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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 16:42:47 GMT -5
Pool D Final Standings Rank
| Country
| Points
| Matches
Won/Lost
| Sets
Won
| Sets
Lost
| Sets Won/
Lost Ratio
| Points
Won
| Points
Lost
| Pts Won/
Lost Ratio
| 1*
| France | 12 | 4-1
| 14
| 7
| 2.000
| 469
| 437
| 1.073
| 2*
| Iran | 11
| 4-1
| 13
| 7
| 1.857
| 462
| 420
| 1.100
| 3*
| USA | 9
| 3-2
| 12
| 9
| 1.333
| 461
| 419
| 1.100
| 4*
| Italy
| 5
| 2-3
| 9
| 12
| 0.750
| 462
| 473
| 0.976
| 5
| Belgium | 5
| 1-4
| 9
| 12
| 0.750
| 437
| 467
| 0.935
| 6
| Puerto Rico
| 3
| 1-4
| 3
| 13
| 0.230
| 315
| 390
| 0.807
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Qualified for 2nd Round Pool E. Italy and Belgium tied with 5 points apiece, but Italy advances due to having more match wins (2) than Belgium (1).
Completed Matches
France d. Belgium (3-2) 25-14 21-25 25-20 22-25 15-12
Iran d. Puerto Rico (3-0) 25-17 25-22 25-14
U.S. d. Italy (3-1) 25-18 25-20 23-25 25-17
Points and Results taken to 2nd Round for teams from Pool DFrance takes 7 points, 2-1 match record, 8-5 sets ratio, and 285-272 points ratio to Round 2 and starts in 2nd place.
Iran takes 5 points, 2-1 match record, 7-6 sets ratio, and 291-284 points ratio to Round 2 and starts in 4th place.
The U.S. takes 4 points, 1-2 match record, 6-7 sets ratio, and 283-278 points ratio to Round 2 and starts in 5th place.
Italy takes 2 points, 1-2 match record, 5-8 sets ratio, and 269-294 points ratio to Round 2 and starts in 7th place.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2014 21:44:30 GMT -5
Scenarios for Italy, the U.S., and Belgium to Reach the 2nd Phase
Ranking Criteria
1. Points
2. Matches won
3. Sets won/lost ratio
4. Points won/lost ratio
5. Most recent head-to-head result
If Belgium loses to France either 0-3 or 1-3 in the first Pool D match tomorrow, they earn 0 points and stay at 4 points; Italy and the U.S. (with 6 and 5 points) are guaranteed to advance no matter what happens in their match.
Belgium lost to France 2-3 and earned 1 point to finish with 5 points. The U.S. (6 points) advanced and so did Italy (5 points) because they have more match wins (2) than Belgium (1).
If Belgium wins 3-2, it gets complicated. They earn 2 points to reach 6 points, have 2 match wins, and a 0.909 sets ratio. If Italy then loses 0-3 or 1-3 to the U.S., gaining 0 points, they will not advance with 5 points. If Italy loses 2-3 to the U.S., they earn 1 point and total 6 points with 2 match wins as well. Belgium advances over them because their sets ratio is higher (0.909 to 0.833). If the U.S. loses 0-3 to Italy, earns 0 points, stays at 6 points with 2 match wins and a sets ratio of 0.818, they will not advance because their sets ratio is lower than Belgium's. They may or may not advance if they lose 1-3 to Italy. Their total points and matches won would still be 6 and 2, the same as Belgium's, but their sets ratio will now be the same as well (0.909), so it would come down to points won/lost ratio. So, if Belgium wins 3-2, Italy has to beat the U.S. to advance, while the U.S. will advance if they defeat Italy or lose 2-3, and they may advance if they lose 1-3.
