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Post by hebrooks87 on Nov 25, 2014 18:06:36 GMT -5
There are pretty strict standards to what is protestable and what is not. Moreover, there are multiple things that have to go wrong for this to happen. When the coach first protested, the officials should have pulled out the rule book to cite their call. How the officials can STILL have gotten the call wrong is a monumental failure by the officiating crew. That is why you never see this happen, because Division I - caliber officials should never screw up this bad. I second the request for more details on the call... R2 same one who had the Nebraska-OU match 3 or 4 years ago where the illegal pursuit took place and was a big deal, but Cook didn't protest (instead raised a stink after the match. Would have one that protest easily.) I had the same memory. It happened at the court change in set 5, but I can't imagine what they screwed up and how between scorer and the R2, they didn't get it corrected immediately.
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Post by nakedcrayon on Nov 25, 2014 18:12:23 GMT -5
I have no idea what happened however we had a delay error last year at TAMU because during the change over two girls went to sub zone and switched without referee notification or whistle. Didn't get caught until after two points were played because no one knew of the switch. I know this year the officials in the SEC wait until after the media time out/ regular time out to make the switch. Same applies to switching courts in 5th set. They have held the sub or told them to wait until changeover is completed
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Post by spikerthemovie on Nov 25, 2014 18:23:34 GMT -5
Isn't all the talk about the supposedly huge RPI ramifications for ISU overstated? At this point in the season, in-conference RPIs don't shift all that much, do they?
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Post by volleylover26 on Nov 25, 2014 18:27:00 GMT -5
I tried to find the video, but for some reason only the postgame interviews are in the On Demand section of College Sports Live. The actual match isn't there.
EDIT--per the Athletic Dept tweets, the match wasn't broadcast as scheduled due to the start time of the football game that day.
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Post by Not Me on Nov 25, 2014 18:35:18 GMT -5
What would happen if any of the players are injured for the makeup?
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Post by isuchip on Nov 25, 2014 18:43:28 GMT -5
Part of this whole fiasco was that in addition to Tech being awarded a point, a point was ALSO deducted from Iowa State. So instead of 8-5, the set was restarted at 9-4 after the crossover. The error (misapplication of a rule) incorrectly resulted in Iowa State being down by 5 instead of down by 3. That's a big swing, especially in the fifth set.
And yes, it will be played in an empty gym. No fans, band, cheerleaders, or even PA announcer. Just teams, officials, and necessary game operations personnel. The rotations and lineups will be the same as they were at the point of interruption -- just like a resumed baseball game.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 18:55:58 GMT -5
What would happen if any of the players are injured for the makeup? You sub. I don't see how there's any issue with who is playing. Plenty of subs in a 5th game.
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Post by cyclonepower on Nov 25, 2014 18:55:59 GMT -5
Isn't all the talk about the supposedly huge RPI ramifications for ISU overstated? At this point in the season, in-conference RPIs don't shift all that much, do they? Yes, but if ISU's RPI is around 12 or even higher, it is a lot tougher to not give them a seed than if they are 15 or even 16. That is really important for the Cyclones because they have been good at home this year (9-3, only losses to Stanford, Florida State & Texas), but have been poor on the road (6-7 outside of Ames). While anything can happen in any match, the fact is ISU has beaten teams like K-State, Kansas and Oklahoma at home, but have road losses to the likes of TCU, Baylor and Tech (maybe). If ISU has to go on the road for first & second rounds, the path back home for their regional will be a lot more challenging than if they could host 1st & 2nd.* *That's not even getting into the whole "but ISU is not one of the 16 best teams in the country!" thing. Don't blame the Cyclones, blame the system (and their #2 strength of schedule ranking).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2014 18:57:49 GMT -5
Was no one there? Isn't there an ISU fan who can shed some light on what the problem was?
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Post by nakedcrayon on Nov 25, 2014 19:14:02 GMT -5
It was in Lubbock...of course no one was there
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Post by FreeBall on Nov 25, 2014 19:14:56 GMT -5
Well, it was played at Texas Tech. ;-)
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Post by cyclonepower on Nov 25, 2014 19:16:26 GMT -5
Was no one there? Isn't there an ISU fan who can shed some light on what the problem was? It was at 10 AM in Lubbock. "If a tree falls in the woods ..." But seriously, I do know someone who was there and I have been trying to get a hold of him to see what he knows.
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Post by Pirate VB Fan on Nov 25, 2014 19:22:29 GMT -5
Was no one there? Isn't there an ISU fan who can shed some light on what the problem was? I bet they did not bother to explain it to the masses, so there were just a lot of people going "Hey, wait what just happened? We got a point somehow! Great!" (after all it was in Lubbock, why should they care how?)
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Post by hebrooks87 on Nov 25, 2014 21:05:35 GMT -5
Was no one there? Isn't there an ISU fan who can shed some light on what the problem was? I bet they did not bother to explain it to the masses, so there were just a lot of people going "Hey, wait what just happened? We got a point somehow! Great!" (after all it was in Lubbock, why should they care how?) There's also the problem that it's something down in the weeds of the rulebook that most fans (and coaches) and, apparently, some referees, don't know. If the rule was misapplied, it might even be confusing to someone who knows the rules because you might be trying to interpret what possibly could have happened that led to the penalty. If it was the wrong penalty applied for a situation, then a ref in the stands who was watching what happened might catch, but if you weren't looking in the right place, you might not.
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Post by hebrooks87 on Nov 25, 2014 21:13:13 GMT -5
Isn't all the talk about the supposedly huge RPI ramifications for ISU overstated? At this point in the season, in-conference RPIs don't shift all that much, do they? But whether it's a win or a loss for Iowa State matters a lot in the RPI. Keeping the second two parts of RPI the same as they are now, the difference in the winning percentage could be worth 4 places in RPI.
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