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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 5, 2014 17:00:52 GMT -5
Standings:
(3) Stanford 6-0
(4) Washington 6-0
(13) Arizona 4-2
(8) Oregon 4-2
(19) ASU 3-3
(30) Colorado 3-3
(24) OSU 3-3
(15) UCLA 3-3
(20) USC 3-3
(29) Utah 1-5
(57) Cal 0-6
(41) WSU 0-6
(Oct 6 pablo rankings)
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Head-to-head among favorites
Stanford: (3-0) [8 remaining: UCLA, USC, @Ore, ASU, AZ, @USC, @UCLA, @UW]
Washington: (3-0) [8 remaining: @ASU, @AZ, @USC, @UCLA, Ore, AZ, ASU, Stan]
Arizona: (2-1) [7 remaining: UW, @Ore, @Stan, Ore, @UW, USC, @ASU]
ASU: (1-2) [7 remaining: UW, @Ore, @Stan, Ore, @UW, UCLA, AZ]
UCLA: (1-2) [7 remaining: Ore, @Stan, UW, Stan, @Ore, @ASU, USC]
Oregon: (0-2) [10 remaining: @UCLA, @USC, AZ, ASU, Stan, @UW, @AZ, @ASU, UCLA, USC]
USC: (0-3) [7 remaining: Ore, @Stan, UW, Stan, @Ore, @AZ, @UCLA]
Losses by these teams to others:
Arizona (1): @Colorado
ASU (1): @Utah
UCLA (1): Colorado
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This week's matches (Pacific times)
Wed:
7:30pm Cal@AZ
Fri:
6pm Col@USC, UW@OSU
7pm WSU@Ore, Cal@ASU
8pm Stan@AZ, Utah@UCLA
Sat:
7pm Utah@USC, WSU@OSU
Sun:
11am UW@Ore, Stan@ASU, Col@UCLA
Bold is pablo favorite.
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Week 4 schedule:
Wash@Arizona, BayArea@Mountains, Oregon@LA
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Post by volleyfan24 on Oct 5, 2014 17:21:35 GMT -5
Arizona really needed to win today their upcoming schedule is brutal. They could lose their next 4 or 5 and I wouldn't be surprised.
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Post by volleyfan24 on Oct 5, 2014 17:25:54 GMT -5
Behind Stanford and Washington I have no idea who will finish 3rd in the PAC-12 its really anyone's I would say Oregon but their schedule says no. Arizona and ASU losses didn't look good and UCLA could take it if they play well enough.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 6, 2014 1:01:59 GMT -5
Arizona really needed to win today their upcoming schedule is brutal. They could lose their next 4 or 5 and I wouldn't be surprised. Washington lost at Colorado last year and still won the conference. There is nothing yet stopping Arizona from doing the same thing. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 6, 2014 14:07:27 GMT -5
Unless I read it wrong, pablo is predicting all home team wins this week except for Stanford and Washington going 2-0 on the road. Washington at Oregon looked like pablo's closest matchup.
Pablo now saying Cal is the worst team in the PAC, but still better than the mean average ranking of all other conferences except the Big 12 and the PAC-12.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 6, 2014 14:16:31 GMT -5
Cougars sitting at 0-4 but they have played Washington, Stanford, USC, and UCLA. And they have pushed some of those teams reasonably hard, too. Couple that with the fact that most teams they face will be spending most of their energy and practice worrying about Washington, and I expect to see WSU get some upset wins this year.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 6, 2014 14:34:56 GMT -5
I'm wondering if Arizona and UCLA, after a hot start, will fall back closer to pre-season expectations over the course of the next month. They are probably the most reliant on one player with some of the highest usage rates (Kingdon esp. if you factor total touches) who have shown stamina issues in the past, and we might have started to see the effects of the wear and tear this weekend.
I'm also really curious about ASU. They were really inconsistent last year, but I thought they would grow out of it more considering the continuity they've had.
