|
Post by vinnielopes on Apr 20, 2014 16:58:15 GMT -5
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 17:19:57 GMT -5
I like it. But I did chuckle when it said "have predicted every tournament right since 2011". All you had to do then was predict one team lol but I do like the article.
|
|
|
Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 20, 2014 17:52:25 GMT -5
the criteria for home and road records is just plain bad without factoring SOS.
It is a category the MPSF teams have a large bias against them, given the overall level of competition within the conference.
The only way to rectify would be to probably have the MPSF take away 4 or so games each year, so the MPSF could schedule a couple of extra home and away series with the east coast teams (assuming they could get those scheduled) - which may not be altogether practical - it is what it is.
|
|
|
Post by rambler63 on Apr 20, 2014 18:01:09 GMT -5
With Pacific gone from the MPSF next year, there should be two more opportunities for MPSF teams to play OOC matches.
|
|
|
Post by BeachbytheBay on Apr 20, 2014 18:08:44 GMT -5
the best thing the MPSF could do is split into two conferences, Big West (LB, UCI, UCSB, North, Haw + 1 team, UCSD?), and USC, Pepp, UCLA, Stan, BYU, + Cal Bap? in the other.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2014 18:10:21 GMT -5
the best thing the MPSF could do is split into two conferences, Big West (LB, UCI, UCSB, North, Haw + 1 team, UCSD?), and USC, Pepp, UCLA, Stan, BYU, + Cal Bap? in the other. But then one would lose an AQ for two years and anyway you need 7 schools in a conference to keep an AQ and one of those conferences would be short a team.
|
|
|
Post by vbc1 on Apr 21, 2014 11:27:22 GMT -5
the best thing the MPSF could do is split into two conferences, Big West (LB, UCI, UCSB, North, Haw + 1 team, UCSD?), and USC, Pepp, UCLA, Stan, BYU, + Cal Bap? in the other. But then one would lose an AQ for two years and anyway you need 7 schools in a conference to keep an AQ and one of those conferences would be short a team. Not necessarily. Because there are teams in the conference that have made the national tournament before, the NCAA makes concessions and allows conferences to split and still keep their good standing with AQ's. I believe hockey did it a few years back, and there was another sport that did it as well. I would totally agree that the MPSF should split into two separate conferences. If I am UCSD, Cal Bap, CSUN, or Hawaii for that matter, I am looking at my previous 10 years of performance, and I am thinking to myself that it would be easier to fight for a AQ against teams like mine, rather than go up against UCLA, USC, Stanford, and BYU. It makes sense. But I am not sure that those coaches are thinking that way. Besides, that would open up their schedules for matches against other teams from around the country, and they might have to actually travel somewhere else to play a match. And we all know how that goes.
|
|
|
Post by robonthemic on Apr 22, 2014 14:50:23 GMT -5
May have missed it in an earlier thread or discussion, but what happens if for some reason Loyola loses to IPFW or Lewis in their conference Tourney?
|
|
|
Post by vinnielopes on Apr 22, 2014 17:22:20 GMT -5
robonthemic: Loyola has the No. 1 seed locked-up regardless of what they do the rest of the MIVA Tournament. What that would create though is a very interesting situation in the MPSF because you'd have one less at-large bid. So basically if you are a fan of BYU, Pepperdine, Stanford or UC Santa Barbara you are cheering like no other for Loyola these next few days. The ideal situation for MPSF fans right now is both Loyola and Ball State win the MIVA Tournament semifinals and then Loyola wins the championship.
|
|
|
Post by psuvbfan10 on Apr 22, 2014 20:11:44 GMT -5
I can't see how PSU climbs to #3, do they really have the resume to get to #3 and avoid the play in round?
|
|
|
Post by gobruins on Apr 23, 2014 7:05:23 GMT -5
robonthemic: Loyola has the No. 1 seed locked-up regardless of what they do the rest of the MIVA Tournament. What that would create though is a very interesting situation in the MPSF because you'd have one less at-large bid. So basically if you are a fan of BYU, Pepperdine, Stanford or UC Santa Barbara you are cheering like no other for Loyola these next few days. The ideal situation for MPSF fans right now is both Loyola and Ball State win the MIVA Tournament semifinals and then Loyola wins the championship. Here is a slightly different perspective: If you are a fan of an MPSF team that is confidant your team will get into the tournament, you want Loyola to lose the MIVA, so there will be one less strong MPSF team in the NCAA tournament. If you are BYU, would you rather have a semi-final match with Lewis or Pepperdine?
|
|
|
Post by midwestvolleyball on Apr 23, 2014 7:58:57 GMT -5
robonthemic: Loyola has the No. 1 seed locked-up regardless of what they do the rest of the MIVA Tournament. What that would create though is a very interesting situation in the MPSF because you'd have one less at-large bid. So basically if you are a fan of BYU, Pepperdine, Stanford or UC Santa Barbara you are cheering like no other for Loyola these next few days. The ideal situation for MPSF fans right now is both Loyola and Ball State win the MIVA Tournament semifinals and then Loyola wins the championship. Here is a slightly different perspective: If you are a fan of an MPSF team that is confidant your team will get into the tournament, you want Loyola to lose the MIVA, so there will be one less strong MPSF team in the NCAA tournament. If you are BYU, would you rather have a semi-final match with Lewis or Pepperdine? That's an interesting comment. I understand your logic that a strong MPSF team would rather play a "weaker" MIVA team like Lewis but you have to remember that it'll essentially be a home match for Lewis in Chicago so if two MPSF teams play it will be a match on a neutral court. I think if Lewis somehow takes down Loyola to advance to the NCAAs that they would be a more dangerous team to play than an MPSF team that has to travel just as far as the other MPSF team. BYU also didn't fair well against Lewis in Chivago earlier this year.
|
|
|
Post by vbc1 on Apr 23, 2014 19:51:18 GMT -5
I can't see how PSU climbs to #3, do they really have the resume to get to #3 and avoid the play in round? They would still have to play in the quarters, against the Conference Carolina team. Only the top 2 teams get a bye into the national semi's. And, according to the criteria, they have a strong chance to get the nod to be #3 if UCSB does win the tourney.
|
|
|
Post by baywatcher on Apr 24, 2014 1:23:51 GMT -5
From a skewed point of view I suppose Penn State has a chance for #3, but they did lose to UCLA, Hawaii, and Long Beach State, one of whom didn't make their tourney and the other two lost in the first round. So not losses to oter Finals candidates, but not quality losses, either. Also lost to Loyola. Penn State did travel to all those matches; thousands of miles to the first three, and needs to be given a break for that, but the fact remains their "Quality" wins are on the low side (Lewis, or Ball State, or both?)
|
|
|
Post by robonthemic on Apr 24, 2014 10:32:33 GMT -5
robonthemic: Loyola has the No. 1 seed locked-up regardless of what they do the rest of the MIVA Tournament. What that would create though is a very interesting situation in the MPSF because you'd have one less at-large bid. So basically if you are a fan of BYU, Pepperdine, Stanford or UC Santa Barbara you are cheering like no other for Loyola these next few days. The ideal situation for MPSF fans right now is both Loyola and Ball State win the MIVA Tournament semifinals and then Loyola wins the championship. Thanks Vinnie. I knew you'd know! Lewis has 3 solid attackers in Power, Petty and Fitterer and they all seem to be performing at a high clip. That MIVA Championship match is going to come down to defense and blocking IMO. Jaeschke, Caldwell and Smalzer have been extremely consistent all season. The middles' defense and back row defenders are going to be the deciding factor in this match.
|
|