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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 12, 2014 23:16:47 GMT -5
Standings:
(4) Stanford 8-0 (3) Washington 8-0 (14) Arizona 5-3 (8) Oregon 5-3 (12) UCLA 5-3 (19) ASU 4-4 (31) Colorado 4-4 (20) USC 4-4 (23) OSU 3-5 (36) Utah 2-6 (62) Cal 0-8 (51) WSU 0-8
(Oct 13 pablo rankings)
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Head-to-head among favorites
Washington: (5-0) [6 remaining: @USC, @UCLA, Ore, AZ, ASU, Stan] Stanford: (3-0) [8 remaining: UCLA, USC, @Ore, ASU, AZ, @USC, @UCLA, @UW] Arizona: (2-2) [6 remaining: @Ore, @Stan, Ore, @UW, USC, @ASU] UCLA: (2-2) [6 remaining: @Stan, UW, Stan, @Ore, @ASU, USC] ASU: (1-3) [6 remaining: @Ore, @Stan, Ore, @UW, UCLA, AZ] Oregon: (1-3) [8 remaining: AZ, ASU, Stan, @UW, @AZ, @ASU, UCLA, USC] USC: (0-4) [6 remaining: @Stan, UW, Stan, @Ore, @AZ, @UCLA]
Losses by these teams to others:
Arizona (1): @Colorado ASU (1): @Utah UCLA (1): Colorado
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This week's matches (Pacific times)
Wed: 7:30pm Ore@UCLA
Fri: 4pm Cal@Utah 6pm UW@ASU, WSU@AZ, Stan@Col 7:30pm OSU@UCLA 8pm Ore@USC
Sun: 11am WSU@ASU, OSU@USC, Cal@Col 1pm Stan@Utah 3pm UW@AZ
Bold is pablo favorite.
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Week 5 schedule:
Mountains@Washington, Arizona@Oregon, LA@BayArea
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 12, 2014 23:21:37 GMT -5
So the Wed match is not on TV. The Sunday matches are all on TV, so good news, bad news. Good news is six straight hours of volleyball (depending on regional schedules). Bad news is five matches on Sunday (and the Huskies probably don't get home until very late Sunday night).
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Post by aztecbuff on Oct 12, 2014 23:37:34 GMT -5
That is weird on the Wednesday night game. I looked at the Pac 12 schedule, and it doesn't look like they are showing any other live sporting event at the same time.
I'm assuming it may be that UCLA/ Pac 12 doesn't have sufficient mobile facilities to telecast a UCLA "home" match from the Crossroads School in Santa Monica, which is where the UCLA schedule lists both the OU and OSU matches being played. (For serious fans, the schedule does have a link for both matches to "tunein radio", so hopefully they'll at minimum be audio.)
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 12, 2014 23:46:56 GMT -5
That is weird on the Wednesday night game. I looked at the Pac 12 schedule, and it doesn't look like they are showing any other live sporting event at the same time. I'm assuming it may be that UCLA/ Pac 12 doesn't have sufficient mobile facilities to telecast a UCLA "home" match from the Crossroads School in Santa Monica, which is where the UCLA schedule lists both the OU and OSU matches being played. (For serious fans, the schedule does have a link for both matches to "tunein radio", so hopefully they'll at minimum be audio.) Oh! I thought it would be at Pepperdine. OK, yeah, I can see them just not being able to cover a match from a high school gym.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 12, 2014 23:49:59 GMT -5
BTW, I decided to check into flights from Tuscon to Seattle Sunday evening. Unless the Huskies have a charter, they are screwed. There were two options offered: a flight leaving at 6:10 and one leaving at 9:50. With a 3pm match start time, can they really buy tickets for a 6:10 flight? I think not.
But maybe they have a charter flight?
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Post by Mocha on Oct 13, 2014 0:36:00 GMT -5
Nice job by Colorado, winning three in a row after starting Pac-12 play 0-3.
