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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 24, 2014 17:08:32 GMT -5
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 24, 2014 17:14:43 GMT -5
Curious again about Iowa State. How are they going to handle the game they lost that doesn't count for RPI? This game has a particularly good impact for Iowa State - not only do they improve their W/L%, but they get to remove one of their worst w/l% opponents. The difference may not be all that much different than if they counted the match and they won.
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 24, 2014 17:16:58 GMT -5
Why is Iowa State not counting a game?
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 24, 2014 17:24:13 GMT -5
This is the list we've been waiting for.
Thanks to some tourney upsets, straight RPI cut-off would be 44, with San Diego, SMU, Ohio, Santa Clara as last 4 in (assuming USC not eligible)
First four out Utah, Virginia Tech, Pacific, Minnesota
Next four Michigan St., Pitt, Tulsa, Purdue.
Miami (#27) and Lipscomb (#31) have questionable profiles but are more than 10 places within the RPI cutoff - probably in. Because of bad losses, LSU (38) may be in danger. Ohio (44) and SMU (43) are most likely out. We thought Utah (46) was safe, but they're in territory where they could need a win this weekend.
Minnesota (49) is probably in with a win over Ohio St. MSU (50) and Purdue (54) may not be close enough no matter who wins their match. Everybody is rooting for Seton Hall and USC to go down.
For seeding:
Huge that Colorado and USC both stayed Top 25 for this week and Marquette and Alabama are out of it. That gives UCLA (RPI 17) 4 T25 wins, with a chance for 5 this weekend.
Compare to 1 a piece for Kentucky (RPI 15) and Colorado St. (RPI 16) - methinks the Bruins will get a seed over one of them if they win out; and a good week for KState could knock both out.
Nebraska only has 1 T25 win, and Iowa St. has too many bad losses, but they are very high in RPI (11/12) so they both could sneak away with a seed.
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 24, 2014 17:24:46 GMT -5
Why is Iowa State not counting a game? The worst part is, the game that's not counted is a LOSS to Texas Tech!!!! They protested a call down 4-9 in a 5th set they lost... |
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 24, 2014 17:25:12 GMT -5
Why is Iowa State not counting a game? Don't know the details, but remember something from another thread. Their 5 set loss to Texas Tech several weeks ago may have been protested (?) so the game is currently not being counted in the RPI. They have 1 less loss in this RPI than in the published confrerence standings. |
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Post by fetchin on Nov 24, 2014 17:36:48 GMT -5
This is the list we've been waiting for. Thanks to some tourney upsets, straight RPI cut-off would be 44, with San Diego, SMU, Ohio, Santa Clara as last 4 in (assuming USC not eligible) First four out Utah, Virginia Tech, Pacific, Minnesota Next four Michigan St., Pitt, Tulsa, Purdue. Miami (#27) and Lipscomb (#31) have questionable profiles but are more than 10 places within the RPI cutoff - probably in. Ohio and SMU are most likely also in danger. We thought Utah was safe, but looks like they need a win this weekend. Minnesota (49) is probably in with a win over Ohio St. MSU (50) and Purdue (54) may not be close enough no matter who wins their match. Everybody is rooting for Seton Hall and USC to go down. For seeding: Huge that Colorado and USC both stayed Top 25 for this week and Marquette and Alabama are out of it. That gives UCLA 4 T25 wins, with a chance for 5 this weekend. Compare to 1 a piece for Kentucky (RPI 15) and Colorado St. (RPI 16) - methinks the Bruins will get a seed over one of them, a good week for KState could knock both out. Nebraska only has 1 T25 win, and Iowa St. has too many bad losses, but they are very high in RPI (11/12) so I think they'll sneak away with a seed. You think Utah is out, really? I say they get in over Lipscomb and San Diego. |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 24, 2014 17:41:06 GMT -5