If Belgium wins 3-1, they gain 3 points to finish with 7 points and 2 matches won. If Italy loses 0-3 or 1-3 to the U.S., they are done at 5 points. If the U.S. loses 0-3 or 1-3 to Italy, they are done with 6 points. If Italy loses 2-3 to the U.S., they are done at 6 points. If they defeat the U.S. 3-2, all three teams will have 7 points. Italy advances because they have more match wins (3) than the U.S. and Belgium (2). Belgium and the U.S. both have the same sets ratio (1.000), so it would come down to which one has the higher points ratio. So, if Belgium wins 3-1, Italy will only advance if they beat the U.S. The U.S. will advance if they defeat Italy, and they may advance if they lose 2-3 to Italy, depending on their points ratio.
If Belgium wins 3-0, Italy has to defeat the U.S. in order to advance, and the U.S. has to defeat Italy in order to advance.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2014 0:39:39 GMT -5
9/7/14 Notes
Now that the U.S. and Italy have advanced to Round 2, this match is more about results and points. Since each team keeps the results and points from the matches against teams in their pool that also qualified for Round 2, this match is very important if Italy and the U.S. want to increase their chances to reach the 3rd round. Right now they are at the the bottom of Pool E (best 4 teams from Pools A & D)
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2014 7:53:41 GMT -5
9/6/14 Notes
Hm... Italy now has the distinction of being the only team to lose a set to Puerto Rico. Too many mistakes from Italy. Great to see Puerto Rico battle back and take a set from a team after such a rough tournament.
So far in the 3rd set, Puerto Rico is hanging tough. 9-9. Puerto Rico looks good right now. 11-10. 16-13 Puerto Rico at 1st TT. Wow! Can Puerto Rico keep it up? Italy back to within 1 at 16-15. This is actually a pretty good match. Puerto Rico still ahead 20-18. PR maintaining a 2-point lead 21-19. Yikes, Puerto Rico up 22-19 and Italy takes a timeout. Puerto Rico defense almost gets another ball up. 22-20. Italy off the block. Closes to 22-21 and PR takes a timeout now. Whowzers! Puerto Rico did it again and takes set 3 25-23.
What a match! Tied 17-17 in the 4th set. Neither team giving an inch so far in this set. 18-18. Puerto Rico playing lights out defense. Great block, then a dig, and they get the kill to make it 19-18. Italy takes a timeout. Great dig again from Puerto Rico and it's 21-18. 21-19. Italy serves out. 22-19. PR serves out 22-20. Italy serves out. 23-20. Maurice Torres has 26 points. Italy takes a timeout. PR 2 points away from taking this, 3-1. Italy with the kill. 23-21. PR off the block. 24-21. Match point. Italy lives another point. PR got an overpass on their serve, but the kill attempt is blocked. Popped up, set to hitter, and Italy blocks again. Its down on PR's side. 24-22. 2nd match point. Missed what happened, but Puerto Rico wins it 25-22. Crazy!!!! The crowd is so excited for Puerto Rico. This is fantastic for them, but heartbreaking for Italy.
9/4/14 Notes
Taking a look at the current standings and the coming match-ups, I think it's almost a given that Italy and Iran will both pick up 3 points from their match with Puerto Rico. Both would finish with at least 8 points even if they lost 0-3 or 1-3 to the U.S. and Belgium, which is not likely to happen. Iran should be fired up after their loss to France, and Belgium suffered a tough loss to Italy after almost pushing it to a 5th set. If they had won the match with Italy, they had a very good shot at finishing in the top 4. Now, it will be very, very difficult, but if the U.S. loses tomorrow in 3 or 4 sets, it gets much easier. I've gone over all the scenarios in which the U.S. loses both matches and what it would take for them to still advance in the previous post.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2014 12:04:45 GMT -5
U.S. starting Rotation vs. Puerto Rico. Taylor Sander
Left Front
(4)
| Micah Christenson
Middle Front
(3)
| Max Holt
Right Front
(2)
| David Lee (Eric Shoji)
Left Back
(5)
| Matt Anderson
Middle Back
(6)
| Paul Lotman
Right Back
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U.S. starting rotation vs. France. Set 1. U.S. receives serve. Eric Shoji (L)
comes in for David Lee in left back on serve receive.
