VolleyTalk Top 25 (Week 4)

[trojansc]

Vote Your Top 25!

Last Week's Poll:
VolleyTalk Top 25 (9/15/2014)


This Week's Poll: (Compiled 9/22/2014) The # in brackets [] is this Week's AVCA Poll, the # in Parentheses is the total votes...

VolleyTalk Top 25
1. [1] Stanford (244)
2. [4] Washington (231)
2. [2] Texas (231)
4. [3] Penn State (225)
5. [5] Wisconsin (211)
6. [6] Florida St. (206)
7. [7] Colorado St (174)
8. [13] Oregon (168)
9. [11] BYU (152)
10. [8] Nebraska (151)
11. [10] Florida (139)
12. [9] Southern California (138)
13. [12] North Carolina (128)
14. [16] Illinois (123)
15. [21] Loyola Marymount (99)
16. [14] Kentucky (91)
17. [20] UCLA (83)
18. [17] Minnesota (82)
19. [15] Purdue (79)
20. [19] Arizona State (77)
21. [22] Texas A&M (55)
22. [18] Arizona (42)
23. [25] Hawai'i (34)
24. [RV] Marquette (22)
24. [23] Kansas (22)


Receiving Votes

26. Duke (10)
27. Appalachian State (8)
28. Cal State Northridge (6)
28. San Diego (6)
30. Louisville (5)
31. Oregon St (2)
31. Northwestern (2)
33. Kansas State


Here's my Poll (The # in parentheses is the VolleyTalk Top 25 from last week, not MY poll from last week)
I'll Compile the results for this week sometime on Monday.

1. Stanford (1)
2. Texas (2)
3. Washington (5)
4. Penn State (3)
5. Florida State (6)
6. Wisconsin (4)
7. Oregon (7)
8. Colorado State (9)
9. BYU (14)
10. Nebraska (9)
11. Florida (8)
12. Illinois (16)
13. Loyola Marymount (19)
14. Arizona (21)
15. North Carolina (11)
16. Texas A&M (15)
17. Southern California (13)
18. UCLA (18)
19. Minnesota (22)
20. Kentucky (16)
21. Appalachian State (Receiving Votes)
22. Arizona State (20)
23. Marquette (Not Ranked)
24. Kansas (25)
25. Hawai'i (24)

(just out of reach: Louisville, Purdue, Kansas State, Oklahoma, Cal State Northridge, Duke, Northwestern)

Important Matches next week:

#1 Stanford vs. California & Washington State
#3 Washington vs. Washington State plays AT California
#4 Penn State at #6 Wisconsin, at #19 Minnesota
#5 Florida State vs. #15 North Carolina
#6 Wisconsin vs. #4 Penn State
#13 Loyola Marymount at Pacific and at Saint Mary's
#15 North Carolina vs. #5 Florida State
#17 Southern California vs. #18 UCLA, vs. #22 Arizona State
#19 Minnesota vs. #4 Penn State
#18 UCLA at #17 Southern California, vs. Arizona (at Pepperdine University)
#24 Kansas at Oklahoma


Random Predictions:
Stanford and Washington sweep their opening series
Penn State falls to Wisconsin
Florida State takes down North Carolina
LMU remains unbeaten for another week
USC beats UCLA
Minnesota falls to Penn State
UCLA beats Arizona
USC beats Arizona State
Oklahoma beats Kansas

[dcvolleyball]

1. Stanford
2. Texas
3. Washington
4. Penn State
5. Wisconsin
6. Nebraska
7. Oregon
8. Florida State
9. Illinois
10. Minnesota
11. USC
12. Arizona
13. North Carolina
14. Kentucky
15. Colorado State
16. BYU
17. Florida
18. UCLA
19. Texas A&M
20. Loyola Marymount
21. Arizona State
22. Marquette
23. Kansas
24. Louisville
25. Iowa State

[Boof1224]

I don't think Washington will move ahead of psu just because it's being based in washingtons win against badgers who penn state plays wed. No need for the move now

[dawgnerd]

Sept 21, 2014 10:06:41 GMT -5 Boof1224 said:

I don't think Washington will move ahead of psu just because it's being based in washingtons win against badgers who penn state plays wed. No need for the move now

Wonder how much of that kind of thinking (There will be a more decisive game soon) kept folks from moving Washington relative to Wisconsin recently.

[tempesthorn]

1. Washington
2. Wisconsin
3. Texas
4. Florida State
5. Stanford
6. Penn State
7. Colorado State
8. BYU
9. Nebraska
10. Florida
11. USC
12. Oregon
13. North Carolina
14. Kentucky
15. Minnesota
16. Arizona State
17. Arizona
18. Purdue
19. Loyola Marymount
20. UCLA
21. Illinois
22. Kansas
23. Texas A&M
24. Hawai'i
25. Kansas State

[Boof1224]

Sept 21, 2014 10:39:37 GMT -5 dawgnerd said:

Sept 21, 2014 10:06:41 GMT -5 Boof1224 said:

I don't think Washington will move ahead of psu just because it's being based in washingtons win against badgers who penn state plays wed. No need for the move now

Wonder how much of that kind of thinking (There will be a more decisive game soon) kept folks from moving Washington relative to Wisconsin recently.

I believe it's same scenario when Stanford swept Nebraska at home and psu hadn't played anyone yet but had Stanford that next week. It's another case of things will sort themselves out following week. No reason to move them now

[tomclen]

Sept 21, 2014 10:47:27 GMT -5 Boof1224 said:

Sept 21, 2014 10:39:37 GMT -5 dawgnerd said:

Wonder how much of that kind of thinking (There will be a more decisive game soon) kept folks from moving Washington relative to Wisconsin recently.

