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Post by madonna on Nov 21, 2014 17:59:39 GMT -5
Hawaii practically has only three dominant volleyball schools, all coincidentally the top three academic schools. Each just have a constant pipeline for student athletes, in both girls and boys volleyball. That would be Kamehameha, Punahou, and Iolani. Heck, Kamehameha and Punahou girls volleyball have been in the state title match every year since around 2001. Kamehameha won 6 in a row once. Punahou boys volleyball is excellent (they finished 1st nationally in 2010), along with Kamehameha (ex: Micah Christenson 2011 championship team) so what I'm saying is, stay in socal for the competition. And I'd like to add that if one wants to enroll into Kamehameha Schools, one must have Hawaiian blood to do so.
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Post by madonna on Nov 21, 2014 18:02:10 GMT -5
Since both Punahou and Mira Costa were mentioned in this thread, I thought I'd post a match between both schools that took place in August in a tournament at Iolani School.
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Post by bayarea on Nov 21, 2014 18:31:54 GMT -5
When the poster asked about West Coast schools, was he thinking THIS far west??!! (West Coast of Oahu, maybe?)
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Post by madonna on Nov 21, 2014 19:12:09 GMT -5
When the poster asked about West Coast schools, was he thinking THIS far west??!! Probably not. But when someone suggested Punahou School and the OP mentioned Mira Costa as being "good academics" and "outstanding volleyball" and was just here in Hawaii, thought I'd post a match between both schools. Who knows, perhaps it may have given the OP another school option, considering Punahou School has an outstanding volleyball program. And as for academics, Punahou School's academics is better than "good".
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Post by GoUCLA on Nov 21, 2014 19:22:05 GMT -5
LB Poly does not have strong academics. Good volleyball program in recent years, though. Long Beach Wilson is stronger academically, with a decent volleyball tradition. Of course, if you're going to stay in the LB Unified, the California Academy of Math & Science is one of the highest ranked schools in the country. At the same time, living in that area means close proximity to clubs like Mizuno Long Beach, which is more probably more important than high school ball for kids with aspirations beyond juniors. You can pretty much just roll down the Central/Southern California coast and find a school with a good combination of academics/volleyball. Dos Pueblos (Goleta), most of the L.A. area/South Bay schools mentioned above, Los Alamitos, Edison, Huntington, Corona del Mar, Mater Dei (private), Newport Harbor, Tesoro, Santa Margarita (private), La Costa Canyon, Torrey Pines, La Jolla High & La Jolla Country Day (private), Francis Parker (private) and so on. Plus, once again, proximity to a number of good clubs. Of course, there is the issue of many, if not most, of the schools mentioned in Southern California being (not coincidently) located in some of the most expensive zip codes in California. I am a product of the PACE program at LB Poly. It trumps any of the academic programs in Long Beach, except for CAMS (but CAMS doesn't count IMO). The reason why Poly's academic scores probably come down is because of the remainder of the large student population. Many of the students who graduate from the PACE program end up at good colleges. I was one of about 45 students who graduated from the PACE program in 2001 who ended up at UCLA. I will admit though that the biggest drawback to LB Poly is its location in Long Beach.
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Post by GoUCLA on Nov 21, 2014 19:23:44 GMT -5
LB Poly and LB Wilson have nearly identical academic scores according usnews high school rankings. Poly's PACE program is one of the top programs in the US according to Caltech. Wilson's distinguished scholars and Poly's CIC are also verygood academic programs. Thanks. I was going to mention the same thing about the PACE program. Could you link me to the Caltech reference?
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Post by dunninla on Nov 21, 2014 20:13:35 GMT -5
I have to repeat the question a little differently -- why do you care AT ALL about High School volleyball? If you're interested in a College Scholarship (maybe you're not but I got that feeling), then playing HS or not is irrelevant. Get a great academic education, and join a solid Club. Your daughter could spend the 15-20 weekly hours she would have used in HS volleyball to do something more relevant... like take AP classes, volunteer in the community, etc.
