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Post by Phaedrus on Oct 22, 2014 5:47:56 GMT -5
Meh, a Stanford education is over rated.
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Post by rockhopper on Oct 22, 2014 7:13:01 GMT -5
She's getting a STANFORD education for free and daddy is mad about playing time. The world we live in is really messed up..... I think several of you are out of line. I doubt that the dad in question wanted his daughter discussed on VT. And he never said that he was mad. He did say it was a hard pill to swallow and that it was hard for him to not play the what if game. It takes a perfect storm to make a volleyball player that is recruited to play at the top programs. To get to that point they have to be physically blessed, be passionate about the sport, be willing to study the game and develop a high volleyball IQ, be fortunate enough to have access to good volleyball training and be devoted enough to make countless sacrifices socially and financially at a young age. Of course it is hard to watch someone work that hard for something, finally attain it and then have things work out differently than you had planned.
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Post by volleytology on Oct 22, 2014 7:27:47 GMT -5
That's why in the recruiting process players must take into account many factors, including the opportunity for playing time. Of course nothing is guaranteed, but being able to contribute on the court should be a serious consideration. Many HS players don't realize the daily investment in time and energy that college volleyball requires and to not have a meaningful playing role, is very difficult. Choose wisely...
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Post by rockhopper on Oct 22, 2014 10:28:29 GMT -5
We aren't talking about just any old recruit who didn't do her homework. We are talking about the #10 recruit in her class. It is reasonable for the #10 recruit to expect to contribute on the court for any program in the country.
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Post by kro2488 on Oct 22, 2014 10:43:40 GMT -5
The biggest contribution those that don't see playing time or very little playing time make, is to make the team better in practice. Sometimes if they keep working hard they will start getting playing time later in the process though, it just depends.
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Post by volleytology on Oct 22, 2014 10:54:47 GMT -5
We aren't talking about just any old recruit who didn't do her homework. We are talking about the #10 recruit in her class. It is reasonable for the #10 recruit to expect to contribute on the court for any program in the country. I would say since she hasn't played at all, she was either overrated or didn't do her homework or both. Congrats to her for her team-first attitude though, definitely commendable
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Post by showmevb on Oct 22, 2014 11:01:12 GMT -5
She's getting a STANFORD education for free and daddy is mad about playing time. The world we live in is really messed up..... Not intended to be a secret. Identity or getting into any specific personal aspect wasn't the intent of the post. Simply felt there was something to be added from the experience. Seemed to fit the thread. Hope it was helpful, but don't have any desire to discuss my daughter's situation. She is happy as a lark and volleyball was never in her career goals. But if it helps her be a great doctor, bang...success. She, and I, have learned tons about life. Life long learner...or hard headed, not sure which but I think we will both be learning for a long time to come. : )
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Post by geddyleeridesagain on Oct 22, 2014 11:10:45 GMT -5
She's getting a STANFORD education for free and daddy is mad about playing time. The world we live in is really messed up..... And today's "Utterly, Completely Missing the Point" winner goes to...
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Post by volleyguy on Oct 22, 2014 11:21:43 GMT -5
She's getting a STANFORD education for free and daddy is mad about playing time. The world we live in is really messed up..... Not intended to be a secret. Identity or getting into any specific personal aspect wasn't the intent of the post. Simply felt there was something to be added from the experience. Seemed to fit the thread. Hope it was helpful, but don't have any desire to discuss my daughter's situation. She is happy as a lark and volleyball was never in her career goals. But if it helps her be a great doctor, bang...success. She, and I, have learned tons about life. Life long learner...or hard headed, not sure which but I think we will both be learning for a long time to come. : ) We can learn so much about people and life on VolleyTalk. A simple post meant to illustrate the topic of the thread elicits varied responses that can teach us so much about people and life. We'll always have the MTC's (Are we talking about Stanford? -- he's the guy who gets everybody killed in all those war movies), the insecure know-it-all (I know who she is. You can't fool me Hey, don't worry, UCLA is a great school too!), or the cynical malcontent who doesn't even bother to read or understand the post ("daddy is mad about playing time"). Ok, so we're not really learning that much, but we can make up for a lot of that by knowing that there are lots of decent people in the world, like you and your daughter.
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Post by sizzlincatfish on Oct 22, 2014 11:56:19 GMT -5
She's getting a STANFORD education for free and daddy is mad about playing time. The world we live in is really messed up..... Congrats for missing everything.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Oct 22, 2014 12:06:44 GMT -5
There was a starting softball pitcher at Stanford last year who transferred to Oklahoma, because two top pitching recruits were coming in and she wanted to compete for a championship. The general response at the Ultimate College Softball Forum was: WHY would she transfer from STANFORD?!?!?!? Softball is for now, but a Stanford degree is for life.
She wasn't the first top Stanford recruit who ended up as a second-string/substitute. Hayley Spelman did as well.