Taylor Sander (OH)
Left Front
(4)
| Micah Christenson (S)
Middle Front
(3)
| Max Holt (MB)
Right Front
(2)
| David Lee (Eric Shoji) (MB/L)
Left Back
(5)
| Matt Anderson (OPP)
Middle Back
(6)
| Paul Lotman (OH)
Right Back
(1)
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David Lee (MB)
Left Front
(4)
| Taylor Sander (OH)
Middle Front
(3)
| Micah Christenson (S)
Right Front
(2)
| Matt Anderson (OPP)
Left Back
(5)
| Paul Lotman (OH)
Middle Back
(6)
| Max Holt (MB)
Right Back
(1)
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U.S. starting rotation vs. France. Set 3. U.S. receives serve. Eric Shoji (L)
comes in for Max Holt in left back for serve receive. Kawika Shoji (S) subs
in for Micah Christenson with France leading 11-7 and plays the rest of set 3. Paul Lotman (OH)
Left Front
(4)
| Matt Anderson (OPP)
Middle Front
(3)
| David Lee (MB)
Right Front
(2)
| Max Holt (Eric Shoji) (MB/L)
Left Back
(5)
| Micah Christenson (S)
Middle Back
(6)
| Taylor Sander (OH)
Right Back
(1)
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Max Holt in left back. Micah Christenson (S) subbed in for Kawika Shoji (S) with
France leading 14-13 and plays the rest of set 4.
Taylor Sander (OH)
Left Front
(4)
| Carson Clark (OPP)
Middle Front
(3)
| David Smith (MB)
Right Front
(2)
| Max Holt (Eric Shoji) (MB/L)
Left Back
(5)
| Kawika Shoji (S)
Middle Back
(6)
| Matt Anderson (OH)
Right Back
(1)
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Post by dusty64 on Sept 6, 2014 7:41:39 GMT -5
After 1st set Speraw has no answer to French system, Micah (and then Kawika), both wasnt able to set middleblockers. The same that Belgium did. Now 2-1 to France, well deserved, they have been better until now. Clear and swift. Let's see what Speraw does, as far as it goes, no good prospects, but let's have some hope. As far as i'm concerned Lee is not there, too slow, i'll put Smith.
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Post by dusty64 on Sept 6, 2014 8:19:00 GMT -5
3-1 to France, clear, undisputable. Along with same old passing problems, low defence and digs from France (they picked balls from every where), especially their libero, and a general lack of energy (several times US attackers hitted the ball, but in a way that french guys picked them...). Speraw has to review other systems to cope with it and those aspects that i mentioned above. With this defeat, even USA go through the 2nd stage, have slim chances to go to the semi finals because points count to next phase. To have some chances they must beat Italy tomorrow, and even so...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 8:49:48 GMT -5
This is not a very surprising result considering how the U.S. and France have looked in their respective matches. The U.S. team looks sluggish and out of sync a lot of the time. They look good for a few plays, and then make a few bad passes, or miss a few serves, or make a bad set and/or hit the ball out, or get tooled on the block, or don't get a short ball up, or have some sort of miscommunication, and suddenly fall behind 3 or 4 points and are not able to recover. Every point they do earn seems to take a supreme effort, and once they get behind they tend to press even harder and make more errors. Their body language doesn't look good even when they are winning. It's tough to watch, but I'm still hopeful that they can somehow work it out and play a better match against Italy. France, on the other hand, is a delight to watch play right now. They have such excellent positioning and defense. They are playing with passion and excitement and it looks almost effortless.
Also, the setting has been off for the U.S. since day 1 of this tournament. Speraw tried Kawika Shoji today in the 3rd and 4th sets. I thought he did a good job in the beginning of set 4 with sets to the middle and left side, but many of his sets to the outside hitters were either too close to the net or too far away. Then his middle sets started getting worse, and Speraw pulled him. The passing has been terrible, so Micah has had to work hard just to get to the ball, let alone set it well, but I didn't think he set that well against Puerto Rico either, and we passed fairly well in that match.
