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Post by Freeman on Sept 17, 2014 21:56:12 GMT -5
It happens in football and basketball, but have there been any coaches in college volleyball fired mid-season in recent memory for just performance-based reasons? Sure scandal or legal altercations can force the issue before season's end, but are expectations high enough that a head coach needs to feel pressure during their season for just performing well? I am in no way suggesting any action needs to be made right now, I know she has a lot of respect in good circles, but the start to Sherry Dunbar's season isn't exactly spelling the successful trend upward I think the Indiana administration is looking for. I'm sure there are other examples, and I'll be honest - I don't see her in danger of losing her job - not mid-season anyway, but are there places that volleyball is that important?
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Post by macroman on Sept 17, 2014 23:07:43 GMT -5
It's certainly not common. The true reasons are also seldom discussed publicly. In fact, at the college level, I can't recall hearing an AD say "He/she just didn't win enough so we decided to go another direction." EVER.
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Sept 18, 2014 8:56:58 GMT -5
It happens in football and basketball, but have there been any coaches in college volleyball fired mid-season in recent memory for just performance-based reasons? I'd like to know of any examples in football or basketball, even. The closest thing to it happening there is a football coach who gets fired after the regular season but before a bowl game, but that is an issue of starting the process to get the next coach going. You see mid-season coaching changes in pro sports, but they don't happen in college hardly at all, in any sport. It's always, "We'll evaluate at the end of the year." |
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Post by rockhopper on Sept 18, 2014 9:13:44 GMT -5
After a quick google search, it looks like Tulane fired their football coach mid-season in 2011 and Idaho did the same in 2012. Both cited a desire to begin the replacement process immediately.
I quit looking but I'd bet there are more. However, it does seem uncommon to terminate mid-season.
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Post by hebrooks87 on Sept 18, 2014 9:13:58 GMT -5
It happens in football and basketball, but have there been any coaches in college volleyball fired mid-season in recent memory for just performance-based reasons? I'd like to know of any examples in football or basketball, even. The closest thing to it happening there is a football coach who gets fired after the regular season but before a bowl game, but that is an issue of starting the process to get the next coach going. You see mid-season coaching changes in pro sports, but they don't happen in college hardly at all, in any sport. It's always, "We'll evaluate at the end of the year." I know of one in college football. Bill Michael at UTEP in 1981 after 2 games. (I'm only aware of this trivia because my mother taught him in junior high and the family stayed aware of him and Fred Akers, another one of her students.) |
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Post by The Bofa on the Sofa on Sept 18, 2014 9:19:51 GMT -5
After a quick google search, it looks like Tulane fired their football coach mid-season in 2011 and Idaho did the same in 2012. Both cited a desire to begin the replacement process immediately. I quit looking but I'd bet there are more. However, it does seem uncommon to terminate mid-season. You get misled by the pros. In the pros, it happens pretty much at least once a season (and among only 32 teams). In college, there are 120 D1 football teams, and you can find maybe an example every couple years, on average. And that is in football, which is a big bread machine. You think any AD is going to worry about cutting the losses of the volleyball program mid-season? |
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Post by vbman100 on Sept 18, 2014 9:27:07 GMT -5
Lane Kiffin - USC football 2013
I think it was because of team performance.
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Post by liquid running on Sept 18, 2014 9:28:31 GMT -5
Florida football coach Ron Zook was fired mid-season but if I remember correctly it was effective at the end of the season.
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Post by vbnerd on Sept 18, 2014 10:02:54 GMT -5
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Post by chancelucky on Sept 18, 2014 18:02:50 GMT -5
It's happened in volleyball as well. I think it happened at Georgia a few years ago and it definitely happened at Cal Poly a couple years ago.
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Post by jgrout on Sept 18, 2014 18:23:31 GMT -5
The thread title said "for performance". That was not the reason for the Cal Poly firing.
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Post by chancelucky on Sept 18, 2014 19:03:41 GMT -5
Sorry, was thinking it meant Performance as a coach and wasn't limited to won-loss record. I don't think either of those were for losing per se.
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Post by rainbowbadger on Sept 18, 2014 19:13:56 GMT -5
I am in no way suggesting any action needs to be made right now, I know she has a lot of respect in good circles, but the start to Sherry Dunbar's season isn't exactly spelling the successful trend upward I think the Indiana administration is looking for. I'm sure there are other examples, and I'll be honest - I don't see her in danger of losing her job - not mid-season anyway, but are there places that volleyball is that important? What makes you think the Indiana administration is looking for a successful trend upward? And to answer your question, Penn State. Nebraska. Maybe Texas. Not that there is any danger of that happening in any of those cases. |
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Post by macroman on Sept 18, 2014 21:55:35 GMT -5
I think the Syracuse Volleyball coaching change referenced above had more to do with a breakdown in professionalism during a match than wins and losses. Something about multiple red cards.
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Post by vbkid111 on Sept 19, 2014 7:12:30 GMT -5
Georgia fired the head coach in 2010 mid season. One of the assistants finished the season and Liz Stemke was hired that December.
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