This is the list we've been waiting for. Thanks to some tourney upsets, straight RPI cut-off would be 44, with San Diego, SMU, Ohio, Santa Clara as last 4 in (assuming USC not eligible) First four out Utah, Virginia Tech, Pacific, Minnesota Next four Michigan St., Pitt, Tulsa, Purdue. Miami (#27) and Lipscomb (#31) have questionable profiles but are more than 10 places within the RPI cutoff - probably in. Ohio and SMU are most likely also in danger. We thought Utah was safe, but looks like they need a win this weekend. Minnesota (49) is probably in with a win over Ohio St. MSU (50) and Purdue (54) may not be close enough no matter who wins their match. Everybody is rooting for Seton Hall and USC to go down. For seeding: Huge that Colorado and USC both stayed Top 25 for this week and Marquette and Alabama are out of it. That gives UCLA 4 T25 wins, with a chance for 5 this weekend. Compare to 1 a piece for Kentucky (RPI 15) and Colorado St. (RPI 16) - methinks the Bruins will get a seed over one of them, a good week for KState could knock both out. Nebraska only has 1 T25 win, and Iowa St. has too many bad losses, but they are very high in RPI (11/12) so I think they'll sneak away with a seed. You think Utah is out, really? I say they get in over Lipscomb and San Diego. I don't think they're out. They should surely get in over Lipscomb (H2H road win, after all) but Lipscomb's #31 RPI might be high enough they won't even be in the bubble discussion. Utah has the best wins of all the teams near them, so that might carry them through. I just think it could be rather uncomfortable being below the RPI cut-off line and losing your last two matches. |
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Post by ay2013 on Nov 24, 2014 17:53:15 GMT -5
Why is Iowa State not counting a game? The worst part is, the game that's not counted is a LOSS to Texas Tech!!!! They protested a call down 4-9 in a 5th set they lost... well that doesn't seem very fair. bad calls happen all the time, teams deal with it, especially if a team is down 9-4 in the 5th set. One call should not nullify the entire match. Maybe if Christy Johnson Lynch spent as much time preparing her players to play Texas Tech as she did fighting to get the loss removed, perhaps Iowa State wouldn't have lost in the first place. Vansant went 0 kills and 5 errors in the 5th set against Colorado. This is just so unusual that something bad must have happened. I demand that the Colorado match be removed from UW's record. |
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Post by fetchin on Nov 24, 2014 17:59:18 GMT -5
Iowa St , hosting would be a joke. They aint a top 16 team.
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Post by FOBRA on Nov 24, 2014 18:19:03 GMT -5
I'm not really sure I understand how Iowa State and Kansas are so high, but I guess this is normally where I blame RPI?
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Post by hegotgame on Nov 24, 2014 19:00:18 GMT -5
The worst part is, the game that's not counted is a LOSS to Texas Tech!!!! They protested a call down 4-9 in a 5th set they lost... well that doesn't seem very fair. bad calls happen all the time, teams deal with it, especially if a team is down 9-4 in the 5th set. One call should not nullify the entire match. Maybe if Christy Johnson Lynch spent as much time preparing her players to play Texas Tech as she did fighting to get the loss removed, perhaps Iowa State wouldn't have lost in the first place. Vansant went 0 kills and 5 errors in the 5th set against Colorado. This is just so unusual that something bad must have happened. I demand that the Colorado match be removed from UW's record. So we get rid of coach protests? |
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Post by usvballfan on Nov 24, 2014 19:17:27 GMT -5
Will the NCAA RPI adjust after this week's games. Or are these numbers pretty much set in stone because some of the games will be played as late as Saturday (day before selection show)?
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 24, 2014 19:23:53 GMT -5
Will the NCAA RPI adjust after this week's games. Or are these numbers pretty much set in stone because some of the games will be played as late as Saturday (day before selection show)? Yes |
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 24, 2014 19:28:17 GMT -5
Will the NCAA RPI adjust after this week's games. Or are these numbers pretty much set in stone because some of the games will be played as late as Saturday (day before selection show)? They'll re-run it, but the Committee isn't going to wait for the new numbers before starting work. They'll still pay attention but they won't necessarily wait for the RPI to be re-run to make adjustments based on this week's results. |
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