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Post by LovePennState on Sept 17, 2014 19:48:53 GMT -5
With all the talk over the most recent issue with the Florida State quarterback and a questionable 1/2 game suspension; I wonder if this happens in volleyball. Do coaches "do the right thing" or do they sweep issues under the rug to help their win-loss record. I know Coach Cook had to discipline his own daughter a few years ago, but I bet it was the best thing for her. Sure she took a lot of heat, but Nebraska is a high profile program. What do most high profile program coaches do if a top player screws up?
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Post by madonna on Sept 17, 2014 20:39:48 GMT -5
Dave Shoji has kept star players off the court before for breaking team rules. Although it was never disclosed to the media on what these players did, I do remember 2 players that were kept off the court. When Jane Croson played for Hawaii, she was kept off the court for a good portion of a season and I also remember Kim Willoughby was kept off the court for 1 or 2 sets during a match.
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Post by mikegarrison on Sept 17, 2014 23:46:15 GMT -5
Although it was never disclosed to the media on what these players did Sure it was. "Violated team rules."
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Post by madonna on Sept 17, 2014 23:51:15 GMT -5
Although it was never disclosed to the media on what these players did Sure it was. "Violated team rules." I meant the details of what each player did.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 18, 2014 12:09:15 GMT -5
Clearly, some coaches will discipline the athlete and others will sweep in under the rug.
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Post by jayj79 on Sept 18, 2014 13:23:27 GMT -5
Clearly, some coaches will discipline the athlete and others will sweep in under the rug. just b/c they don't announce it to the public doesn't mean it is "swept under the rug". And there are forms of discipline that don't necessarily involve being suspended from games/matches.
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Post by Not Me on Sept 18, 2014 13:37:06 GMT -5
Clearly, some coaches will discipline the athlete and others will sweep in under the rug. just b/c they don't announce it to the public doesn't mean it is "swept under the rug". And there are forms of discipline that don't necessarily involve being suspended from games/matches. Like running some sprints at practice? I would think that most issues arise from drinking and grades in women's volleyball. And probably most athletic departments have guidelines for those issues. You really don't hear about too many female athletes stealing or yelling profanities in the middle of campus. Btw, the biggest joke of the year is the Florida coach who suspended 3 players for the first game. Well the game was cancelled and the coach lifted the suspension. So really there was no penalty.
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 18, 2014 13:39:44 GMT -5
I remember the Kim Willoughby incident - but not too well. I remember thinking that the suspension at the time was too lenient. Again, I don't remember the incident in great detail.
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Post by Wolfgang on Sept 18, 2014 13:46:32 GMT -5
Whenever the words "suspension" or "off-the-field issues" come up, my mind immediately turn to the Lawrence Phillips incident. He assaulted his then-girlfriend (he now has a new "girlfriend" -- in prison) in 1995 and Osborne suspended him for 5 or 6 games in the season. But he let Phillips play in the national championship game (vs. Florida), where he gained something like 170 yards (just guessing). He came up with one of the most BS reasons ever for playing Phillips -- that Phillips needed a structured environment and thus, keeping him on the team and playing him would do more good than harm. I was apalled. I think that's the day I lost total respect for Osborne.
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Post by Thrill of the 'ville on Sept 18, 2014 15:47:29 GMT -5
I don't know of too many in volleyball but one incident in softball a years ago led to 3 players being kicked off of Florida's team. While its unfortunate when these incidents occur, it is nice when the coach actually steps up and disciplines the players when it could be easily swept under the rug since its not a major money sport with lots of attention.
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Post by vbnerd on Sept 18, 2014 17:26:27 GMT -5
By some estimates, a college coach's job is only 12% about coaching their sport. "Off court issues" from academics to roommate issues, to financial aid/compliance, to legal issues (players as victims and defendants), to family problems make up a good chunk of the work load.
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