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Post by craftylefty on Sept 2, 2014 8:01:03 GMT -5
If Sarah Wilhite can keep contributing regularly at her OH spot (and assuming that Daly can do the same), I am totally fine with keeping Alyssa Goehner as a DS. The prospect of her occasionally hitting out of the back row is a nice one, and she is a gem on serve receive. I just wish she had better reading or placement when it comes to getting to and digging up attacks. That will come with time, I suppose.
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Post by alpacaone on Sept 2, 2014 9:32:08 GMT -5
Sad seeing such a strong program that may be falling apart! Of course, all complaining will stop if the team can hold their own this year,and I hope for the players they do! The Band of Sisters remains strong even though it is apart; sometimes the health of the individual's implies a parting must be made. There is no dishonorable discharge required when leaving a volleyball program. It's been mentioned by people claiming to know this program that the staff may have requested their departure, but it's hard for me to imagine a staff that might request the departure of nearly 250 sets played from the #10 2013 program. If so, that is a real slap in the face, and not much of a thank you! If the exodus continues I don't know how a change couldn't be made.
For now it looks like the team's moving up from 18 is out of their control, as of right now they won't be able to help themselves move up the rankings before playing Ill next month.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 12:41:43 GMT -5
Find us ONE post where any credible poster said the staff "requested their departure." "Falling apart" is also not accurate.
Minnesota did not lose a single player who would be playing, fwiw.
Not that rankings should be a concern, but that's not how the AVCA works. They can move up simply by not losing while higher ranked teams lose.
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Post by lovebugsm on Sept 2, 2014 13:51:01 GMT -5
Ok a few random thoughts on this years team. I still believe this team can be really good. Wilhite blew me away on Saturday. She had some nice digs to go along with her massive night at the net. Also she is a back up setter now. My feeling after that game is she won't and can't leave the floor this season. Would like to see them set Goehner more in the back row. Daly didn't play well on Sat. She can not have off games like that if Minnesota is going to be successful. Beal seamed to put up a nice block. Schau is good defensively. I would have like to have seen them try Handley when things were not going great on sat. I'm not discouraged. Wilhite a performance made me really excited to see what this team is capable of!
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Post by alpacaone on Sept 2, 2014 15:35:01 GMT -5
Find us ONE post where any credible poster said the staff "requested their departure." "Falling apart" is also not accurate. Minnesota did not lose a single player who would be playing, fwiw. Not that rankings should be a concern, but that's not how the AVCA works. They can move up simply by not losing while higher ranked teams lose. You need to learn how to read, it seems a problem of yours. I said they can't help themselves, implying they require other people losing. Truth is they were soundly defeated at home by a team still ranked six positions behind them. If I were Lousiville, I would feel quite ripped off. Read the other thead, you will find it has been suggested in no fewer words.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 16:19:16 GMT -5
Talk about reading comprehension. "Credible poster." The staff did not force any of those players to leave. If you want to fault them, it would be that some of them were there in the first place.
Find me a post by a non-credible poster, for that matter.
They CAN help themselves, which is also in the post you apparently cannot read. They help themselves by not losing to anyone else while teams above them do (and some of those teams will lose). Really a simple concept.
By the way, have I ever had a conversation with you before? Oh, I see. You're the guy who thinks "this may not be accurate" should prevent someone from pointing out that what you said is indeed not accurate. Of course, we could just pretend you WERE accurate, I suppose.
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Post by mnsports255 on Sept 2, 2014 18:30:03 GMT -5
If Sarah Wilhite can keep contributing regularly at her OH spot (and assuming that Daly can do the same), I am totally fine with keeping Alyssa Goehner as a DS. The prospect of her occasionally hitting out of the back row is a nice one, and she is a gem on serve receive. I just wish she had better reading or placement when it comes to getting to and digging up attacks. That will come with time, I suppose. I agree with all your takes. If Wilhite's performance is more than a one time thing (I certainly think she can keep this up), she could be Minnesota's do-it-all player similar to Ashley Wittman last year. That's alot to ask of her, but based on her play this weekend, it seems possible.
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Post by alpacaone on Sept 2, 2014 20:40:22 GMT -5
Talk about reading comprehension. "Credible poster." The staff did not force any of those players to leave. If you want to fault them, it would be that some of them were there in the first place. Find me a post by a non-credible poster, for that matter. They CAN help themselves, which is also in the post you apparently cannot read. They help themselves by not losing to anyone else while teams above them do (and some of those teams will lose). Really a simple concept. By the way, have I ever had a conversation with you before? Oh, I see. You're the guy who thinks "this may not be accurate" should prevent someone from pointing out that what you said is indeed not accurate. Of course, we could just pretend you WERE accurate, I suppose. You'll have to find the last person was pelc11 post yourself. You actually said "you are wrong" had you said "not accurate" when I wrote Florida??? (Was there another error too?) it would have been welcomed. Truth is after last weekend this team would be expected to finish mid pack in the acc, coupled with eight transfers and another assistant coach, all Hugh's or Laura's (Hugh's) I think most would consider that a "falling apart" comparing it to the program's history. Sorry you don't.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 21:54:10 GMT -5
pelcj11?? What does he know about Minnesota volleyball? What does he know about volleyball, actually.
I looked up the records and you got all huffy. That's all I know. Water under the bridge except for your comment about my reading comprehension.
