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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 16, 2014 17:23:54 GMT -5
Standings:
(3) Stanford 18-0
(5) Washington 16-2
(13) Arizona 11-7
(12) Oregon 11-7
(20) Colorado 10-8
(14) UCLA 10-8
(24) ASU 8-10
(31) OSU 8-10
(25) USC 7-11
(28) Utah 7-11
(63) Cal 1-17
(55) WSU 1-17
(Nov 17 pablo rankings)
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Head-to-head among favorites [Red means current pablo favors opponent in upcoming match.]
Stanford: (10-0) [1 remaining: @UW]
Washington: (10-0) [1 remaining: Stan]
Oregon: (5-7) [0 remaining]
Arizona: (3-5) [2 remaining: USC, @ASU]
ASU: (2-6) [2 remaining: UCLA, AZ]
UCLA: (2-6) [2 remaining: @ASU, USC]
USC: (0-8) [2 remaining: @AZ, @UCLA]
Losses by these teams to others:
ASU (4): @Utah, @OSU, Colorado, OSU
USC (3): @Utah, Cal, @OSU
Arizona (2): @Colorado, Colorado
UCLA (2): Colorado, @Utah
Washington (2): @Colorado, @Utah
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This week's matches (Pacific times)
Fri:
noon USC@OSU
7pm ASU@WSU, Col@Cal
8pm AZ@UW, UCLA@Ore, Utah@Stan
Sat:
7pm AZ@WSU, UCLA@OSU, Col@Stan
Sun:
11am USC@Ore, Utah@Cal, ASU@UW
Bold is pablo favorite.
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Week 10 schedule:
Travel partners play, plus singletons: Oregon@Mountains, BayArea@Washington, LA@Arizona
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 16, 2014 17:32:18 GMT -5
Well. Clear separation now between Stanford and UW. Also, Arizona has become the latest mole in the whack-a-mole for third place.
First place: Entirely in Stanford's control. UW is the only other team that could get there, but they need Stanford to lose a match to someone else.
Second place: If UW loses the rest and Arizona wins the rest, there would be a 2-way tie. Otherwise this belongs to either UW or Stanford.
Third place through tenth place: Almost anybody could finish anywhere. But for what it's worth, pablo is predicting the gap will continue to open between the teams with the losing records at 7-9 and 6-10 versus the teams with the winning records at 9-7 and 10-6. If so, that means third-sixth would be among Arizona, Oregon, UCLA, and Colorado. Seventh-tenth would be among their travel partners ASU, OSU, USC, and Utah.
Eleventh and twelfth place: Cal and WSU play each other in Pullman. Barring further upsets, that looks to be decisive.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 16, 2014 17:37:31 GMT -5
This is almost a throwback schedule. No Wed or Thurs matches. Everybody plays Friday night (except for that one noon match on a Friday!). The Sat night matches are all 7pm, the Sun morning matches are all 11am.
Then you look at next week and you see matches being played on Wed and Fri (except for one match played Tues).
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 16, 2014 17:48:51 GMT -5
This is almost a throwback schedule. No Wed or Thurs matches. Everybody plays Friday night (except for that one noon match on a Friday!). The Sat night matches are all 7pm, the Sun morning matches are all 11am. Then you look at next week and you see matches being played on Wed and Fri (except for one match played Tues). Oregon's Tuesday match at Utah (after a Fri/Sun with UCLA/USC) just got that much more brutal this weekend. Hopefully the Utes will have run out of steam by then. PAC on PAC violence doing enough to ensure more NCAA tourney bids; but can't get too crazy or else the conference is in danger of losing seeds. Arizona put itself in very good position to lock down that seed. H2H over KState and UCLA might be decisive. Cats need to avoid a Pullman disaster. |
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Post by SaltNPepper on Nov 16, 2014 19:15:38 GMT -5
So what does Colorado have to do to be listed with the "favorites" rather than the "others"? Or the other way around for USC?
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Post by tomclen on Nov 16, 2014 19:36:55 GMT -5
WSU looked very strong at Colorado. Was up 2 sets to 1. Lost 15-12 in the 5th. Suddenly, that UW match in Pullman is seeming a lot tougher than it seemed a few weeks ago.
It's probably to Washington's advantage that the game is the night AFTER Thanksgiving and there will have been an exodus of students.
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Post by rogero1 on Nov 16, 2014 20:27:14 GMT -5
Looks like Pac-12 has a good possibility of getting up to 10 teams in this year. If that happens, at whose expense wool it be? B1G? SEC? Or ACC? It will also depend on how many regular season conference champs get upset in their tourneys.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 16, 2014 20:34:36 GMT -5
So what does Colorado have to do to be listed with the "favorites" rather than the "others"? Or the other way around for USC? I am getting so tired of pointing out that this has been discussed before. Except for some minor reshuffling back at the start, I was tracking these same teams all year long. Deal with it. Or better yet, next year participate in the first week or two and suggest which teams should be listed for 2015. |
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Post by jgrout on Nov 17, 2014 12:41:59 GMT -5
Will new Pablo turn Stanford into a favorite at U-Dub? One would think that only HCA would make U-Dub a favorite... but it might not even do that much. Several U-Dub posters observed that they'd finally been outscored for the first time by Utah, and Pablo is point-driven, so it might call the two matches deuce matches and leave U-Dub more or less where it is.
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Post by tomclen on Nov 17, 2014 13:20:28 GMT -5
Not sure what Pablo will say, but Stanford made a successful Colorado/Utah road trip without a loss and UW lost at both schools. Stanford is undefeated. UW has 2 losses.
If this was a regular Friday or Saturday night match, I might be inclined to give an edge to UW. But it's 5 p.m. on the day before Thanksgiving. Can't imagine many students will be there. And there are plenty of people, like me, that are going to be challenged to make a 5p match on a weekday. I think Stanford has to be favored.
Plus, UW can't look past UA & ASU.
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Post by bigfan on Nov 17, 2014 14:42:36 GMT -5
11/21/14 at Oregon State * Corvallis, Ore. 5:30 p.m. PT Noon on friday? Somebody wrong here! |
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 17, 2014 14:45:36 GMT -5
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 17, 2014 14:46:44 GMT -5
OSU a home basketball match that evening that got pushed really early for PAC 12 Networks.
So then they had to move this one really early to make sure VB didn't go long.
Should play right into USC's hands - they're used to playing in arenas that are about as loud as a mausoleum.
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Post by mikegarrison on Nov 17, 2014 14:48:01 GMT -5
USC schedule still says 5:30. It would be pretty amusing if they showed up 5.5 hours too late for the match.
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Post by bigfan on Nov 17, 2014 14:48:42 GMT -5
I am going off the Southern Cal website schedule. Things have changed. |
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