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Post by koradz on Sept 2, 2014 6:30:59 GMT -5
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Post by kc8413 on Sept 2, 2014 9:17:08 GMT -5
I watched the game. It was a very close 5-setter. Good that the USA "came back" from losing the first 2 sets. Can anyone explain to me the format of the Championship. How many teams in each pool get to advance? I know the USA is in Pool D with Iran, Belgium, France, Italy and PR. Thanks!
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Post by bAnthony on Sept 2, 2014 11:09:04 GMT -5
I watched the game. It was a very close 5-setter. Good that the USA "came back" from losing the first 2 sets. Can anyone explain to me the format of the Championship. How many teams in each pool get to advance? I know the USA is in Pool D with Iran, Belgium, France, Italy and PR. Thanks! Here is a format rundown Click Here
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 11:36:43 GMT -5
Interesting end to the match. Only watched the 1st set and the end of the 5th set. Crazy ending. Shades of the BYU-UCLA match at Pauley Pavilion from 2013, where Al Scates went ballistic after the ref ignored the linesman's out call on an ace serve at match point for BYU. The ball was clearly in. You could see it on replay, but of course they don't use replay in college. Still, the ref made the right call, but let Al Scates badger him into reversing it and restarting the match, which UCLA went on to win. BYU protested to the NCAA and they replayed the final points the next day before their 2nd match. This time BYU won.
Not quite the same scenario, but the head referee taking a look at the video after calling the match (and then calling it a 2nd time) brought that to mind. In this case, it was not obviously a bad call. I couldn't tell if the ball was touched or not, even in replay. Frankly I don't think this system is that good when it comes to net play. And if they can't use it to overturn a terrible call like the one in the Puerto Rico - Belgium match, where the ball hit the floor before the Puerto Rican player got to it, and it was obvious on replay--but replay protests are not allowed for those situations--I don't know what the point is. Those shots are much easier to see than the ones on the net, which still seem like a judgement call most of the time anyway. They gave a point to Iran in the 1st set on one of those that I don't think was definitive enough to call a touch, but hey, I'm just a spectator. Nonetheless, in general I think the bad calls for or against a team even each other out.
I know it's crazy, but I wish they would promote players calling their own touches as a part of good sportsmanship. These days they teach that it's just part of the game to let the ref call it and not say anything. I accept that that's the way it is, but I don't have to like it. I know it probably wouldn't work because you will always have those that are not willing to do so, and so the honest ones would be penalized for their honesty, but I would love to see a team that plays that way. I suppose the ref would probably just blow them off though, which is what happened to my sister during a high school volleyball match many many moons ago. And these days who knows how the coach would handle that. I have seen a few players in men's college volleyball still do this, and I'm always pleasantly surprised and truly appreciate them for it.
I'm wondering if Speraw will start Matt at opposite for the next match or stay with Clark. I wonder what sort of ailments David Lee has. I know he wasn't cleared for any of the Iran matches, so he must be nursing something. He was such a big part of our success in World League, and he is not the same player right now. Looks like Iran was very good at keeping their serves away from Eric Shoji and pointed straight at Taylor and Matt, who both struggled--Taylor more so. Still, from the little I watched, we would have won this match if we had played the tight points better. Serving was too unreliable again. Passing has to get better so we can use our middles. They put Clark in, but hardly set to him. He does so-so when they do. The passing isn't good enough from Taylor, OH2, and Matt right now. Matt and Taylor are basically the offense. Too much reliance on the outside hitters.
But with all these issues, they still just about pulled it out. I'm encouraged by this match. I think we match up well against Iran, better than some other teams. I'm hoping this match lights a fire in our team, which we're going to need in order to get to the next round.
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Post by moniisia on Sept 2, 2014 13:39:11 GMT -5
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Post by MyNameHere on Sept 2, 2014 22:39:20 GMT -5
I know it's crazy, but I wish they would promote players calling their own touches as a part of good sportsmanship. These days they teach that it's just part of the game to let the ref call it and not say anything. I accept that that's the way it is, but I don't have to like it. I know it probably wouldn't work because you will always have those that are not willing to do so, and so the honest ones would be penalized for their honesty, but I would love to see a team that plays that way. I suppose the ref would probably just blow them off though, which is what happened to my sister during a high school volleyball match many many moons ago. And these days who knows how the coach would handle that. I have seen a few players in men's college volleyball still do this, and I'm always pleasantly surprised and truly appreciate them for it. I saw a few matches on beIN earlier this year from the Italian pro league. I saw two unusual things: there were no line judges, but it looked as if the refs could initiate a replay review if there was any question about where the ball landed; and (presumably due to the lack of line judges) there were multiple honor calls for balls touched off the block. Never thought I'd see the day. Officials at some levels are being instructed, in the spirit of fair play, to accept honor calls from players unless they are obviously incorrect. This probably isn't going to happen at your run-of-the-mill high school match, given that many of those officials would see the honor call as a challenge to their ultimate authority. Experienced officials in the domestic college venues would probably take the honor call, even if it meant a temporary bruise to the ego.
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