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Post by dusty64 on Sept 6, 2014 9:27:04 GMT -5
This is not a very surprising result considering how the U.S. and France have looked in their respective matches. The U.S. team looks sluggish and out of sync a lot of the time. They look good for a few plays, and then make a few bad passes, or miss a few serves, or make a bad set and/or hit the ball out, or get tooled on the block, or don't get a short ball up, or have some sort of miscommunication, and suddenly fall behind 3 or 4 points and are not able to recover. Every point they do earn seems to take a supreme effort, and once they get behind they tend to press even harder and make more errors. Their body language doesn't look good even when they are winning. It's tough to watch, but I'm still hopeful that they can somehow work it out and play a better match against Italy. France, on the other hand, is a delight to watch play right now. They have such excellent positioning and defense. They are playing with passion and excitement and it looks almost effortless. Zazu, you have analyzed quite well both teams, couldn't have done better. Maybe Speraw might pick this post and think about team priorities :-) The final position might be this one, assuming that France and Iran win next matches and USA beat Italy: 1-France - 13 p 2-Iran - 11 p 3-USA - 9 p 4-Ita - 8 p As these teams will play against Poland, Serbia, Argentina and Australia, and only 3 teams will go to the semi finals and you must add this points, France and Iran have a big advantage. But as we all learned, in sport as in real life, you make accounting in the end. |
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Post by moniisia on Sept 6, 2014 14:17:37 GMT -5
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Post by darian on Sept 6, 2014 16:45:44 GMT -5
How did PR beat Italy?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 6, 2014 20:08:52 GMT -5
The short answer is they made fewer mistakes and played excellent defense. |
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Post by dusty64 on Sept 7, 2014 10:06:38 GMT -5
France 1st in pool D with 12 p, after 3-2 against Belgium, who stayed out (but what a performance). Right now 1-0 to Iran vs. P.Rico.
ANY ONE KNOWS HOW THE POINTS WILL COUNT TO NEXT PHASE? For instance, we already know that France have 12 pts, will they start next phase with 12 p or this value is divided by 2 or 3, meaning start with 6 or 4 pts. If USA loses to Italy by 3 or 4 sets, ending with 6 pts, with this "operation" will start with 3 or 2 pts.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 7, 2014 10:31:34 GMT -5
France 1st in pool D with 12 p, after 3-2 against Belgium, who stayed out (but what a performance). Right now 1-0 to Iran vs. P.Rico. ANY ONE KNOWS HOW THE POINTS WILL COUNT TO NEXT PHASE? For instance, we already know that France have 12 pts, will they start next phase with 12 p or this value is divided by 2 or 3, meaning start with 6 or 4 pts. If USA loses to Italy by 3 or 4 sets, ending with 6 pts, with this "operation" will start with 3 or 2 pts. The results and points from matches against teams that also qualified for the 2nd round from your Pool are taken with you, so if you did not do well in the 1st round, it will be much harder to reach the 3rd round. |
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Post by dusty64 on Sept 7, 2014 11:42:03 GMT -5
France 1st in pool D with 12 p, after 3-2 against Belgium, who stayed out (but what a performance). Right now 1-0 to Iran vs. P.Rico. ANY ONE KNOWS HOW THE POINTS WILL COUNT TO NEXT PHASE? For instance, we already know that France have 12 pts, will they start next phase with 12 p or this value is divided by 2 or 3, meaning start with 6 or 4 pts. If USA loses to Italy by 3 or 4 sets, ending with 6 pts, with this "operation" will start with 3 or 2 pts. The results and points from matches against teams that also qualified for the 2nd round from your Pool are taken with you, so if you did not do well in the 1st round, it will be much harder to reach the 3rd round. Yes, if USA does not take 3 pts today, curtains...because France take 7p, Iran, 5, if Italy wins by three or four takes 5 and USA remains with 1 (the only point earned against Iran). Tough match, both teams need pts. |
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