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Post by ucsdfan on Jan 9, 2014 21:23:36 GMT -5
What's the ruling on roster changes? It ends up that Matt West is out indefinitely. That was okay and something to work around. But it ends up that Ryan Mather, who was listed on the GCU active roster when I looked, is now redshirting.
If we are running six players of our eight, it's a hazard I can live with. If we are running seven, then I'd love to know what week the roster changes are being done. What's the concensus opinion?
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Post by Stanlifornia on Jan 9, 2014 21:47:55 GMT -5
I think we run 7/8 from my understanding.
I do like the idea of having 2 extra players instead of just 1. Like if we run 7 active that week with a 9-man roster. Having just one extra player seems a little tight. Other thoughts?
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Post by middleman2010 on Jan 9, 2014 21:52:04 GMT -5
I just went on Grand Canyon site, and it was dated today that he is redshirting because of a preseason injury.
I would think you should be able to replace him without costing you a roster change. I think that would be fair.
I also would like to know about Mckenndre's roster, can any one take a player from them.
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Post by Stanlifornia on Jan 9, 2014 21:59:55 GMT -5
Or perhaps a "fair" way of doing it would be to run the draft as is right now until the last pick and have a roster drop/ add option for a day. Maybe pm Swaney/ CNM or post right on here? Looks like we'll be done by tomorrow, so maybe beginning Saturday say at midnight?
I haven't taken a player from the Mc roster because as I understood it, only D1 schools correct?
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Post by ucsdfan on Jan 9, 2014 22:10:23 GMT -5
Or perhaps a "fair" way of doing it would be to run the draft as is right now until the last pick and have a roster drop/ add option for a day. Maybe pm Swaney/ CNM or post right on here? Looks like we'll be done by tomorrow, so maybe beginning Saturday say at midnight? I haven't taken a player from the Mc roster because as I understood it, only D1 schools correct? I too have followed the same guideline. The first two years we did this, we had only MPSF, EIVA, MIVA teams. The main reason for this was because it was a logistic nightmare to track so many teams each week. Given that Conference Carolinas players were acceptable this year, it seems like any MIVA, EIVA, MPSF, or D2 school is good to go. My vote is yes. But I defer to Cube and Swaneys for the final say. I think if we do this again next year we need to be as specific as we were the last two years before the draft begins. Or better yet, make it so that we have to have at least one player from each of the four conferences, but no more than three from any single conference. The way this draft has gone, it's a group that is well versed enough to do that. add a new element. So as for my wanting to replace Mather from the start, so far the votes are: Stanlifornia: Up the draft to nine players middleman2010: Yes I'm happy with either, but would like to know before I make my 7th and 8th picks. If I'm stuck with Mather, then I need to go a different way with my draft than the picks I PMed to Cubicle. If it's okay that I switch Mather out, then I'll wait until the draft is done. Please Cube or Swaneys, let me know when you have a chance.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2014 22:14:40 GMT -5
I'm open to whatever the majority of people want to do with Mckendree and draft picks moving to 9. I understand that it is late in the game for that, but upon hearing more they aren't as isolated as I had previously thought. I think at this time its best to run 7/8 for the first scoring week, but we can continue the draft throughout the first week as long as the 9th round players are not in the active lineup. I don't think its really fair if people get a good look at players, playing time before they pick - thats the crux of a draft (you never know who's going to officially play wherever). As always, just my opinions. I'm the moderator, not the rules making czar and want to have this be as fun as possible for people. If enough people want a change, I'm always for it
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Post by eastcoastvolleyball on Jan 9, 2014 22:15:22 GMT -5
On a side note, whoever picked up Robbie Page lucked out. The guy is doing a hitting clinic against Penn State, 14 kills over 1 error, hitting .650, in the middle of g3
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2014 22:16:38 GMT -5
On a side note, whoever picked up Robbie Page lucked out. The guy is doing a hitting clinic against Penn State, 14 kills over 1 error, hitting .650, in the middle of g3 I was absolutely amazed that he fell to me that late
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Post by ucsdfan on Jan 9, 2014 22:41:17 GMT -5
I'm open to whatever the majority of people want to do with Mckendree and draft picks moving to 9. I understand that it is late in the game for that, but upon hearing more they aren't as isolated as I had previously thought. I think at this time its best to run 7/8 for the first scoring week, but we can continue the draft throughout the first week as long as the 9th round players are not in the active lineup. I don't think its really fair if people get a good look at players, playing time before they pick - thats the crux of a draft (you never know who's going to officially play wherever). As always, just my opinions. I'm the moderator, not the rules making czar and want to have this be as fun as possible for people. If enough people want a change, I'm always for it So basically it's "no" to replacing a redshirt player that was listed as active at the start of the draft? Two years ago there was a similar situation and the player was replaced following the last draft pick. You're the moderator, so it's 'no' this season. As such, I need a little more time on my last two picks. When will you have a solid answer as to what's happening with a ninth pick? I'd like to hold off on my picks until that is decided. Whatever we do, let's set rules, because there are many loopholes right now.
