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Post by esneed on Oct 22, 2019 15:53:26 GMT -5
Can't blame wanting more...
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Post by horns1 on Oct 22, 2019 16:20:37 GMT -5
I have a point for everyone here...whose to say Texas isn't recruiting these all around players currently. Regarding the "misses" on Pressly and McGhee, I understand both as Sun was literally the #1 recruit and much farther along than Pressly was at that time, and Molly was considered by many the best MB in the class. This brings me into the next point... Is it inferred that if you live in Texas (or anywhere for that matter) and UT recruits you it is an automatic grab (actual question)? Just because UT hasn't gotten these crazy good ball control outsides doesn't mean that they were't recruited by UT. Im not even a Texas fan but until I see actual evidence that UT hasn't recruited "complete players" the Texas recruiting criticism can stop. Well, it is a fact that Texas recruited Haley Hodson as I saw her visiting Texas during one of the regionals at Gregory Gym. And, she chose Stanford.
And, no, in-state kids don't always choose Texas. Jerritt recently mentioned that some 2021 recruits they offered decided to go elsewhere as they wanted immediate playing time.
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Post by stevehorn on Oct 22, 2019 16:36:32 GMT -5
I have a point for everyone here...whose to say Texas isn't recruiting these all around players currently. Regarding the "misses" on Pressly and McGhee, I understand both as Sun was literally the #1 recruit and much farther along than Pressly was at that time, and Molly was considered by many the best MB in the class. This brings me into the next point... Is it inferred that if you live in Texas (or anywhere for that matter) and UT recruits you it is an automatic grab (actual question)? Just because UT hasn't gotten these crazy good ball control outsides doesn't mean that they were't recruited by UT. Im not even a Texas fan but until I see actual evidence that UT hasn't recruited "complete players" the Texas recruiting criticism can stop. Excellent post and one that could be applied to almost every program (and especially their fanbase).
In this specific case, I think we have a poster believing that utopian all-around players are plentiful and all Texas needs to do is recruit them. Something I've found out in following sports over my lifetime that true elite 5-tool players (to use a baseball analogy) are pretty rare as recruits. What you have much more often are recruits that are good at "everything", but elite at nothing.
To compete at the highest level, you most often recruit players that are elite at the primary skill(s) needed at the position and at least good to very good at one or two other skills. If they have a skill that is lacking, you then work on improving that skill through their career and/or scheme around the weakness to reduce its impact on the team. If we are talking about OH, I think you want one with elite terminating skill. The primary role of the outside is to score points. You also want them to be at least good to very good at blocking so that they don't give up as many points as they score. Also a good server as they typically will be part of the regular serving rotation. If the player has those skills, it would be a bonus if they are a good backrow player as a recruit, but you aren't going to turn down an elite hitter for someone with lesser offensive skills but better backrow skills.
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Post by hornshouse23 on Oct 22, 2019 17:43:19 GMT -5
This entire conversation reminds me of a one Ms. Amy Neal.
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 22, 2019 20:09:52 GMT -5
Tough choices for the coaching staff every recruiting class. In 2017, we took Lexi Sun at OH; Pressley was still "raw" based on previous comments. For 2019, we took Molly Phillips at MB; not sure the exact timeline on her offer/commitment versus our interest in McGhee, but pretty sure Molly committed fairly early (prior to her junior year in high school?). For some of these years it isn't really that tough. Nobody has a crystal ball. No offense to the player Pressley turned out to be, which, given her senior aces ranking, many recruiting coaches didn't predict accurately, but Sun was one of those prep players every college coach dreamed of recruiting. She may be leaving sour feelings because of what she's actually done in college, but this isn't one of those hindsight is 20/20 things....As a sophomore in high school, if given the choice to sign Sun, you sign Sun. Phillips was a monster prep player too. The very definition of an impact player. You also don't pass that up either.
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Post by hornfanaustin on Oct 22, 2019 20:50:26 GMT -5
Tough choices for the coaching staff every recruiting class. In 2017, we took Lexi Sun at OH; Pressley was still "raw" based on previous comments. For 2019, we took Molly Phillips at MB; not sure the exact timeline on her offer/commitment versus our interest in McGhee, but pretty sure Molly committed fairly early (prior to her junior year in high school?). For some of these years it isn't really that tough. Nobody has a crystal ball. No offense to the player Pressley turned out to be, which, given her senior aces ranking, many recruiting coaches didn't predict accurately, but Sun was one of those prep players every college coach dreamed of recruiting. She may be leaving sour feelings because of what she's actually done in college, but this isn't one of those hindsight is 20/20 things....As a sophomore in high school, if given the choice to sign Sun, you sign Sun. Phillips was a monster prep player too. The very definition of an impact player. You also don't pass that up either. We've had the #4 recruit from 2016 sitting on the bench for 4 years. So yeah, those rankings are just numbers.
