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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 20:21:04 GMT -5
Eckerman wasn't in every service rotation but she did pass, Hartong only moved to the OH permanently the last two years, and was a passer the majority of that time. I'll give you Webster and Gray. But still, that's like two AA OH's who only played 3 rotations, compared to 12+ that at the very least played all 6 rotations, if not primary passers. I'm not saying that there aren't teams who don't hide the backrow play of their OH's, what I'm saying is that the players who have the skills to be 6 rotation players at the next level are already playing 6 rotations in college. the NCAA limiting substitutions doesn't mean that a player like Webster or Gray are going to be good enough to get a starting OH spot on the national team. Eckerman proves the opposite of your point there. She's probably the best prospective terminating outside at the National Team level and she just started passing part-time as a junior in college. Best prospective terminating outside at the national team level? Says who? And, in THIS system? I don't think so.
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Post by ay2013 on Aug 10, 2014 20:23:13 GMT -5
Eckerman wasn't in every service rotation but she did pass, Hartong only moved to the OH permanently the last two years, and was a passer the majority of that time. I'll give you Webster and Gray. But still, that's like two AA OH's who only played 3 rotations, compared to 12+ that at the very least played all 6 rotations, if not primary passers. I'm not saying that there aren't teams who don't hide the backrow play of their OH's, what I'm saying is that the players who have the skills to be 6 rotation players at the next level are already playing 6 rotations in college. the NCAA limiting substitutions doesn't mean that a player like Webster or Gray are going to be good enough to get a starting OH spot on the national team. Eckerman proves the opposite of your point there. She's probably the best prospective terminating outside at the National Team level and she just started passing part-time as a junior in college. And she's not very good at it. Teams have shown that when she's targeted with good serving, she doesn't hold up well. So then that begs the question, should the NCAA essentially force her to pass in the hope that eventually she'll actually become good enough to pass internationally? hmmm...then there is the issue of what happens when high level NCAA passers become shank machines internationally. Hodge and Richards come to mind. Both played all the way around in college, and were very successful in the backcourt, yet their backcourt is their achilles heel internationally. Also, generally speaking, while it's ok to want the best team and the best players in the world, we don't always have the best team and the best players in the world...nobody would be saying anything about changing the NCAA rules to force more all around players if we swept every international match would they? Something "must" be wrong in college years and development because we get beat internationally...It's like we can't accept that sometimes people are just better.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 10, 2014 20:26:37 GMT -5
I don't think Fien makes the L2 by the time Big10 play rolls in. It will be Amber You wanna bet?
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Post by bball on Aug 10, 2014 20:35:06 GMT -5
I don't think Fien makes the L2 by the time Big10 play rolls in. It will be Amber You wanna bet? hehehhehe..... no!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 20:38:16 GMT -5
I don't think Fien makes the L2 by the time Big10 play rolls in. It will be Amber You wanna bet? Change "by the time B1G play rolls in" to "by the time the tournament starts" and I'll take the bet. Not that it will be Amber but that it won't be Fien.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 10, 2014 20:47:21 GMT -5
Change "by the time B1G play rolls in" to "by the time the tournament starts" and I'll take the bet. Not that it will be Amber but that it won't be Fien. that of course is an entirely different bet, that I didn't purpose.
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Post by vup on Aug 10, 2014 20:50:50 GMT -5
My lineup and prediction...
Hunter/A. Rolfzen K. Rolfzen/Albrecht Kiel/Me. Haggerty Wong-Orantes DS Etheridge, Townsend
Ma. Haggerty closely behind and interchanging with Albrecht.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2014 20:54:27 GMT -5
Change "by the time B1G play rolls in" to "by the time the tournament starts" and I'll take the bet. Not that it will be Amber but that it won't be Fien. that of course is an entirely different bet, that I didn't purpose. But will you take it??
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Post by chisovnik on Aug 10, 2014 21:04:42 GMT -5
My lineup and prediction... Hunter/A. Rolfzen K. Rolfzen/Albrecht Kiel/Me. Haggerty Wong-Orantes DS Etheridge, Townsend Ma. Haggerty closely behind and interchanging with Albrecht. +1
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Post by holidayhusker on Aug 10, 2014 21:44:25 GMT -5
I don't think Fien makes the L2 by the time Big10 play rolls in. It will be Amber You wanna bet? I am not liking this post at all because usually you are right.