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Post by tomahawk on Nov 21, 2014 23:03:10 GMT -5
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Post by jcvball22 on Nov 22, 2014 0:01:57 GMT -5
I have to repeat the question a little differently -- why do you care AT ALL about High School volleyball? If you're interested in a College Scholarship (maybe you're not but I got that feeling), then playing HS or not is irrelevant. Get a great academic education, and join a solid Club. Your daughter could spend the 15-20 weekly hours she would have used in HS volleyball to do something more relevant... like take AP classes, volunteer in the community, etc. I am not interested in scholarships. I care about high school volleyball because I want my daughters to have a well rounded high school experience. I care about the quality of the school because most of the colleges I would like my daughters to attend DO NOT offer academic scholarships. Sorry if the OP (which I keep updating) was not clear on that. BTW, they play club now but they are 12U (9 and 11 this year) so we are aware that club trumps HS for college coaches prospecting. This is the key. The quality of their high school academic experience is going to be paramount if they want to attend the highest academic school institution possible. They will want a school that offers a high level of academic rigor, starting early in the high school career. Good volleyball is a bonus. And where there is good HS ball, there are usually connections to really good clubs. These parents are definitely considering the most important things for their children: their education. And wanting them to have balance, but high level options is a really good thing and foresight I wish more parents had.
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Post by bayarea on Nov 22, 2014 11:26:12 GMT -5
Watching the Harvard-Yale match yesterday, I was thinking how many of these girls are from California. Ditto for all the other Ivy League rosters. Harvard has players from Mira Costa (Manhattan Beach), The Bishop's School (La Jolla), Francis Parker (San Diego), Laguna Beach, Branson Prep (Marin County), St. Francis (Mountain View-WCAL). Yale has players from Archbishop Mitty, San Jose - WCAL), Sacred Heart Prep (Atherton), La Costa Canyon x 2, Orange Lutheran, Palos Verdes, La Jolla Country Day, Marymount, Castilleja (private girls school in Palo Alto), Notre Dame Academy (LA).
It isn't necessary to have a good high school team, but it does definitely make the high school experience more enjoyable for a top athlete. Good players don't enjoy playing for stinky teams.
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Post by GoUCLA on Nov 22, 2014 11:48:16 GMT -5
Since we're on the topic of West Coast high schools...
Don't forget to watch Redondo Union vs. Mater Dei tonight in the Division 1AA Finals. It will be televised on Fox Sports Prime Ticket.
Redondo Union has Bedart-Ghani (Texas) and Iosia (Hawaii). Mater Dei has Chang (Stanford?) and Ford (USC?).
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Post by junior1 on Nov 22, 2014 12:59:13 GMT -5
One unique thing to several Orange County California high schools is the 6th period. If I was a young student/athlete, I would've loved to have to a high school where I start my physical education requirement/gym class which can be substituted by being on a sports team. Instead of waiting until after school for practice to begin, you begin practice during the school day usually sometime around 12:30. This allows a student/athlete to have much more available time in any given day, even if they attend what is called a "zero period." Huge advantage in terms of getting home work done, working an extra job and time management. Some of these high schools are also more college in nature, where students can earn the opportunity to leave campus during open times for lunch or because of their course of study.
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Post by GoUCLA on Nov 22, 2014 13:29:50 GMT -5
Since we're on the topic of West Coast high schools... Don't forget to watch Redondo Union vs. Mater Dei tonight in the Division 1AA Finals. It will be televised on Fox Sports Prime Ticket. Redondo Union has Bedart-Ghani (Texas) and Iosia (Hawaii). Mater Dei has Chang (Stanford?) and Ford (USC?). Not to derail my original thread but could you explain how CA's Divisions work? I cannot find this on the internet to figure out what the ranking criteria is. Ranking as far as? If you haven't already looked here: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Interscholastic_Federation
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Post by volleyguy on Nov 22, 2014 13:41:43 GMT -5
Since we're on the topic of West Coast high schools... Don't forget to watch Redondo Union vs. Mater Dei tonight in the Division 1AA Finals. It will be televised on Fox Sports Prime Ticket. Redondo Union has Bedart-Ghani (Texas) and Iosia (Hawaii). Mater Dei has Chang (Stanford?) and Ford (USC?). Not to derail my original thread but could you explain how CA's Divisions work? I cannot find this on the internet to figure out what the ranking criteria is. Division placement is determined by school size/population. Divison 1 - 2,051 OR ABOVE Divison 2 - 1,601 - 2,050 Divison 3 - 1,151 – 1,600 Divison 4 - 500 – 1,150 Divison 5 - 499 & fewer.
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Post by pavbfan on Nov 22, 2014 14:26:10 GMT -5
Palo Alto High School won the Division 1 state championships in 2010 and 2011. The schools in PAUDS have always had outstanding reputations for academics. However, housing costs are one of the highest in the country with $1.5 million getting you a small fixer-upper or tear down and $5+ million for 4,000 sq feet.
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