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Post by bkedane on Nov 28, 2014 21:37:48 GMT -5
Where I am unsure is the case of: Southern Methodist. They are in the RPI range - but is the win over Oklahoma good enough? And that leads me to the next question: Virginia Tech - Solid resume and great finish. But is the win against Duke good enough? Purdue - Is the RPI truly going to keep them out? Ohio - Is their RPI going to keep them in? I think the four teams in right before them, should be in, based on NCAA-principles and historic predictions. Didn't Virginia Tech also beat Illinois?
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 28, 2014 21:45:04 GMT -5
Hawai'i's RPI will definitely take a hit after this weekend. They may be more on the bubble than I or other Wahine fans would be willing to admit. The Committee hasn't always been kind to Hawai'i, it wouldn't surprise me to see them left out of the tournament.
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Post by n00b on Nov 28, 2014 21:45:31 GMT -5
Didn't Virginia Tech also beat Illinois? Yes they did. A day after losing to Belmont.
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Post by n00b on Nov 28, 2014 21:46:42 GMT -5
Hawai'i's RPI will definitely take a hit after this weekend. They may be more on the bubble than I or other Wahine fans would be willing to admit. The Committee hasn't always been kind to Hawai'i, it wouldn't surprise me to see them left out of the tournament. Their projected RPI is 35. That should be ok. They absolutely can't afford a slip up against Riverside or Davis though.
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Post by Barefoot In Kailua on Nov 28, 2014 21:49:35 GMT -5
Hawai'i's RPI will definitely take a hit after this weekend. They may be more on the bubble than I or other Wahine fans would be willing to admit. The Committee hasn't always been kind to Hawai'i, it wouldn't surprise me to see them left out of the tournament. Their projected RPI is 35. That should be ok. They absolutely can't afford a slip up against Riverside or Davis though. They won't lose but there is reason for Wahine fans to be concerned.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 28, 2014 22:01:02 GMT -5
Hawai'i's RPI will definitely take a hit after this weekend. They may be more on the bubble than I or other Wahine fans would be willing to admit. The Committee hasn't always been kind to Hawai'i, it wouldn't surprise me to see them left out of the tournament. Their projected RPI is 35. That should be ok. They absolutely can't afford a slip up against Riverside or Davis though. I remember Northridge finished with an RPI of 39 or 40 last year. They got in with just one top-50 win, over Top-15 hawaii. But the bubble was weaker. Is SMU a tournament team?
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Post by elevationvb on Nov 28, 2014 22:04:13 GMT -5
Their projected RPI is 35. That should be ok. They absolutely can't afford a slip up against Riverside or Davis though. I remember Northridge finished with an RPI of 39 or 40 last year. They got in with just one top-50 win, over Top-15 hawaii. But the bubble was weaker. Is SMU a tournament team? West Coast Bias?
I think it has clouded your thinking process towards SMU from your first bracketology thread. That's my impression from reading your posts. Check it out.
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Post by kwyjibo13 on Nov 28, 2014 22:09:27 GMT -5
TrojanSC, you are forgetting a KEY stat that the NCAA Selection Committee loves when it comes to UALR... 23-game winning streak. If they lose tomorrow, it is absolutely disgraceful to leave out a team who won 23-of-24 matches to end the regular season/tournament in a pretty good RPI conference...
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Post by c4ndlelight on Nov 28, 2014 22:09:37 GMT -5
I remember Northridge finished with an RPI of 39 or 40 last year. They got in with just one top-50 win, over Top-15 hawaii. But the bubble was weaker. Is SMU a tournament team? West Coast Bias?
I think it has clouded your thinking process towards SMU from your first bracketology thread. That's my impression from reading your posts. Check it out.SMU has 1 Top 50 win, 4 sub-50 (incl. 1 sub-100) losses. Nope, nope, nope.
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Post by bluepenquin on Nov 28, 2014 22:12:48 GMT -5
Here is where I have the projected top 20 RPI before adjustments.
1. Stanford .7124 2. Texas .7029 3. Florida State .6932 4. Washington .6829 5. North Carolina .6773 6. Wisconsin .6768 7. Florida .6537 8. Penn State .6467 9. Illinois .6440 10. Colorado State .6438 11. Nebraska .6374 12. Oregon .6366 13. Kansas .6356 14. Kentucky .6328 15. BYU .6307 16. Iowa State .6292 17. Arizona .6279 18. UCLA .6211 19. Texas A&M .6200 20. Kansas State .6198
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Post by trojansc on Nov 28, 2014 22:14:46 GMT -5
I remember Northridge finished with an RPI of 39 or 40 last year. They got in with just one top-50 win, over Top-15 hawaii. But the bubble was weaker. Is SMU a tournament team? West Coast Bias?