Nice to know you're doubling down on "falling apart." Whatever, my friend. Whatever.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 21:56:10 GMT -5
If Sarah Wilhite can keep contributing regularly at her OH spot (and assuming that Daly can do the same), I am totally fine with keeping Alyssa Goehner as a DS. The prospect of her occasionally hitting out of the back row is a nice one, and she is a gem on serve receive. I just wish she had better reading or placement when it comes to getting to and digging up attacks. That will come with time, I suppose. I agree with all your takes. If Wilhite's performance is more than a one time thing (I certainly think she can keep this up), she could be Minnesota's do-it-all player similar to Ashley Wittman last year. That's alot to ask of her, but based on her play this weekend, it seems possible. The danger, imo, is Minnesota thinking they can win with their outside hitters. I do not think they can win without improved ball control and a diverse offense, assuming their setting is adequate. We shall see.
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Post by spikerthemovie on Sept 2, 2014 22:36:52 GMT -5
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Post by bucky415 on Sept 3, 2014 0:57:49 GMT -5
I didn't see the Louisville match, where she obviously played great, but from what I saw of Wilhite against Notre Dame, I wouldn't rely on her to be a go to hitter like Wittman was last year. That is a lot to ask of a player who hasn't played all that much. Instead, I think, as someone said earlier, the Gophers' best hope for having a strong offensive team is for improved ball control and a balanced offense. Santana carried them through some rough spots on Friday, but she didn't have as efficient of a match on Saturday from the stats. Thus, I think getting the middles more involved will help take some pressure off if they are able to get better first and second contacts. That could also help open up things for Nora, who is a player who is capable of getting very hot offensively, as Gopher fans know.
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Post by craftylefty on Sept 3, 2014 9:06:31 GMT -5
I didn't see the Louisville match, where she obviously played great, but from what I saw of Wilhite against Notre Dame, I wouldn't rely on her to be a go to hitter like Wittman was last year. That is a lot to ask of a player who hasn't played all that much. Instead, I think, as someone said earlier, the Gophers' best hope for having a strong offensive team is for improved ball control and a balanced offense. Santana carried them through some rough spots on Friday, but she didn't have as efficient of a match on Saturday from the stats. Thus, I think getting the middles more involved will help take some pressure off if they are able to get better first and second contacts. That could also help open up things for Nora, who is a player who is capable of getting very hot offensively, as Gopher fans know. Fair enough points. Time will tell, of course, but I think that based on what was seen against Louisville, Sarah Wilhite is well on her way to becoming a secure six-rotation player for us. I certainly do not expect her to put up 20+ kills every match and perform to Ashley Wittman's level, but I think that she has shown enough glimmers of brilliance during Louisville to become at least a reliable offensive bet. I sat in row 1 during the Louisville match and what impressed me most about Sarah in particular was not only her aggressiveness and fire (especially compared to her uninspiring play in past matches), but also the way she seemed to put the team on her back. It was quite clear that she would not let that team lose. Unfortunately, they did, but I wouldn't say that was her fault. We could use a bit more floor leadership from players, so seeing stuff like this is definitely nice. I absolutely 100% agree with you that we need to get our middles more involved offensively. Katie Schau does a good enough job for us as a setter, but she is still having to run a lot to get to the passes and make something of them - brings back memories of Palmer. She is good as a whole, but she often appears worn down. I would like to see Handley get a shot at being our starting setter for at least one match just to see if it makes any difference. She seems to keep more of an even-keel, compared to Schau, which could be a good or bad thing but may actually help us out in this instance. And, yes, let's keep feeding Nora the ball in tight situations. She has shown time and time again, particularly in loud and/or tight point situations, that she can terminate.
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Post by alpacaone on Sept 3, 2014 10:23:27 GMT -5
Water under the bridge; sometimes it's a web thing. I won't double down until Iowa State. If they struggle again, then it's time to worry. Could be Conference may be more like Central division slug fest with as many as five teams sharing most the wins, and a lesser team that peaks late might be able to grab a higher position with a couple big wins. The coaches poll seems to believe in them.
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Post by craftylefty on Sept 11, 2014 21:08:00 GMT -5
Gophers are set to play Tulsa, Milwaukee, and Iowa State this coming weekend. Any predictions or insight on what these teams can bring and how we might stack up? I will be attending the Milwaukee (Saturday morning) match and will be giving my usual report after. Just following along with Gametracker for the rest of them. Busy weekend for me. Curious if we will continue to see Handley as setter. I would imagine so, at least for short-term. I did not watch her last weekend, but she seemed to connect well with the middles and right sides and make good choices overall, at least from what I gather from the stat sheets. My hope is that serve receive and passing will start really coming together soon. We have some good offensive weapons, and our setting with Handley seems to be involving more of those weapons. I'd like to see a little more experimenting with lineups as warranted by the play of our starters. We are starting to see a little more out of Hannah, which is nice. It was an excellent move to bring in Erica last weekend, I'd say. I personally have a gut feeling that we are not done with seeing Morgan Bohl play this season. Rosado seems hesitant at times, and while Bohl is not exactly a lightning-fast player, she seems more confident in her abilities - I suppose that comes with being a senior. I feel that both are excellent passers, but they are quite different players. Depending on the scenario and how certain games play out, it might be worth giving her another shot. Just my two cents.
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