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Post by volleyballfan99 on Oct 17, 2014 21:12:44 GMT -5
What Dave Shoji and Cindy Luis, who watches the Bows practice, states time after time is that Kendra Koelsch, in the skill that matters the most in a setter, to place hittable balls to the hitters, still have a lots of ways to go in terms of improvement. Until she proves in practices, scrimmages, and in actual games that she is better than Higgins in that skill, Koelsch will remain on the bench. All three of Hawaii's coaches have been setters, with Robin Ah Mow probably one of the great women setters of all time, as shown in international competition. The coaches are well aware of Higgins' strengths and her many shortcomings. That is why Higgins probably receives the most scoldings of all the Bows on the sideline (however, that is true of most setters everywhere). But you have to go with what you have. Koelsch is no miracle worker who will magically produce wins, but just a freshman who needs more practice, teaching, and hopefully, more game experience. With her height and offensive skills, she has considerable upside in her future. I think when Hawaii is able to perform well against weaker conference teams in the beginning sets, Koelsch will have her chance for more playing time. For Hawaii, the bench is not the solution for its problems this season. The answer is the same for most teams, improved play, skills, and team cohesion. Shoji has repeatedly mentioned that the strength of this team is the Middles, which is the weak point in Higgins ability to set the Middles. I have watched the LBSU match with the Wahine over and over again and noticed that when Magill got injured the set to her from Higgins was way to low, to the point Magill had to concoct her body in such a fashion to just hit the ball that she came down awkwardly, causing her to get injured. One of Koelsch strengths is the ability to set the Middles especially Magill. Why Shoji cannot see this is beyond me. I am worried that if Shoji continues to go with Higgins as the setter, that she might get some one else injured with her inability to put up good sets. As each match goes by, Higgins has become more and more inaccurate with her setting. Trap setting her hitters to close to the net, or giving them impossible angles to hit from.
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Post by LanaiBoy on Oct 18, 2014 6:04:37 GMT -5
What Dave Shoji and Cindy Luis, who watches the Bows practice, states time after time is that Kendra Koelsch, in the skill that matters the most in a setter, to place hittable balls to the hitters, still have a lots of ways to go in terms of improvement. Until she proves in practices, scrimmages, and in actual games that she is better than Higgins in that skill, Koelsch will remain on the bench. All three of Hawaii's coaches have been setters, with Robin Ah Mow probably one of the great women setters of all time, as shown in international competition. The coaches are well aware of Higgins' strengths and her many shortcomings. That is why Higgins probably receives the most scoldings of all the Bows on the sideline (however, that is true of most setters everywhere). But you have to go with what you have. Koelsch is no miracle worker who will magically produce wins, but just a freshman who needs more practice, teaching, and hopefully, more game experience. With her height and offensive skills, she has considerable upside in her future. I think when Hawaii is able to perform well against weaker conference teams in the beginning sets, Koelsch will have her chance for more playing time. For Hawaii, the bench is not the solution for its problems this season. The answer is the same for most teams, improved play, skills, and team cohesion. Shoji has repeatedly mentioned that the strength of this team is the Middles, which is the weak point in Higgins ability to set the Middles. I have watched the LBSU match with the Wahine over and over again and noticed that when Magill got injured the set to her from Higgins was way to low, to the point Magill had to concoct her body in such a fashion to just hit the ball that she came down awkwardly, causing her to get injured. One of Koelsch strengths is the ability to set the Middles especially Magill. Why Shoji cannot see this is beyond me. I am worried that if Shoji continues to go with Higgins as the setter, that she might get some one else injured with her inability to put up good sets. As each match goes by, Higgins has become more and more inaccurate with her setting. Trap setting her hitters to close to the net, or giving them impossible angles to hit from. Again I repeat, what proof do you have that Koelsch would do any better in setting the middles, and equally important the right, the outsides and behind the 3 meter line? From her MINISCULE playing experience versus the EXTENSIVE practice and scrimmage time viewed by the Bow coaches and Cindy Luis? It seems that you base your conclusion on pure faith. Higgins is not doing well in one skill, setting Olivia Magill in the middle I would agree. Does that means Koelsch will set Magill better and other positions equally well? To me that is magical thinking. Believing that saying something obsessively will make it true with no convincing evidence other than a personal belief or faith that it is true. In other words, where is your evidence that Koelsch will do better or make the team better other than your personal opinion? [/quote][/font]
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Post by soljah808 on Oct 18, 2014 16:04:38 GMT -5