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Post by Wolfgang on Oct 22, 2014 12:07:50 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so caught up in the NAME of the school. In the real world, the school you are associated with matters only for the first 10 minutes. After that, it's all on you to perform and deliver. I've met many dumbasses from Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, etc. The smartest guy I ever met graduated from the University of New Orleans. The next smartest guy was from Iowa State University. Does anyone care what school Steven Spielberg (Long Beach State) graduated from? Or Stevie Nicks (San Jose State), Dan Rather (Sam Houston State), Barack Obama (Occidental/Columbia), Magic Johnson (Michigan State), Dan Marino (Pittsburgh), Michael Phelps (none)?
Also, having attended a NAME school doesn't necessarily mean you got a great education. I went to a name school and took a handful of classes taught by Nobel Prize winners. They were all horrible teachers. To this day, I can't remember anything memorable about those classes or those professors. The best class I ever took was a Numerical Methods class taught by a grad student who had a Thor-like flowing blonde hair, Grizzly Adams-style beard, and who wore faded jeans all the time.
I know there are people out there who care about the NAME of the school. They wear their alma mater on their t-shirt or hat and proudly advertise same with bumper stickers on their BMWs. They've even got school mugs on their desks. I've met many of these types. And then there are people who wear t-shirts or sweatshirts of schools they have no affiliation with. This latter group is very puzzling. I generally feel sorry for them.
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Post by pepperbrooks on Oct 22, 2014 12:46:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so caught up in the NAME of the school. In the real world, the school you are associated with matters only for the first 10 minutes. After that, it's all on you to perform and deliver. I've met many dumbasses from Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, etc. The smartest guy I ever met graduated from the University of New Orleans. The next smartest guy was from Iowa State University. Does anyone care what school Steven Spielberg (Long Beach State) graduated from? Or Stevie Nicks (San Jose State), Dan Rather (Sam Houston State), Barack Obama (Occidental/Columbia), Magic Johnson (Michigan State), Dan Marino (Pittsburgh), Michael Phelps (none)? Also, having attended a NAME school doesn't necessarily mean you got a great education. I went to a name school and took a handful of classes taught by Nobel Prize winners. They were all horrible teachers. To this day, I can't remember anything memorable about those classes or those professors. The best class I ever took was a Numerical Methods class taught by a grad student who had a Thor-like flowing blonde hair, Grizzly Adams-style beard, and who wore faded jeans all the time. I know there are people out there who care about the NAME of the school. They wear their alma mater on their t-shirt or hat and proudly advertise same with bumper stickers on their BMWs. They've even got school mugs on their desks. I've met many of these types. And then there are people who wear t-shirts or sweatshirts of schools they have no affiliation with. This latter group is very puzzling. I generally feel sorry for them. True, you can get a great education anywhere. But being a graduate of a name school opens doors after graduation that many schools never can. The bigger the name, the bigger the doors.
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Post by Wolfgang on Oct 22, 2014 12:55:07 GMT -5
I wouldn't be so caught up in the NAME of the school. In the real world, the school you are associated with matters only for the first 10 minutes. After that, it's all on you to perform and deliver. I've met many dumbasses from Harvard, Yale, Stanford, MIT, etc. The smartest guy I ever met graduated from the University of New Orleans. The next smartest guy was from Iowa State University. Does anyone care what school Steven Spielberg (Long Beach State) graduated from? Or Stevie Nicks (San Jose State), Dan Rather (Sam Houston State), Barack Obama (Occidental/Columbia), Magic Johnson (Michigan State), Dan Marino (Pittsburgh), Michael Phelps (none)? Also, having attended a NAME school doesn't necessarily mean you got a great education. I went to a name school and took a handful of classes taught by Nobel Prize winners. They were all horrible teachers. To this day, I can't remember anything memorable about those classes or those professors. The best class I ever took was a Numerical Methods class taught by a grad student who had a Thor-like flowing blonde hair, Grizzly Adams-style beard, and who wore faded jeans all the time. I know there are people out there who care about the NAME of the school. They wear their alma mater on their t-shirt or hat and proudly advertise same with bumper stickers on their BMWs. They've even got school mugs on their desks. I've met many of these types. And then there are people who wear t-shirts or sweatshirts of schools they have no affiliation with. This latter group is very puzzling. I generally feel sorry for them. True, you can get a great education anywhere. But being a graduate of a name school opens doors after graduation that many schools never can. The bigger the name, the bigger the doors. Generally true. Nowadays, however, more and more employers are looking for particular skillsets that they value in their company/firm. Several years ago when I was involved in hiring employees, we took a guy who graduated from UC Riverside over a guy who went to Northwestern because he was versed in a particular operating system that the latter wasn't. Also, the latter seemed loony. During interviews, I think it's more about the PERSON and the skills they bring to the table, not the NAME of the school. But yes, you're generally right that the NAME of the school opens more doors. Whether you're able to take advantage of those open doors and stay in the room, however, is a different story entirely.
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Post by WahineFan44 on Oct 22, 2014 13:11:08 GMT -5
Has a stanford womens vball player ever transfered to another school? I've never heard of it.
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