I believe it's same scenario when Stanford swept Nebraska at home and psu hadn't played anyone yet but had Stanford that next week. It's another case of things will sort themselves out following week. No reason to move them now

Extend that logic and there is no reason to have a poll until after the tournament ends.

Yes, next weeks' games will sort things out. So will the week after. And the week after that.

Fact is, this, in theory, should be a vote on what's happened so far. Who has won. Who they beat and who they've played.

YOu can wait and see what happens. Or you can have a poll based on wins and losses and quality of opposition.

[bluepenquin]

Sept 21, 2014 10:06:41 GMT -5 Boof1224 said:

I don't think Washington will move ahead of psu just because it's being based in washingtons win against badgers who penn state plays wed. No need for the move now

I believe this is each person's poll, not  a prediction of the where this weeks poll will end.  For me - my baseline is where I had these teams to start the week.  I already had Washington ahead of Penn State - and after this week I still have them ahead of Penn State.  We all have our own POV.

[Deleted]

My poll is who I think is best
Not necessarily where they deserve to be ranked based on wins

1) PSU
2) Stanford
3) Washington
4) Texas
5) Wisconsin
6) Florida state

[Boof1224]

Sept 21, 2014 11:28:51 GMT -5 @axldahlgren said:

My poll is who I think is best
Not necessarily where they deserve to be ranked based on wins

1) PSU
2) Stanford
3) Washington
4) Texas
5) Wisconsin
6) Florida state

As psu fan wish that were true. I could only put them in that position if they had a super impressive weekend on road against badger and gophers this week. I don't think just winning would do it for me it would be how they won. Not quite ready to put them ahead of Stanford yet. Yes that head to head was close and could have gone either way. We could even argue if it was on a neutral court psu prob wins. As of now though if still put Stanford at best. Texas is right there but seeing some of their matches Stanford seems to have it more together then them.

[ay2013]

Sept 21, 2014 10:47:27 GMT -5 Boof1224 said:

Sept 21, 2014 10:39:37 GMT -5 dawgnerd said:

Wonder how much of that kind of thinking (There will be a more decisive game soon) kept folks from moving Washington relative to Wisconsin recently.

I believe it's same scenario when Stanford swept Nebraska at home and psu hadn't played anyone yet but had Stanford that next week. It's another case of things will sort themselves out following week. No reason to move them now

Except that Stanford actually did move up after that week, ahead of Texas. I'm not arguing that Washington should jump Texas or PSU, frankly I don't care if they do or not, I'm just pointing out that in week 1 when Texas didn't play anyone and Stanford beat Nebraska and Iowa State, they did jump Texas in the polls. Now, for this weeks poll, Texas played a tough weekend so no real reason for anyone to jump them, but maybe Texas bumps above PSU and perhaps the voters will bump UW too? Like I said, I don't care if they do, but you are arguing a "scenario" that isn't applicable here. After week 1, Stanford didn't jump PSU to #1, but they did jump Texas to get to #2. Sure Stanford and PSU were playing each other the next weekend, but what does that have to do with anything? Is Washington going to be playing Texas or PSU next weekend? I don't think that the immediate future schedule has any impact on where teams are ranked.

[baywatcher]

This is harder than it looks. Around 9 things really get gummy. Still results oriented, so this is based more on what you've done than will do, although Penn State should be lower than they are under that analysis.

1. Stanford
2. Florida St.
3. Texas
4. Penn St.
5. Washington
6. Wisconsin
7. Oregon
8. North Carolina
9. Loyola Marymount
10. Colorado St.
11. Texas A&M
12. UCLA
13. Illinois
14. Florida
15. USC
16. Kentucky
17. Arizona St.
18. BYU
19. Marquette
20. Purdue
21. Nebraska
22. Hawaii
23. Louisville
24. Oregon State
25. Iowa State

Nebraskas signature win is over Creighton, and the San Diego/LSU wins for Purdue aren't looking as good lately. Both should move up with conference wins. Minnesota has a strong tradition and a win over Iowa St., but 8 wins over 100+ Pablo teams right now. Oregon State and Northwestern have nearly equal credentials, so I put Oregon State in because how long has it been since they were Top 25? Won't last long, but wouldn't for Northwestern, either. Iowa State is in as a second Big 12 team, which conference is close to best winning %, but nobody besides Texas has signature wins (Oklahoma is CSUNorthridge, Kansas Creighton, K State Michigan + 9 over 100 Pablo wins) I suppose Kansas has as much to warrant consideration as Nebraska, though also 9 over 100, but we can wait until the Big 12 teams start separating from each other.

[kahusancali]

My Top 10 choice this week. Will be trending this online
1. Stanford
2. Texas
3. Penn State
4. Florida State
5. Wisconsin
6. Oregon
7. Colorado State
8. BYU
9. Nebraska
10. Florida

[tomclen]

Sept 21, 2014 13:19:57 GMT -5 kahusancali said:

My Top 10 choice this week. Will be trending this online
1. Stanford
2. Texas
3. Penn State
4. Florida State
5. Wisconsin
6. Oregon
7. Colorado State
8. BYU
9. Nebraska
10. Florida

Not a believer in Washington yet?

[volleyfuntimes]

Sept 21, 2014 11:28:51 GMT -5 @axldahlgren said:

My poll is who I think is best
Not necessarily where they deserve to be ranked based on wins

1) PSU
2) Stanford
3) Washington
4) Texas
5) Wisconsin
6) Florida state

I agree except maybe Wisconsin ahead of Texas or tied!