winnings to remain amateurs. That was before there was Sand Volleyball, so probably the thinking was that "volleyball is volleyball." Now that there is specifically a division between sand and indoor, it will be an interesting test of the NCAA process if someone asks to be able to play sand professionally and retain amateur status indoors, or vice versa.
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Post by Pirate VB Fan on Aug 7, 2012 16:22:17 GMT -5
Regardless of their worth, the NCAA does not consider accepting a medal to make one a professional. Now if you sold said medal, then you might get in trouble. Sort of like those football players that sold the stuff they received from a bowl game. I think you can receive quite a bit of merchandise (the amount $2000 sticks in my head) and it not affect your amateur standing, much less medals.
Money is a different thing. Anything over "expenses" would cause you to lose eligibility.
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Post by avocado on Aug 21, 2012 11:29:49 GMT -5
You may accept expense money before enrollment in college. You may NOT accept expense money after enrollment in college. ---Exception for individual sports only. Sand and indoor are team sports. Also an exception if events are part of preparing or qualifying for the Olympics. Sand volleyball and indoor vb are separate Varsity sports, but are considered the same sport for amateurism and outside competition rules. Disclaimer: Verify all of this with your compliance office.
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Post by mikegarrison on Aug 21, 2012 11:32:34 GMT -5
Thanks. And yeah, I certainly hope no athletes are using speculation we discuss here in lieu of getting the information directly from their compliance office.
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Post by azvb on Aug 21, 2012 15:21:35 GMT -5
You may accept expense money before enrollment in college. You may NOT accept expense money after enrollment in college. ---Exception for individual sports only. Sand and indoor are team sports. Also an exception if events are part of preparing or qualifying for the Olympics. Sand volleyball and indoor vb are separate Varsity sports, but are considered the same sport for amateurism and outside competition rules. Disclaimer: Verify all of this with your compliance office. Huh. Did not know that. So the USAVB stuff college kids are invited to in the summer comes out of their own pocket? Or are those considered preparing for the Olympics?
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Post by loihi on Nov 12, 2012 8:46:17 GMT -5
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