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Post by indyrun on Oct 6, 2014 16:32:15 GMT -5
I also wonder (and worry - one of my favs) about Arizona - they played Fri & Sunday, have 2 days to prepare for Cal on Wed, and one day to get ready for Stanford on Friday. The continued expansion of conferences are turning these playing schedules into nightmares, I'm sure, for all. Know these are young, athletic & strong young ladies, but we all know how predominate injuries are becoming in this sport, and here (Arizona & others, I'm sure) we are cramming 4 matches into 8 days, culminating, after one day of preparation, a game against the #1 team in the country. Am I the only one thinking the scheduling is fast getting out of hand? Fatigue, injuries, traveling and - almost forgot - these kids are supposed to be students also. It wasn't long ago when the matches were Fri & Sun, or Thurs & Sat, and then they played again basically same days the next week.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 6, 2014 16:52:59 GMT -5
I also wonder (and worry - one of my favs) about Arizona - they played Fri & Sunday, have 2 days to prepare for Cal on Wed, and one day to get ready for Stanford on Friday. The continued expansion of conferences are turning these playing schedules into nightmares, I'm sure, for all. Know these are young, athletic & strong young ladies, but we all know how predominate injuries are becoming in this sport, and here (Arizona & others, I'm sure) we are cramming 4 matches into 8 days, culminating, after one day of preparation, a game against the #1 team in the country. Am I the only one thinking the scheduling is fast getting out of hand? Fatigue, injuries, traveling and - almost forgot - these kids are supposed to be students also. It wasn't long ago when the matches were Fri & Sun, or Thurs & Sat, and then they played again basically same days the next week. Actually, in the PAC-10 they were almost always exclusively Fri/Sat except for the occasional Sun match to avoid competing with football. Washington attendance is significantly down from that time. UW draws a good 1000 more fans on a Friday or Sat night than it does any other time. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 6, 2014 16:58:58 GMT -5
Let me reiterate how sad it is that UW @ UO is at eleven freaking AM on a Sunday morning. Ducks REALLY could have packed the students into Matthew Knight Arena on a Friday night. They got 3.5K just against Colorado - that's not a rivalry match and not a Top 11 match-up.
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Post by tomclen on Oct 6, 2014 18:02:55 GMT -5
Let me reiterate how sad it is that UW @ UO is at eleven freaking AM on a Sunday morning. Ducks REALLY could have packed the students into Matthew Knight Arena on a Friday night. They got 3.5K just against Colorado - that's not a rivalry match and not a Top 11 match-up. It sucks on a number of levels. But in some ways this may be the toughest trip to Oregon that UW has had in a long time. Because it seems that UO and OSU are both very good this year. I don't think it's unreasonable to think that Washington could suffer two losses on this trip. And there are very few years when that's been a reasonable expectation. |
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Post by leftcoaster71 on Oct 6, 2014 18:12:46 GMT -5
I also wonder (and worry - one of my favs) about Arizona - they played Fri & Sunday, have 2 days to prepare for Cal on Wed, and one day to get ready for Stanford on Friday. The continued expansion of conferences are turning these playing schedules into nightmares, I'm sure, for all. Know these are young, athletic & strong young ladies, but we all know how predominate injuries are becoming in this sport, and here (Arizona & others, I'm sure) we are cramming 4 matches into 8 days, culminating, after one day of preparation, a game against the #1 team in the country. Am I the only one thinking the scheduling is fast getting out of hand? Fatigue, injuries, traveling and - almost forgot - these kids are supposed to be students also. It wasn't long ago when the matches were Fri & Sun, or Thurs & Sat, and then they played again basically same days the next week. I'm going to slightly disagree with this. While I am not a fan of the expansions and the unbalanced schedules they have created, these schedule that we are seeing are specifically to fill in TV time on the Pac-12 network. It's a bit of a double edged sword. I'm very happy that PAC-12 has really made a strong push for the sport but in order to air so much volleyball, it has come at the cost of the easy-to-remember schedules that we were so used to. |
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Post by indyrun on Oct 7, 2014 12:13:20 GMT -5
left coaster71 - I agree the PAC network plays a significant part in the strange and ridiculous scheduling, BUT the inability to have time to adequately prepare for matches (caused by TV OR continued expansion of leagues) I'm convinced, impacts the quality of the game in the long run. The "cost of the easy-to-remember schedules", certainly has nothing to do with MY comments on the issue - I manage to keep a pretty up to date calendar for matches that interest me.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 7, 2014 12:36:37 GMT -5
left coaster71 - I agree the PAC network plays a significant part in the strange and ridiculous scheduling, BUT the inability to have time to adequately prepare for matches (caused by TV OR continued expansion of leagues) I'm convinced, impacts the quality of the game in the long run. The "cost of the easy-to-remember schedules", certainly has nothing to do with MY comments on the issue - I manage to keep a pretty up to date calendar for matches that interest me. For that matter, the PAC schedule is listed in this thread every week. The issue isn't really whether they are easy to remember. The issue is that more people were able/willing to attend matches on Fri/Sat night than they are on Wed night and Sunday morning. I'm not sure the tradeoff with expanded access on TV is worth it. (And it is somewhat unfair that teams get different amounts of time off between matches.) |
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Post by tomclen on Oct 7, 2014 12:41:06 GMT -5
It still strikes me as counterproductive to the sport to put VB matches on TV at 11 a.m. Pacific Time on Sundays.
Why compete head-to-head with the heart of the NFL TV juggernaut?
If you need to schedule Sunday matches, why not do it at 6 p.m. or 7 p.m. when there's only one NFL game still being played.
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