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Post by Boof1224 on Sept 19, 2014 16:51:38 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not worried about schedule. That will sort itself out. More worried about what's going in with Washington and why did frantii struggle that bad today against a far inferior team
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Post by lionsfan on Sept 19, 2014 16:53:55 GMT -5
The Washington injury situation is starting to smell a lot like the Prieto injury situation a couple of years ago. Do anyone know if she even dressed or warmed up today? Hypothetically, if she doesn't play the rest of the season, does playing in one set burn a season, or would PSU have to apply for a medical redshirt? If she only played in 1 set, they would apply for and most assuredly get a redshirt granted, and she would still have 4 years of eligibility.
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Post by NittanyVolley on Sept 19, 2014 16:54:11 GMT -5
The Washington injury situation is starting to smell a lot like the Prieto injury situation a couple of years ago. Do anyone know if she even dressed or warmed up today? I think the 7:30 match against DePaul will be an indication of Haleigh Washington's status. I have no inside information but I know PSU will take the safe route with all injuries. If she exacerbated her injury by playing at Villanova last weekend, it seems that PSU didn't take the safe route.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Sept 19, 2014 16:54:14 GMT -5
I don't know if I agree I mean they took Stanford to 5 and did sweep UCLA but its really hard to gauge where this team is at. They looked impressive in the weekend they spent out in California but geez to this point a lot of other teams have played better more challenging schedules. They have literally only one good win UCLA. A team like FSU could make an argument to be ranked higher than them. I can see that Russ maybe recognized his team was young and didn't want to push them too much but where are they in the RPI. You're being way too critical of the schedule. Stanford, UCLA, Kansas and even American are not pushovers in any sense. What do you think the schedule should have been? Yes, other teams have tougher ones. But many don't. Many are similar, like Texas and Washington. Penn State will not fail at the end of the season because of their pre-conference schedule. Penn states schedule has an average rpi of 135.6. Not the greatest. But regardless, penn state is top 5 in the nation right now and nothing can change that.
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Post by NittanyVolley on Sept 19, 2014 16:55:23 GMT -5
The Washington injury situation is starting to smell a lot like the Prieto injury situation a couple of years ago. Do anyone know if she even dressed or warmed up today? It's a fine line. The kids are kids and you want to respect their privacy. On the other hand, we live in a world in which professional teams put out weekly injury reports. Tough to balance want to and need to know. I don't think I'm asking for privileged medical information by asking whether she dressed out or warmed up for the EIU match.
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Post by gogophers on Sept 19, 2014 17:16:25 GMT -5
This is a down year for the B1G, and outside of Stanford does PSU face another top 10 team at all for the rest of the season with the exception of Wisconsin. I think Nebraska will drop out of the top 10 unless they upset Texas which sounds unlikely. The schedule for Penn State looks really weak. They are literally killing these lesser teams. How many top 10 teams do you expect the Big10 to have normally? Usually, during the season it's Nebraska and then maybe one other team hanging around the 10th spot. If someone gets hot in the tournament, as Michigan did in 2012 and Wisconsin last year, you might end up with someone who wasn't in the top 10 at regular season's end leapfrogging their way in and adding to the total. But often, for large parts of the season, it's been two top 10 teams for the Big10. Nothing new. Don't discount Nebraska so soon. Didn't it lose to Auburn in the opening match last year? (or year before; the years blur) I mean, upsets happen in the pre-conference part of the season, even to top 10 teams. They shouldn't happen to #1, 2, or 3, but once you get to the 9 or 10 spot you're talking about teams that are very good but hardly invincible. I say the same about Illinois and Purdue. Both are obviously capable of having a bad night. But there is a lot of talent there, and in the next two months, no one should be surprised if that talent rises to the fore. If one or the other of those teams knocks off Wisconsin or PSU, you'll be hearing talk about how the early season losses were just one of those unfortunate speed bumps. Adding to my own post may seem like talking to one's self, but anyway: another early OOC upset came to mind: PSU itself in 2010 in the opening match, at home no less, against Oregon State. PSU went on to win it all that year. So you can make too much of an early season upset. They happen. Don't count out all the other Big10 teams just yet.
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Post by lionsfan on Sept 19, 2014 17:51:24 GMT -5
How many top 10 teams do you expect the Big10 to have normally? Usually, during the season it's Nebraska and then maybe one other team hanging around the 10th spot. If someone gets hot in the tournament, as Michigan did in 2012 and Wisconsin last year, you might end up with someone who wasn't in the top 10 at regular season's end leapfrogging their way in and adding to the total. But often, for large parts of the season, it's been two top 10 teams for the Big10. Nothing new. Don't discount Nebraska so soon. Didn't it lose to Auburn in the opening match last year? (or year before; the years blur) I mean, upsets happen in the pre-conference part of the season, even to top 10 teams. They shouldn't happen to #1, 2, or 3, but once you get to the 9 or 10 spot you're talking about teams that are very good but hardly invincible. I say the same about Illinois and Purdue. Both are obviously capable of having a bad night. But there is a lot of talent there, and in the next two months, no one should be surprised if that talent rises to the fore. If one or the other of those teams knocks off Wisconsin or PSU, you'll be hearing talk about how the early season losses were just one of those unfortunate speed bumps. Adding to my own post may seem like talking to one's self, but anyway: another early OOC upset came to mind: PSU itself in 2010 in the opening match, at home no less, against Oregon State. PSU went on to win it all that year. So you can make too much of an early season upset. They happen. Don't count out all the other Big10 teams just yet. Penn State lost to Oregon at home to open the 2011 season; they lost to Oregon State on neutral ground a little into the season in 2012.