You have to give TH a season before bashing her. I think she has potential and is starting right now because she is the best option. I know Dave values loyalties and unless there is an upgrade when switching from TH to KK, TH will continue to set. I would say many other coaches follow the same philosophy! Unless there is an upgrade, they will keep the more senior player on the floor. You kinda just proved my point why I feel KK deserves a shot to prove herself now instead of next year. You are correct....there isn't an upgrade between the two....which is more a reason to give KK more playing experience. People here have said, "she can compete for starting spot next year." Um, the excuse next year will be, "well, TH has more game experience understands the offense better, and was the starter last year." KK will not be able to fairly compete for that starting spot next year.....and everyone knows it. TH has struggled in a few matches.....not setting the middles high enough, trapping the outsides....its those struggles that should allow KK to prove to the coaches what she got. People say, "well, she doesn't look like starting material in practice." Well, maybe she doesn't do as well in practice but performs while in the spotlight! Anyone ever thought of that? How many times has Hawaii been down, and TH is replaced only for KK to help spark a comeback and turn the momentum? KK is a gamer and I still believe has more upside than TH.
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Post by soljah808 on Oct 18, 2014 16:08:50 GMT -5
Shoji has repeatedly mentioned that the strength of this team is the Middles, which is the weak point in Higgins ability to set the Middles. I have watched the LBSU match with the Wahine over and over again and noticed that when Magill got injured the set to her from Higgins was way to low, to the point Magill had to concoct her body in such a fashion to just hit the ball that she came down awkwardly, causing her to get injured. One of Koelsch strengths is the ability to set the Middles especially Magill. Why Shoji cannot see this is beyond me. I am worried that if Shoji continues to go with Higgins as the setter, that she might get some one else injured with her inability to put up good sets. As each match goes by, Higgins has become more and more inaccurate with her setting. Trap setting her hitters to close to the net, or giving them impossible angles to hit from. Again I repeat, what proof do you have that Koelsch would do any better in setting the middles, and equally important the right, the outsides and behind the 3 meter line? From her MINISCULE playing experience versus the EXTENSIVE practice and scrimmage time viewed by the Bow coaches and Cindy Luis? It seems that you base your conclusion on pure faith. Higgins is not doing well in one skill, setting Olivia Magill in the middle I would agree. Does that means Koelsch will set Magill better and other positions equally well? To me that is magical thinking. Believing that saying something obsessively will make it true with no convincing evidence other than a personal belief or faith that it is true. In other words, where is your evidence that Koelsch will do better or make the team better other than your personal opinion? [/font][/quote] God bless Shoji....but braddah needs to man up and allow KK to PROVE to him and everyone else why she deserves the playing time.
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Post by haw2991 on Oct 18, 2014 16:31:24 GMT -5
Shoji has repeatedly mentioned that the strength of this team is the Middles, which is the weak point in Higgins ability to set the Middles. I have watched the LBSU match with the Wahine over and over again and noticed that when Magill got injured the set to her from Higgins was way to low, to the point Magill had to concoct her body in such a fashion to just hit the ball that she came down awkwardly, causing her to get injured. One of Koelsch strengths is the ability to set the Middles especially Magill. Why Shoji cannot see this is beyond me. I am worried that if Shoji continues to go with Higgins as the setter, that she might get some one else injured with her inability to put up good sets. As each match goes by, Higgins has become more and more inaccurate with her setting. Trap setting her hitters to close to the net, or giving them impossible angles to hit from. Again I repeat, what proof do you have that Koelsch would do any better in setting the middles, and equally important the right, the outsides and behind the 3 meter line? From her MINISCULE playing experience versus the EXTENSIVE practice and scrimmage time viewed by the Bow coaches and Cindy Luis? It seems that you base your conclusion on pure faith. Higgins is not doing well in one skill, setting Olivia Magill in the middle I would agree. Does that means Koelsch will set Magill better and other positions equally well? To me that is magical thinking. Believing that saying something obsessively will make it true with no convincing evidence other than a personal belief or faith that it is true. In other words, where is your evidence that Koelsch will do better or make the team better other than your personal opinion? [/font][/quote] True, there isn't much evidence that Koelsch will be a vast improvement over TH however, there is evidence that TH's struggles as of late have been extremely blatant. Whether its not setting the middles high enough or trapping the outsides (especially the RS), its getting customary. Yes Kolesch may not perform very well in practice but with the limited time she does get on court, she always manages to spark a run and comeback. At this point of the season, I believe Koelsch really deserves a shot to prove herself, give her more playing experience so we can see if she can deliver consistently and we also can make an accurate comparison between KK and TH. Its not like we're going to be regarded as a threat come tourney time, what's the issue? Why not try something new? That's just my personal opinion on the matters. We all know Shoji will stick with the safer option and go with his more experienced player.
