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Post by alwayslearning on Oct 25, 2014 10:14:28 GMT -5
So, on that replayed point in the 3rd set, what exactly happened? As best I can reconstruct, the up ref called a lift against Washington and blew the whistle, so the play stopped. But the down ref was positive there was no lift, so they talked, and eventually the up ref called a replay. Is that what happened? It was a key point, which was why the entire UW team protested along with the coaches. There was no lift -- just clean kits on the Husky side. I think the up ref saw the ball come up and assumed it was a lift because it was so close to the net. Credit goes to the down ref for communicating and the up ref for reconsidering. Replay was the right call under the circumstances. Launiere registered a mild protest but seemed to accept the call, as did the rest of the Utes. |
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Post by alwayslearning on Oct 25, 2014 10:18:48 GMT -5
One of these teams, maybe both, are going to lose at least one match before the tournament. I'd hate to be a player or coach on a team undefeated going into the tournament. That seems like a lot of added pressure, especially for a team like UW with three key freshmen. I think a loss would do both teams a little good but depending on in what fashion. I hope its a good match not a sweep and contested sets if it is easy for either team the other could have a very poor showing in the tournament. I dunno. Thinking a loss might be good is probably more revealing of the fears of the respective fan bases than anything that really is useful for the team. Last night's match is a good example of a match where UW could really learn from mistakes in multiple phases of the game. |
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Post by alwayslearning on Oct 25, 2014 10:29:57 GMT -5
JMac after the game:
"The real lesson we talked about is that (event though we) hit 46 percent, the serve and pass is the most critical thing. You can hit high percentage but if you don’t take care of your serve and pass you’re in trouble, I don’t care how you play.”
On a more positive note, the Huskies were very, very good at tooling Utah's block last night. Utah is definitely one of the better blocking teams UW will see, but they were repeatedly frustrated by the likes of Scambray, Vansant, Nelson, and Jones. Scambray is just so savvy at hitting into the block and watching the ball fall 5 feet away from her on the Husky side of the court, out of bounds. UW's other freshman pin hitter, Jones, has also learned to see the block much better. Early in the season, she seemed to hit a lot of balls into the teeth of the block. She rarely seems to get blocked for a point now. Think how good Scambray and Jones will be as they mature and strengthen.
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Post by ay2013 on Oct 25, 2014 11:36:31 GMT -5
So, on that replayed point in the 3rd set, what exactly happened? As best I can reconstruct, the up ref called a lift against Washington and blew the whistle, so the play stopped. But the down ref was positive there was no lift, so they talked, and eventually the up ref called a replay. Is that what happened? It was a key point, which was why the entire UW team protested along with the coaches. There was no lift -- just clean kits on the Husky side. I think the up ref saw the ball come up and assumed it was a lift because it was so close to the net. Credit goes to the down ref for communicating and the up ref for reconsidering. Replay was the right call under the circumstances. Launiere registered a mild protest but seemed to accept the call, as did the rest of the Utes. The call is EXACTLY the problem I have with double and lifts calls. the refs are looking at the ball rather than the hands. Because the ball "looked funny" on the net and actual lifts sometimes look like that, it MUST have been an illegal contact....because the ball "had too much spin", and actual doubles sometimes look like that, it MUST have been an double contact...so they blow their whistle, all the while not looking at the HANDS (which is what they should be doing to determine an illegal contact. |
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Post by alwayslearning on Oct 25, 2014 11:39:45 GMT -5
It was a key point, which was why the entire UW team protested along with the coaches. There was no lift -- just clean kits on the Husky side. I think the up ref saw the ball come up and assumed it was a lift because it was so close to the net. Credit goes to the down ref for communicating and the up ref for reconsidering. Replay was the right call under the circumstances. Launiere registered a mild protest but seemed to accept the call, as did the rest of the Utes. The call is EXACTLY the problem I have with double and lifts calls. the refs are looking at the ball rather than the hands. Because the ball "looked funny" on the net and actual lifts sometimes look like that, it MUST have been an illegal contact....because the ball "had too much spin", and actual doubles sometimes look like that, it MUST have been an double contact...so they blow their whistle, all the while not looking at the HANDS (which is what they should be doing to determine an illegal contact. I agree on your analysis of double contacts -- the ref last night made a high number of double contact calls, most of which were fine, but I got the feeling it was based on the spin of the ball. One call in particular went against Tanner, who admittedly does not always have the cleanest sets, but I thought this one was clean despite some spin. |
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Post by alwayslearning on Oct 25, 2014 11:44:22 GMT -5
I have to add one more observation about last night's match, which is becoming a pet peeve of mine with the Huskies. The Husky serve is a strength of the team and it usually results in a number of overpasses during the course of a match. Last night was no exception. But when that nice fat juicy ball comes over the net, what is UW's first instinct? Well, if it's really close to the net, usually a spike will end the point. But if it's even a little bit off, the Huskies will try to set up a play. I would say half of those plays get screwed up in some way, often a poor pass that pulls the setter off the net. Just kill the overpass! Sybeldon, Wade, Vansant, and company are more than capable of putting a ball down, even when it is a fair bit off the net. It pains me to see a sure point wasted.