I think it has clouded your thinking process towards SMU from your first bracketology thread. That's my impression from reading your posts. Check it out.No, my process is seeing that SMU only beat one top 50 team, while Pacific, Seton Hall, SCU, San Diego, Purdue, CSUN all have at least FOUR. Most other bubble teams have two.. I'd rather take SMU over LSU from an eye judgment. But to the committee, i think they barely take LSU . Because LSU has two top 25 wins. Maybe you have a Texas bias moreso than my suggested west coast bias. Lipscomb has two top 50 wins and one is better than SMU's 1. All i'm reading is what's on paper, you've made two posts about west coast bias without any factual evidence of why SMU should be in over a certain opponent. The only reason why i see SMU as potentially in is because of the RPI and late season finish. But they do have a bad loss.
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Post by trojansc on Nov 28, 2014 22:16:26 GMT -5
TrojanSC, you are forgetting a KEY stat that the NCAA Selection Committee loves when it comes to UALR... 23-game winning streak. If they lose tomorrow, it is absolutely disgraceful to leave out a team who won 23-of-24 matches to end the regular season/tournament in a pretty good RPI conference... I watched UALR twice three times this season. Against USC, and the past two days. They were no pushover against SC and they were machine like past two days. I don't expect them to lose, But they only have one top 50 win which concerns me. I really hope they win tomorrow.
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Post by elevationvb on Nov 28, 2014 22:22:03 GMT -5
West Coast Bias?
I think it has clouded your thinking process towards SMU from your first bracketology thread. That's my impression from reading your posts. Check it out. No, my process is seeing that SMU only beat one top 50 team, while Pacific, Seton Hall, SCU, San Diego, Purdue, CSUN all have at least FOUR. Most other bubble teams have two.. I'd rather take SMU over LSU from an eye judgment. But to the committee, i think they barely take LSU . Because LSU has two top 25 wins. Maybe you have a Texas bias moreso than my suggested west coast bias. Lipscomb has two top 50 wins and one is better than SMU's 1. All i'm reading is what's on paper, you've made two posts about west coast bias without any factual evidence of why SMU should be in over a certain opponent. The only reason why i see SMU as potentially in is because of the RPI and late season finish. But they do have a bad loss. Like I wrote, just an impression from what I read.
For example, you seem to overlook some of the losses of the teams you mentioned.
And yes, I do have a bias towards SMU based on some of our local HS / Austin Jr. club players on their current / past teams.
And I would love to see them come to Austin to beat A&M before losing to Texas!
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Post by elevationvb on Nov 28, 2014 22:25:39 GMT -5
West Coast Bias?
I think it has clouded your thinking process towards SMU from your first bracketology thread. That's my impression from reading your posts. Check it out. No, my process is seeing that SMU only beat one top 50 team, while Pacific, Seton Hall, SCU, San Diego, Purdue, CSUN all have at least FOUR. Most other bubble teams have two.. I'd rather take SMU over LSU from an eye judgment. But to the committee, i think they barely take LSU . Because LSU has two top 25 wins. Maybe you have a Texas bias moreso than my suggested west coast bias. Lipscomb has two top 50 wins and one is better than SMU's 1. All i'm reading is what's on paper, you've made two posts about west coast bias without any factual evidence of why SMU should be in over a certain opponent. The only reason why i see SMU as potentially in is because of the RPI and late season finish. But they do have a bad loss. Oh come on. Their bad loss was the first match of the season against San Francisco. You are basically saying the season was over from day 1. That's silly.
I think it's reasonable to say that the Committee would look at the final 10 or 11 matches than the first match in August???
Also, the SF of that match is not the same SF as the season progressed.
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Post by kwyjibo13 on Nov 28, 2014 22:26:06 GMT -5
I am here at the tournament. Just played flat against South Alabama after the first set and had 10 service errors. They were fantastic against Arlington. If it was the old way of scoring, UTA had eight points in the match, including 0 in the first. No excuse, but like all but three of the girls were sick at the Oklahoma tournament. They only have one five set match all season (had three SBC matches left. South Alabama was senior day and at Arkansas State was rivalry game. Georgia Southern was fighting for their tournament lives and UALR had little to play for).
I believe the South Rankings this week had UALR ahead of Lipscomb, so there is that. Lipscomb's win at Kansas is better than UALR's win against Miami, but when you factor in the bad losses for Lipscomb and none for UALR, plus LSU has some real head scratcher of losses, I think UALR gets in.
I am more of a basketball guy, but the only time they talk about a team like UALR being on the bubble, it is because the conference is bad. The Sun Belt was not, especially when you consider a true home and home with 11 teams AND a conference tournament (and a conference that goes from Boone, N.C., to Atlanta, to Southern Georgia, to the mobile area, to Louisiana and Arkansas and finally the heart of Texas). Plus at the end of the day, the eye test.
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