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Post by manoamist on Oct 18, 2014 18:29:59 GMT -5
Agree. If all options are truly on the table, give the newbies a shot. Noth'n to lose here. I may be wrong but we may not have the talent pool we had when we played Pepperdine and Kim Hill in 2011. Longing for the good old days... sigh... check it out.
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Post by haw2991 on Oct 18, 2014 19:01:25 GMT -5
Agree. If all options are truly on the table, give the newbies a shot. Noth'n to lose here. I may be wrong but we may not have the talent pool we had when we played Pepperdine and Kim Hill in 2011. Longing for the good old days... sigh... check it out. We really had a shot to get to the FF that year. That SC match was a bummer.
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Post by Cubicle No More ... on Oct 18, 2014 22:23:28 GMT -5
Wahine volleyball cancels scrimmage
By Cindy Luis, Honolulu Star-Advertiser
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Oct 18, 2014
Although weather conditions have forced the cancellation of Saturday's clinic and scrimmage planned by the Hawaii volleyball team, all involved are hoping that it comes with a silver lining.
"Of course, we're very disappointed, that's why we waited until the last minute to make this decision," said Lori Crivello-Rawlins, general manager of sponsoring Rawlins Chevron. "The community was very much looking forward to this and we were expecting a big turnout. It was so exciting to have the Wahine volleyball team here and we're bummed that it's not happening Saturday.
"The discussion now with UH is that they come during the spring semester. It gives us time to make it an even better event."
Saturday's schedule had the Rainbow Wahine arriving in Ho‘olehua, the hometown of senior middle Kalei Adolpho, around 1 p.m. There was to be a youth clinic at 3:30 p.m., followed by an autograph session and a intrasquad scrimmage at Molokai High, Adolpho's alma mater. It had been planned as a benefit for Molokai Cancer Fund.
In the works is a similar program with a clinic and scrimmage in the spring. Given that coach Dave Shoji would have been unable to participate in Saturday's event due to a previously scheduled recruiting trip to the mainland, Crivello-Rawlins said that the silver lining is the postponement would allow Shoji to make the rescheduled trip to Molokai.
"The weather has forced us to postpone it," said indoor associate head coach Scott Wong, the head sand volleyball coach who also had to postpone his team's fundraiser from Sunday until Nov. 2. "We'll try to go in spring some time."
One issue that was driving the cancellation was that the Molokai High gym is an emergency evacuation shelter.
Although some interisland fights remained on schedule as of Friday, there was relief by those who remember the ill-fated plane crash in 1989 from Kahului to Molokai. Oct. 28 marks the 25th anniversary of the Aloha Island Air Flight 1712 disaster that killed all 20 aboard, including Molokai High athletic director John Ino, girls volleyball players Leilani Ahina, Lea Dunnam, Natalie Helm, Kaipo Maihiai and Aloma Spencer and coach Odetta Rapanot.
The Farmers had just clinched the MIL championship. Also on board were three members of the boys volleyball team: Jared Elia, Testa Ku and Jovencio Ruiz.