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Post by horns1 on Oct 23, 2019 23:32:54 GMT -5
Same thinking says Baylor players are more balanced offensive/defensively as individuals than UT players and Wednesday game will show that. UT hitting and blocking needs to step it up. I know it's difficult for you to see beyond the limited vision but try. There's still laughter in my head!
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Post by esneed on Oct 23, 2019 23:58:00 GMT -5
Same thinking says Baylor players are more balanced offensive/defensively as individuals than UT players and Wednesday game will show that. UT hitting and blocking needs to step it up. I know it's difficult for you to see beyond the limited vision but try. There's still laughter in my head! If you look at my thread on the game yesterday I also said the middle / blocks will be what will win it for UT. I re-asserted that after their winning (http://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/78846/baylor-texas-cdt-pdt-lhn?page=47). Butler proved that tonight with her hitting and blocks. Baylor is more balanced in both (as individual players) but UT has Butler for a middle so there you go. I'm glad UT won. Just because I try to point out things I wish were different doesn't mean I troll! Now and future will rely on her. Butler IS the game changing player for UT. My past discussion is for more of her on DS side.
Keep taking things out of context. You are like that little pissoff kid at school who just about annoys everyone.
Just for proof...
pages - 104 105 107 108
you are just a jerk to everyone whose view does not align with yours. you are borderline ped for parra (can't tire enough of watching her???).
page 117 - other posters notice you the whiners on this board and horns1 calls him ass and troll
you are abrasive...if someone is wrong just point it out without being a tit
page 118 huskerpower1 called you out and exactly what i said....sensitive
dude, even on these boards you are a reject, i could imagine in person of how a reject you are....stop attacking ppl
Did your parents not cuddle you enough as a child?
There's shaking my head at you...
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Post by vbjustice on Oct 24, 2019 1:07:25 GMT -5
For some of these years it isn't really that tough. Nobody has a crystal ball. No offense to the player Pressley turned out to be, which, given her senior aces ranking, many recruiting coaches didn't predict accurately, but Sun was one of those prep players every college coach dreamed of recruiting. She may be leaving sour feelings because of what she's actually done in college, but this isn't one of those hindsight is 20/20 things....As a sophomore in high school, if given the choice to sign Sun, you sign Sun. Phillips was a monster prep player too. The very definition of an impact player. You also don't pass that up either. We've had the #4 recruit from 2016 sitting on the bench for 4 years. So yeah, those rankings are just numbers. Ain’t that the truth
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Post by stevehorn on Oct 24, 2019 14:21:44 GMT -5
Same thinking says Baylor players are more balanced offensive/defensively as individuals than UT players and Wednesday game will show that. UT hitting and blocking needs to step it up. I know it's difficult for you to see beyond the limited vision but try. I guess you were correct that Baylor players were more balanced offensively/defensively. Not very good at either.
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Post by longhorn9214 on Oct 24, 2019 14:30:49 GMT -5
I wonder if any potential recruits were there last night.
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Post by mln59 on Oct 24, 2019 14:34:32 GMT -5
I wonder if any potential recruits were there last night. i hope so. what an environment for a recruit. super amped up with some great volley-of-the-ball
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Post by hornfanaustin on Oct 24, 2019 16:19:38 GMT -5
I wonder if any potential recruits were there last night. Interesting thing I learned from the watching the replay was that Skylar Fields fell in love with Texas when she came along on a recruiting trip with her older sister Sydnye Fields. Sydnye eventually chose
North Carolina.
Then later, Sydnye transferred to Texas A&M her redshirt-junior year and then wasn't on the roster for her 5th year. May have graduated.
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Post by esneed on Oct 25, 2019 6:40:34 GMT -5
Same thinking says Baylor players are more balanced offensive/defensively as individuals than UT players and Wednesday game will show that. UT hitting and blocking needs to step it up. I know it's difficult for you to see beyond the limited vision but try. I guess you were correct that Baylor players were more balanced offensively/defensively. Not very good at either. It doesn't matter when you have a player like Butler. She's the best player on both sides of the court period. She's the type of player I advocate in finding - defensive and offensive power.
Let's see how Baylor does on their home court next.
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Post by stevehorn on Oct 25, 2019 8:00:10 GMT -5
I guess you were correct that Baylor players were more balanced offensively/defensively. Not very good at either. It doesn't matter when you have a player like Butler. She's the best player on both sides of the court period. She's the type of player I advocate in finding - defensive and offensive power.
Let's see how Baylor does on their home court next.
Well I see we have another poster that believes they know more than the coaching staff and are unable to admit that their hot takes are off base.
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