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Post by aztecbuff on Oct 13, 2014 0:44:41 GMT -5
Nice job by Colorado, winning three in a row after starting Pac-12 play 0-3. Actually, the Buffs lost to USC Friday, so it's not 3 in a row. (The Buff's in the Pac so far this year- Utah ((H)ome)- W, Oregon ((R)oad)- L, ASU (H)- L, AZ (H)- W, USC (R)- L, UCLA (R)- W)
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 13, 2014 0:44:52 GMT -5
Nice job by Colorado, winning three in a row after starting Pac-12 play 0-3. Well yes, except that's not what happened. Colorado beat Utah, then lost two, then won one, then lost one, then won one.
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Post by Mocha on Oct 13, 2014 0:58:29 GMT -5
Aghh, my bad. It was Utah (Colorado's traveling partner) that started 0-3, got them mixed up.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 13, 2014 1:07:12 GMT -5
Right now the difference between the Oregon and OSU records is that Oregon beat OSU. OSU could make a real statement this week if they can beat USC or UCLA (or both).
Almost the same story for the Arizona and ASU records (but in that case they didn't beat and lose to the exact same teams).
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 13, 2014 14:34:22 GMT -5
Updated for pablo.
Some interesting switches in pablo, as Washington moved slightly ahead of Stanford and UCLA improved while Colorado dropped -- even though Colorado won at UCLA.
Pablo gives a slight edge to UCLA v. Oregon due to HCA, but does UCLA really have a HCA right now? (Of course pablo doesn't know anything about UCLA's water main problems.)
Cal and WSU both dropped in pablo, which isn't all that much of a surprise, except that WSU played reasonably well against both Oregon teams on the road.
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 13, 2014 14:42:07 GMT -5
I really don't understand what is supporting UCLA's rating in pablo. Their best results are wins over USC and Illinois (and playing Washington to a reasonably close 5 sets). How that overcomes losing (badly!) to Colorado at home is rather mystifying.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 13, 2014 14:56:00 GMT -5
I really don't understand what is supporting UCLA's rating in pablo. Their best results are wins over USC and Illinois (and playing Washington to a reasonably close 5 sets). How that overcomes losing (badly!) to Colorado at home is rather mystifying. I think it's mostly that one match against Colorado is less than 6% of the input on UCLA's ranking. USC and Illinois are very highly ranked and the scorelines are quite dramatic there (and both neutral/away) - definitely not what you would expect from three teams that are basically rated the same. Throw in the Hawaii road sweep and some blowout wins over Top 100 types and the win column supports an even higher ranking. The losses, apart from Colorado, are respectable (and in scoreline as well).
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 13, 2014 15:02:36 GMT -5
I really don't understand what is supporting UCLA's rating in pablo. Their best results are wins over USC and Illinois (and playing Washington to a reasonably close 5 sets). How that overcomes losing (badly!) to Colorado at home is rather mystifying. I think it's mostly that one match against Colorado is less than 6% of the input on UCLA's ranking. USC and Illinois are very highly ranked and the scorelines are quite dramatic there (and both neutral/away) - definitely not what you would expect from three teams that are basically rated the same. Throw in the Hawaii road sweep and some blowout wins over Top 100 types and the win column supports an even higher ranking. The losses, apart from Colorado, are respectable (and in scoreline as well). One of the most valuable things pablo does is that it balances out the whole set of results without being biased by particularly recent and/or visible data. Still, sometimes the emergent properties really surprise me.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 13, 2014 15:06:12 GMT -5
I think it's mostly that one match against Colorado is less than 6% of the input on UCLA's ranking. USC and Illinois are very highly ranked and the scorelines are quite dramatic there (and both neutral/away) - definitely not what you would expect from three teams that are basically rated the same. Throw in the Hawaii road sweep and some blowout wins over Top 100 types and the win column supports an even higher ranking. The losses, apart from Colorado, are respectable (and in scoreline as well). One of the most valuable things pablo does is that it balances out the whole set of results without being biased by particularly recent and/or visible data. Still, sometimes the emergent properties really surprise me. Agreed. Though a PAC-12 fan, I think Pablo might be a little too high on the conference this year. My eyeball test says Oregon should probably be about 4-5 spots lower, as should ASU and the LA schools. But Pablo is kicking my behind in PTW this year, so who am I to say?
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