"It's a small island — everyone was affected and still is affected," said Crivello-Rawlins, a 1987 Molokai High graduate. "We're hoping the Wahine will be able to come, that we'll be able to celebrate Kalei's senior year. We're looking forward to it happening in spring."
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Post by ACE on Oct 19, 2014 4:51:52 GMT -5
Who was Shoji meeting with/visiting on this recruiting trip?
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Post by LanaiBoy on Oct 19, 2014 5:27:47 GMT -5
Who was Shoji meeting with/visiting on this recruiting trip? I highly doubt he was going there to recruit somebody. Molokaʻi has not had a player that was D1 caliber since they won the state title in 2010 with Kalei Adolpho and Kalei Vaivai. The talent coming out of the MIL in general has not been that great for a few years now. The only person that I know of that went to a D1 college from the MIL recently was Bobbi Kalama from Kamehameha Maui in 2013. Actually, we don't know who Dave Shoji is planning to visit on his recruiting trip. He was not flying to Molokai for the scrimmage and workshop; thus he was NOT recruiting on Molokai. The trip to Molokai will probably be rescheduled for Spring 2015, so Shoji will be able to visit Molokai then. The intent of the trip is to honor Kalei Adolpho in her senior year.
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Post by LanaiBoy on Oct 19, 2014 6:01:04 GMT -5
Actually, we don't know who Dave Shoji is planning to visit on his recruiting trip. He was not flying to Molokai for the scrimmage and workshop; thus he was NOT recruiting on Molokai. The trip to Molokai will probably be rescheduled for Spring 2015, so Shoji will be able to visit Molokai then. The intent of the trip is to honor Kalei Adolpho in her senior year. I figured he was going to Molokaʻi mostly for Kalei Adolpho, but what I was saying was I don't see who he would possibly visit cause like I said before there has not been any high caliber talent there since Kalei Adolpho and Kalei Vaivai were there. Obviously, you did not read my post. I said that Dave Shoji was not going to Molokai at all so he couldn't see anyone there. He had a conflict with a scheduled recruiting trip to the Mainland that he did not want to reschedule. Scott Wong was to be in charge of the Molokai trip in place of Shoji.
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Post by ACE on Oct 19, 2014 21:26:55 GMT -5
Although we don't know who specifically he was recruiting, would this candidate be for 2015 or 2016? I know people on here do the whole who's on scholarship and who's graduating, so I'm not sure what's available next year.
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Post by ACE on Oct 21, 2014 4:12:30 GMT -5
Any word on Magill?
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Post by WahineFan44 on Oct 21, 2014 4:25:48 GMT -5
Cindy say she MOST likely will play. So that's good news
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Post by OptimusPrime on Oct 21, 2014 12:25:52 GMT -5
You have to give TH a season before bashing her. I think she has potential and is starting right now because she is the best option. I know Dave values loyalties and unless there is an upgrade when switching from TH to KK, TH will continue to set. I would say many other coaches follow the same philosophy! Unless there is an upgrade, they will keep the more senior player on the floor. You kinda just proved my point why I feel KK deserves a shot to prove herself now instead of next year. You are correct....there isn't an upgrade between the two....which is more a reason to give KK more playing experience. People here have said, "she can compete for starting spot next year." Um, the excuse next year will be, "well, TH has more game experience understands the offense better, and was the starter last year." KK will not be able to fairly compete for that starting spot next year.....and everyone knows it. TH has struggled in a few matches.....not setting the middles high enough, trapping the outsides....its those struggles that should allow KK to prove to the coaches what she got. People say, "well, she doesn't look like starting material in practice." Well, maybe she doesn't do as well in practice but performs while in the spotlight! Anyone ever thought of that? How many times has Hawaii been down, and TH is replaced only for KK to help spark a comeback and turn the momentum? KK is a gamer and I still believe has more upside than TH. If I recall correctly Uiato didn't set the middles well either and was less dynamic than TH. Unless KK shows an upside in practice, TH should remain as the starter! Thats just the way it rolls guys... Sucks for the 2nd setter but if all adds equal the one with seniority gets the play time and the other gets the bread crumbs off the table.
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