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Post by hammer on Sept 19, 2014 17:52:57 GMT -5
The Washington injury situation is starting to smell a lot like the Prieto injury situation a couple of years ago. Do anyone know if she even dressed or warmed up today? Hypothetically, if she doesn't play the rest of the season, does playing in one set burn a season, or would PSU have to apply for a medical redshirt? I'd ask Jessica:
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Post by NittanyVolley on Sept 19, 2014 17:56:21 GMT -5
Hypothetically, if she doesn't play the rest of the season, does playing in one set burn a season, or would PSU have to apply for a medical redshirt? I'd ask Jessica: Is she like the Dear Abby of volleyball?
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Post by Boof1224 on Sept 19, 2014 18:01:57 GMT -5
I don't know about that but she's hot. Lol
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Post by gnu2vball on Sept 19, 2014 18:30:46 GMT -5
It's a fine line. The kids are kids and you want to respect their privacy. On the other hand, we live in a world in which professional teams put out weekly injury reports. Tough to balance want to and need to know. I don't think I'm asking for privileged medical information by asking whether she dressed out or warmed up for the EIU match. Completely agree. I guess I'm too sensitive. I was "schooled" over being a bit too curious over Ariel Scott's status early last season. I'd also love to know if she dressed-out.
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Post by truffleshuffle on Sept 19, 2014 23:14:21 GMT -5
They'd be killing some greater teams too. I don't know if I agree I mean they took Stanford to 5 and did sweep UCLA but its really hard to gauge where this team is at. They looked impressive in the weekend they spent out in California but geez to this point a lot of other teams have played better more challenging schedules. They have literally only one good win UCLA. A team like FSU could make an argument to be ranked higher than them. I can see that Russ maybe recognized his team was young and didn't want to push them too much but where are they in the RPI. Penn State is #1 in Pablo and Florida State is #17. Penn State wouldn't take 5 sets to beat Auburn at home. There is a better argument that Penn State is still the best team in the country, considering that they won more points than Stanford in a match held in at Stanford's home court. PSU's geographic location does work against them to some extent. Stanford has left California for one weekend (Iowa State/Nebraska) in its out-of-conference schedule, but it's a lot easier for them to play good California teams (like San Diego) than it is for PSU to play good teams from Pennsylvania or neighboring states. It's also a lot easier for Stanford to get other teams (like Duke) to come in to play - if you want to give your student athletes a nice travel match against a good team, where do you think they'd rather go, California or central Pennsylvania? At the end of the day, it really doesn't matter. Teams like FSU and Florida that aspire to be national powers have to play tougher OOC schedules because they compete in weak conferences. PSU will play plenty of matches against the likes of Nebraska, Wisconsin, Illinois and Purdue, all of whom should be comfortably inside the top 25. PSU will do more than enough to host matches on the first weekend of the tournament, and after that they play four more matches. It's not the old college football system where you might not make the title game if your schedule isn't strong enough. There's a 64 team tournament to prove who is best, so playing a weak or tough OOC schedule is pretty much moot.
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Post by ay2013 on Sept 19, 2014 23:15:00 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not worried about schedule. That will sort itself out. More worried about what's going in with Washington and why did frantii struggle that bad today against a far inferior team because freshmen are consistently inconsistent? it's one of the few things you can count on in volleyball.
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Post by truffleshuffle on Sept 19, 2014 23:24:41 GMT -5
Yeah I'm not worried about schedule. That will sort itself out. More worried about what's going in with Washington and why did frantii struggle that bad today against a far inferior team because freshmen are consistently inconsistent? it's one of the few things you can count on in volleyball. No kidding. The hand-wringing about occasional poor performances by freshmen never fails to crack me up. She's 18 years old and in her first month of taking college courses, not to mention probably still making friends, adjusting to living away from home, and oh by the way, playing against teams full of athletes who are on scholarship. For a program that constantly has national championship aspirations, in front of crowds far bigger than she would have played in front of in high school. And that's the stuff we know about - there are things like minor injuries, illness and fatigue that we generally wouldn't hear about at all. I know that everyone on volleytalk entered college as mature, cosmopolitan people but please, try to understand that some 18 year olds are different.
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