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Post by redbeard2008 on Oct 16, 2013 16:18:45 GMT -5
HC three seasons and has won 1 National Championship. Any coaching change disrupts recruiting. Remember that Love transferred in, which helped compensate for players who transferred out. You might not start to benefit from a championship for five years, due to the long recruiting lead times involved. In the mean time, stepping into a hole can hurt you.
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Post by tjkbay on Oct 17, 2013 16:10:10 GMT -5
The problem is Sealy doesn't know how to recruit and motivate his players. I wont be surprised if he is fired to give way for Karch. But before that, Joy will most probably be let go after this disastrous season. Joy has done such a horrible job at UCLA. The problem is that ucla does not have consistent go-to outsides that can put the ball away. UCLA is constantly struggling with their pins and kelly reeves can't do it alone, especially considering her size. whenever they stuggle maddy klineman will come in and there is just no conistency in the offense
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Post by ballervolley on Oct 17, 2013 18:31:11 GMT -5
it is bar none the setting it is awful no matter how good the pass or how good the hitters if the setters arent delivering, the level of play takes a severe hit. have you ever played with a setter that set the ball off then on or high then too low or trapped you? it is frustrating, maddening, and irritating in this case ucla has 2 of them doing that. i dont know what he saw in stauber.
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Post by herdmentality on Oct 17, 2013 21:56:49 GMT -5
it is bar none the setting it is awful no matter how good the pass or how good the hitters if the setters arent delivering, the level of play takes a severe hit. have you ever played with a setter that set the ball off then on or high then too low or trapped you? it is frustrating, maddening, and irritating in this case ucla has 2 of them doing that. i dont know what he saw in stauber. He didn't see anything. Joy did and they needed a back up, which they can get for free.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Oct 17, 2013 22:08:58 GMT -5
HC three seasons and has won 1 National Championship. Any coaching change disrupts recruiting. Remember that Love transferred in, which helped compensate for players who transferred out. You might not start to benefit from a championship for five years, due to the long recruiting lead times involved. In the mean time, stepping into a hole can hurt you. Im sorry I totally disagree. 5 years to benefit from a title? Those kids would be 7th graders. Obviously your already going to have your incoming class before you win the title, but they weren't finished in the next class yet, and that still would leave 8th, 9th and 10th graders. Its not like they were Alcorn St and won a title either. UCLA is always in the hunt for top kids. I think youre making a very big excuse. I will give you a year, maybe two (a stretch) but 5 is silly.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Oct 18, 2013 0:32:39 GMT -5
Any coaching change disrupts recruiting. Remember that Love transferred in, which helped compensate for players who transferred out. You might not start to benefit from a championship for five years, due to the long recruiting lead times involved. In the mean time, stepping into a hole can hurt you. Im sorry I totally disagree. 5 years to benefit from a title? Those kids would be 7th graders. Obviously your already going to have your incoming class before you win the title, but they weren't finished in the next class yet, and that still would leave 8th, 9th and 10th graders. Its not like they were Alcorn St and won a title either. UCLA is always in the hunt for top kids. I think youre making a very big excuse. I will give you a year, maybe two (a stretch) but 5 is silly. Actually eighth graders (9, 10, 11, 12, frosh). It helps to be on their radar before you try to recruit them. When UW won the championship in 2005, Krista Vansant was a seventh grader. By the time the top recruits are ninth graders, get in line. Maybe a PSU or a Nebraska can come in late and turn a recruit, but that's not the case with most schools. It helps, of course, if you don't step into a post-hole afterwards. Not a Bruin fan, so no skin in the game.
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Post by Sbilo on Oct 18, 2013 1:54:15 GMT -5
Poor recruiting I guess. Most top California players would either play for USC or Stanford or Cal or Washington which is kind of ironic given UCLA's 2011 championship.
And I would agree, they don't have enough firepower in the OH that will let them compete for the top spot. Reeves can't terminate on a high level, Lawless and Klineman just not enough. Its a bit surprising to me though about Lawless' progress. I've followed her a bit while still in high school and she was dominant back then and I was expecting it would translate to collegiate level.
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Post by ballervolley on Oct 18, 2013 2:12:29 GMT -5
it is bar none the setting it is awful no matter how good the pass or how good the hitters if the setters arent delivering, the level of play takes a severe hit. have you ever played with a setter that set the ball off then on or high then too low or trapped you? it is frustrating, maddening, and irritating in this case ucla has 2 of them doing that. i dont know what he saw in stauber. He didn't see anything. Joy did and they needed a back up, which they can get for free. well "they" im sure this had to go through sealy also. their hitters could be legit if they had better setters
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Post by BeiBei on Oct 18, 2013 6:56:17 GMT -5
All 3 coaches are setters and yet UCLA's biggest problem is setting
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Post by GoUCLA on Oct 18, 2013 9:27:13 GMT -5
All 3 coaches are setters and yet UCLA's biggest problem is setting From one volleyball fan to another, do you care to share what your beef with UCLA is? I'm just curious.
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Post by Word on Oct 18, 2013 9:53:57 GMT -5
It's not one thing. It's all the above. Recruiting, inconsistent setting, lack of OH development, injuries.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Oct 18, 2013 13:01:16 GMT -5
One has to wonder if he'd started Strehlow from the start, instead of yo-yoing the setters, whether she still would have transferred. Of course, then both setters might have transferred...
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 18, 2013 17:51:11 GMT -5
Wasn't Sealy a decent recruiter as an assistant at Hawaii? I know Wahine fans on VT thought recruiting dropped off when he left.
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Post by FOBRA on Oct 18, 2013 19:04:42 GMT -5
I think the recruiting expectation at Hawaii is certainly lower than UCLA. I think his recruiting classes have been fine, he just hasn't been able to land the big fish compared to USC/Stanford/Washington which is that next level people are expecting (especially with a championship ring to show off). I think 2014 is the first Sealy class that really looks like a problem, in that there's only 1 scholarship commit so far. He's going to have to really pull some sleepers/transfers/foreign players if wants to dramatically improve the team.
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Post by n00b on Oct 20, 2013 13:33:39 GMT -5
Lawless goes down in Set 1 against Arizona State with an apparent knee injury. Tough break for Haley and the Bruins.
(UCLA still pulled out a 25-23 win in the set)
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