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Jan 9, 2014 22:49:46 GMT -5
my 2 cents ... first -- if we're having 7 players be active each week, it would make sense (to me) to enlarge the roster a little... maybe to 9. we could just extend the current draft by one more round. i'm willing to help swaneys14 moderate the remainder of the draft, including an extra round. second -- as for the "add/drop" rule. i went back and looked at swaneys' earlier thread, and his summary contemplated 2 add/drops (one to be used any time, and the second to be used at a point mid-season). how about we stick to the 2 "add/drop" rule, but simplify it a little. you can use your 2 "add/drops": (1) at any point during the season, for whatever reason (injury, player slumping, player ends up redshirting), and (2) you can use them only up to a cutoff date (similar to the trading deadline in baseball). as an example, since we're looking at a 9-week season, we can say the last day you can use your "add/drops" is at the end of the 6th week of our season. (my suggestion on the "add/drop" rule addresses some immediate concerns. i see it as kind of a compromise. posters have the benefit of adding/dropping immediately following the draft, while also preserving the results of the draft so far.) what do you think?
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Jan 9, 2014 22:56:35 GMT -5
**bump** (in case volleyballbro re-joins the thread, he'll see what current status of the draft is...) Edit: volleyballbro is still on the clock for rd 7.
but i've heard from marshall, whose rd 6 pick is: Eric Zaun Jr Limestone OH (and he's also pm'd his rd 7 pick). Rd 7 (picks so far)1) Cubicle no more – peter hutz, s, loyola 2) Middleman – michael brinkley, lib, uci 3) Arick – [pass] 4) Stanlifornia – aiden albrecht, opp, penn st (TRUE FRESHMAN) 5) Eastcoastvolleyball - madison mckibbin, opp, usc 6) Vballfreak808 - jace olsen, oh, hawaii 7) Volleyballbro - ON THE CLOCK8) swaneys14 9) Marshall 10) volleyball20102011 11) ucsdfan volleyballbro is on the clock swaneys14 will be ready for his next pick marshall -- we lost ya along the way, but hopefully you'll be back . he's back, and provided his rd 6 pick from earlier, as well as a rd 7 pick when it's his turn again. volleyball20102011 -- we still have a list of his ongoing picks ucsdfan, get ready! he has pm'd (but may revise) his picks for rd 7/8.
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Post by middleman2010 on Jan 9, 2014 23:08:32 GMT -5
I am good with what ever every one thinks. I could fill my tail end of my roster with MIVA guys I know.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 9, 2014 23:30:33 GMT -5
It seems as if this situation just requires a bit of a strong arm and then we can go back and alter it if there is negative feedback: -In the case of replacing a now redshirted player, I'm all for a repack, but only after the draft has concluded. I don't believe it is fair to everyone else if you were to get an "extra" pick (for lack of abetter term). -We will be extending the roster size to 9 players with a consequent 9th round in the draft. -The active limit for a week in the league is 7 players (one of which is a libero) -We'll keep add/drop at two, but they can be used at any time
That cover all the inefficiencies? Thoughts?
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Post by ucsdfan on Jan 9, 2014 23:40:03 GMT -5
I think at issue here is that there were some written rules from the past seasons that were assumed to be unwritten rules by some of the vets (including me). I made some assumptions about which schools were good to go, as I think others did too. So, I now assume any player from any college is good to go. In the interest of full disclosure to other vets, I'm going to take advantage of that starting in the 8th round, hoping to be fair to the other veterans who didn't take a non-MIVA, non-PSUIVA, and non-MPSF player in the first seven rounds either.
Thanks for handling the Mather scenario the way Collegiatez did it our first year (he made the call to let the last-minute redshirt announcement be replaced at the end of the draft like a supplemental pick).
Does that choice get made at the end of the 8th (before the first matches) or after the 9th?
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Jan 9, 2014 23:46:50 GMT -5
It seems as if this situation just requires a bit of a strong arm and then we can go back and alter it if there is negative feedback: -In the case of replacing a now redshirted player, I'm all for a repack, but only after the draft has concluded. I don't believe it is fair to everyone else if you were to get an "extra" pick (for lack of abetter term). -We will be extending the roster size to 9 players with a consequent 9th round in the draft. -The active limit for a week in the league is 7 players (one of which is a libero) -We'll keep add/drop at two, but they can be used at any time That cover all the inefficiencies? Thoughts? I'm in agreement !! (now where's volleyballbro? ... we got an extra round to get through! lol )
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