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Post by bball on Aug 10, 2014 21:50:01 GMT -5
I'm not sure if I have a good enough understanding on Albrecht's play. Isn't she a walk-on? Does anyone have any video's or information for me? It seem's she got a lot of high praise which sound exciting. I've seen the new Haggerty play and she's great, plays a terrific RS.
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Post by bball on Aug 10, 2014 21:54:35 GMT -5
Polmiller/A. Rolfzen K. Rolfzen/Fien Kiel/Me. Haggerty Wong-Orantes DS Etheridge
....this is my prediction for Cook. but next I will list MY (unedcuated in VB IQ wish list) lineup
Hunter/Ostrander K. Rolfzen/A. Rolfzen Kiel/Larson Wong-Orantes DS Etheridge
hum............... now that I look at this, i don't like it. Jeez, of all the OH hitters Cook recruits, and now we can't find one we all agree on? That's a first I think.
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Post by dorothymantooth on Aug 10, 2014 22:01:47 GMT -5
that of course is an entirely different bet, that I didn't purpose. But will you take it?? No, not that it couldn't happen, just that the odds arent very good. I don't see any of the three candidates locking it down completely. I think you will see Fien left, with Albrecht playing her back row, and when Fien struggles, Albrecht all the way around. Don't see the freshman as better bets to perform well than Fien, and don't see any of them as players that aren't going to be relieved from time to time. We shall see. Amber is too good on the right and there isn't anyone who could play RS anywhere near the level she can.
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Post by vup on Aug 11, 2014 1:12:54 GMT -5
I'm not sure if I have a good enough understanding on Albrecht's play. Isn't she a walk-on? Does anyone have any video's or information for me? It seem's she got a lot of high praise which sound exciting. I've seen the new Haggerty play and she's great, plays a terrific RS. If you do a Youtube search for either "Annika Albrecht" or "Sports Performance Volleyball 18 Elite", there are a bunch of videos of both Albrecht and Maddie Haggerty playing for their club team (Albrecht is #79 and Ma. Haggerty is #69). I've noticed the hype around Albrecht before too, and I'm gonna buy it for now. I'm not sure if she's a walk-on or not, but she makes great contact with the ball, and I just generally think she could be a good piece to our puzzle... She should have lots of room for maturing! ... Should be interesting where Maddie will land in all of this. I think the lineup you put forth could be very interesting!! I like the idea of both Rolfzen/Rolfzen on the left and Ostrander on the right because we typically use the 'big girl' on the RS...and also, how can it get any better than twin Left sides??? Let alone the Rolfzen twins!!! It definitely seems like Amber will indeed be our RS again this year, which is A-OK, because like dorothy mentioned, she is the best we have at that position right now (especially considering her blocking ability at RS. I like her a lot at both positions). Yeah I also chose Meghan Haggerty as more of a prediction of what I think Cook will do, but if she can terminate the way she did her freshman year......... I don't know, but I think all of our middles are solid, and it's hard to put one above the other right now. I think Larson could be as good as advertised though. She certainly impressed me during that China match. She can terminate, and I think she even led our team in blocks that match, including a couple nice solo-stuffs. Lots of potential in our middles this year, and I wouldn't count out Cici Hall either, who has just got an athlete's body, like whoa! hahahaha The crux this year for Nebraska is, who will be our setter? Whoever it ends up being... she will probably define how our team does this year, especially since we have so much depth at MB. Right now, my preference is for Hunter. Her sets are like butter, she's smart out of system, and I don't think I've seen our middles look so good since 2007!!! I like Pollmiller--she has her own strengths-- but based on that China match alone, Hunter should win this job.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2014 1:35:55 GMT -5
No, not that it couldn't happen, just that the odds arent very good. I don't see any of the three candidates locking it down completely. I think you will see Fien left, with Albrecht playing her back row, and when Fien struggles, Albrecht all the way around. Don't see the freshman as better bets to perform well than Fien, and don't see any of them as players that aren't going to be relieved from time to time. We shall see. Amber is too good on the right and there isn't anyone who could play RS anywhere near the level she can. It's been a very long time (almost a decade) since Cook hasn't had two six-rotation lefts. I hope Albrecht makes the most of her opportunities. She's a favorite of mine.
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