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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 30, 2014 9:16:58 GMT -5
RPI is the reality for the moment--that doesn't mean it's good or right. But, of course, you are free to discuss anything you wish, regardless of its relevancy. I get your logic! if the criminal penalty for stealing a candy bar was death, then a discussion reflecting on whether the death penalty is fair/correct is not relevant because there is a law in place, and the only relevant discussion should be the method of execution! granted, making the NCAA tournament is not a matter of life and death - but close! Why don't you actually compare the full season resumes before whining about selection. Team C would be clearly in at this point, but you've included them as a "bubble" team because they're slumping like hell. They've picked up some really bad losses recently. If they continue to slide, even your valued Massey rating for them will drop. Also, I wouldn't count my chickens on Team A winning out, and Team B isn't "out" but has work left to do (And several opportunities to do it).
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Post by mclvbdad on Oct 30, 2014 9:46:34 GMT -5
I get your logic! if the criminal penalty for stealing a candy bar was death, then a discussion reflecting on whether the death penalty is fair/correct is not relevant because there is a law in place, and the only relevant discussion should be the method of execution! granted, making the NCAA tournament is not a matter of life and death - but close! Why don't you actually compare the full season resumes before whining about selection. Team C would be clearly in at this point, but you've included them as a "bubble" team because they're slumping like hell. They've picked up some really bad losses recently. If they continue to slide, even your valued Massey rating for them will drop. Also, I wouldn't count my chickens on Team A winning out, and Team B isn't "out" but has work left to do (And several opportunities to do it). RPI Futures is projecting Team A picking up 3 losses and still keeping an RPI around 30.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Oct 30, 2014 10:09:01 GMT -5
Why don't you actually compare the full season resumes before whining about selection. Team C would be clearly in at this point, but you've included them as a "bubble" team because they're slumping like hell. They've picked up some really bad losses recently. If they continue to slide, even your valued Massey rating for them will drop. Also, I wouldn't count my chickens on Team A winning out, and Team B isn't "out" but has work left to do (And several opportunities to do it). RPI Futures is projecting Team A picking up 3 losses and still keeping an RPI around 30. With 3 more losses and an RPI around 30 that would the test case for the Committee on use of RPI. No Top 25 wins, 1 Top 50 against a fringe bubble team, 4 losses to not AQ-quality teams. Tulsa had a similar-ish top end profile and was left out at RPI 37 last year. Committee is probably hoping Team A either beats one of the two good teams on their schedule or loses more than 3 so they don't have to deal with this question. Personally, I'd leave them out with 3 more losses, but I have no power.
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Post by BeachbytheBay on Oct 30, 2014 11:28:59 GMT -5
I get your logic! if the criminal penalty for stealing a candy bar was death, then a discussion reflecting on whether the death penalty is fair/correct is not relevant because there is a law in place, and the only relevant discussion should be the method of execution! granted, making the NCAA tournament is not a matter of life and death - but close! Why don't you actually compare the full season resumes before whining about selection. Team C would be clearly in at this point, but you've included them as a "bubble" team because they're slumping like hell. They've picked up some really bad losses recently. If they continue to slide, even your valued Massey rating for them will drop. Also, I wouldn't count my chickens on Team A winning out, and Team B isn't "out" but has work left to do (And several opportunities to do it). sheesh A) I'm not 'whining', I am simply pointing out a comparison and flaws of RPI with evaluation of teams. these are flaws, BTW, that will be just as bad 4 weeks from now as they are today B) I am not including team C because they are slumping, I included them because their Massey & RPI were almost identical and close to the best RPI/Massey of teams A & B. Furthermore, Team C lost their setter 2 weeks ago - possible correlation with losing, too bad for them C) I am not counting any chickens on anything. point is team A is the most super-inflated RPI team out there - they should be by any reasonable definition (not necessarily a NCAA definition) be a bubble team but thanks for your thoughts!!
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