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Post by vboldskool on Jul 13, 2014 9:54:28 GMT -5
Question - and forgive me not knowing - but when and why did the international game shift to the ball with textured surface as opposed to the smooth surface ball used currently in the women's game? I believe collegiate men use it now, but at what point will it trickle to the collegiate women?
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Post by MyNameHere on Jul 13, 2014 12:06:14 GMT -5
The Mikasa blue-and-yellow (MVA200) was introduced around July 2007, just prior to the 2008 Olympic Games.
The texture on the surface has two functions: to provide more surface area to grip the ball, particularly when wet due to sweat; and to make the ball fly straighter and truer (i.e., less float).
Collegiate men use a textured ball, but a design by Molten, not the FIVB Mikasa. There is no current textured design for collegiate women. My guess is they probably won't use it any time soon. Some conferences have a conference-mandated ball, others allow home teams to select the ball. It's bad enough going from a Baden to a Nike to a Molten during conference season. It would be even worse to have to alternate from a traditional ball to a textured ball and back again. And I doubt NCAA would play their championship tournaments with the ball when so many schools would infrequently see it during their season.
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Post by vboldskool on Jul 13, 2014 12:55:42 GMT -5
The Mikasa blue-and-yellow (MVA200) was introduced around July 2007, just prior to the 2008 Olympic Games. The texture on the surface has two functions: to provide more surface area to grip the ball, particularly when wet due to sweat; and to make the ball fly straighter and truer (i.e., less float). Collegiate men use a textured ball, but a design by Molten, not the FIVB Mikasa. There is no current textured design for collegiate women. My guess is they probably won't use it any time soon. Some conferences have a conference-mandated ball, others allow home teams to select the ball. It's bad enough going from a Baden to a Nike to a Molten during conference season. It would be even worse to have to alternate from a traditional ball to a textured ball and back again. And I doubt NCAA would play their championship tournaments with the ball when so many schools would infrequently see it during their season. Awesome - thank you that is exactly what I wanted info wise. Although, what happens in the FIVB, generally, eventually gets to the collegiate level. Thank you.
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Post by Phaedrus on Jul 13, 2014 14:08:58 GMT -5
That Mikasa ball was Ruben Acosta's farewell gift to Mikasa, his long time sugar daddy.
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Post by itsallrelative on Jul 13, 2014 17:35:44 GMT -5
Rumours of USAV junior girls going to a similar ball in a year or two.....
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Post by Phaedrus on Jul 13, 2014 19:02:12 GMT -5
I heard they are going to a similar aesthetics but a slightly lighter version. We were going to use it at our tournament a few years ago but our younger kids had a hard time getting used to the way it played. 18's liked it.
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Post by MyNameHere on Jul 13, 2014 19:40:06 GMT -5
The problem with the Mikasa ball for domestic play is that USAV has had a long-time sponsorship deal with Molten for volleyballs. That's why the Adult and Boys Championship tournaments have been playing with the Molten Flistatecs for a while (except at some of the older adult age-group play).
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Post by rogero1 on Jul 13, 2014 19:47:15 GMT -5
The Mikasa blue-and-yellow (MVA200) was introduced around July 2007, just prior to the 2008 Olympic Games. The texture on the surface has two functions: to provide more surface area to grip the ball, particularly when wet due to sweat; and to make the ball fly straighter and truer (i.e., less float). Collegiate men use a textured ball, but a design by Molten, not the FIVB Mikasa. There is no current textured design for collegiate women. My guess is they probably won't use it any time soon. Some conferences have a conference-mandated ball, others allow home teams to select the ball. It's bad enough going from a Baden to a Nike to a Molten during conference season. It would be even worse to have to alternate from a traditional ball to a textured ball and back again. And I doubt NCAA would play their championship tournaments with the ball when so many schools would infrequently see it during their season. The NCAA women already does it. Look at how many schools use Molten vs. Baden, Nike, & Spaulding and you will see that Molten is in the minority. Nearly all of the NCAA DI/II men use Molten because they are not locked into uniform contracts like the women's programs and they want to play with the same ball that is used for the NCAA playoffs.
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Post by n00b on Jul 13, 2014 20:27:31 GMT -5
The Mikasa blue-and-yellow (MVA200) was introduced around July 2007, just prior to the 2008 Olympic Games. The texture on the surface has two functions: to provide more surface area to grip the ball, particularly when wet due to sweat; and to make the ball fly straighter and truer (i.e., less float). Collegiate men use a textured ball, but a design by Molten, not the FIVB Mikasa. There is no current textured design for collegiate women. My guess is they probably won't use it any time soon. Some conferences have a conference-mandated ball, others allow home teams to select the ball. It's bad enough going from a Baden to a Nike to a Molten during conference season. It would be even worse to have to alternate from a traditional ball to a textured ball and back again. And I doubt NCAA would play their championship tournaments with the ball when so many schools would infrequently see it during their season. The NCAA women already does it. Look at how many schools use Molten vs. Baden, Nike, & Spaulding and you will see that Molten is in the minority. Nearly all of the NCAA DI/II men use Molten because they are not locked into uniform contracts like the women's programs and they want to play with the same ball that is used for the NCAA playoffs. The vast majority of women's teams i've seen use Molten...
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Post by ja on Jul 13, 2014 20:32:53 GMT -5
Rumours of USAV junior girls going to a similar ball in a year or two..... USAV HP programs all using Molten V5M5000. It is big difference in serve, not so much in attacking. Mostly girls like it.
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Post by rogero1 on Jul 13, 2014 22:33:19 GMT -5
The NCAA women already does it. Look at how many schools use Molten vs. Baden, Nike, & Spaulding and you will see that Molten is in the minority. Nearly all of the NCAA DI/II men use Molten because they are not locked into uniform contracts like the women's programs and they want to play with the same ball that is used for the NCAA playoffs. The vast majority of women's teams i've seen use Molten... Most of the teams I see around here use Baden, Nike, & Spaulding.
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