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Post by redbeard2008 on Oct 25, 2014 12:11:37 GMT -5
Pac-12 site says it has a Cassie Strickland interview after her career-best six aces tonight, but it's of coach Romar, instead. Hopefully they'll get the right video up. You know, you never see the two of them together in the same place.... (No, I lie. I saw Romar there in the stands at the match, while Cassie was on the floor.) Now GoHuskies.com has linked the video to their story of the match. I clicked on it, hoping to finally get to see the Cassie interview, but, no, just got the same Romar video. Apparently they just linked it, without bothering to look at it. |
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Post by tomclen on Oct 25, 2014 12:40:44 GMT -5
You know, you never see the two of them together in the same place.... (No, I lie. I saw Romar there in the stands at the match, while Cassie was on the floor.) Now GoHuskies.com has linked the video to their story of the match. I clicked on it, hoping to finally get to see the Cassie interview, but, no, just got the same Romar video. Apparently they just linked it, without bothering to look at it. I've clicked on it about a dozen times from last night until just now, hoping to see that interview. And you have to watch a 30-second commercial each time before you get to the video...which isn't the video you want. I've seen the Red Vines commercial 6 times and the commercial for something where the baby in the stroller says, "Is anybody else bothered that the mime is talking?" I should get a life. |
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Post by mikegarrison on Oct 25, 2014 14:27:19 GMT -5
The call is EXACTLY the problem I have with double and lifts calls. the refs are looking at the ball rather than the hands. Because the ball "looked funny" on the net and actual lifts sometimes look like that, it MUST have been an illegal contact....because the ball "had too much spin", and actual doubles sometimes look like that, it MUST have been an double contact...so they blow their whistle, all the while not looking at the HANDS (which is what they should be doing to determine an illegal contact. I agree on your analysis of double contacts -- the ref last night made a high number of double contact calls, most of which were fine, but I got the feeling it was based on the spin of the ball. One call in particular went against Tanner, who admittedly does not always have the cleanest sets, but I thought this one was clean despite some spin. Yeah, I think those calls were all based on spin, no matter that the rulebook clearly says not to base that call on spin. |
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Post by redbeard2008 on Oct 25, 2014 14:36:12 GMT -5
Now GoHuskies.com has linked the video to their story of the match. I clicked on it, hoping to finally get to see the Cassie interview, but, no, just got the same Romar video. Apparently they just linked it, without bothering to look at it. I've clicked on it about a dozen times from last night until just now, hoping to see that interview. And you have to watch a 30-second commercial each time before you get to the video...which isn't the video you want. I've seen the Red Vines commercial 6 times and the commercial for something where the baby in the stroller says, "Is anybody else bothered that the mime is talking?" I should get a life. I emailed the contact link for GoHuskies.com (the Pac-12 site doesn't have one) and they've now got the right video up (although I don't know if the one had anything to do with the other). www.gohuskies.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=30200&id=3497605 |
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